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First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth?
#14467711 - 05/17/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello everyone... I am a first time grower and need some advice. I purchased a kit from CGK and got spores named "Thai tanic," which I ordered from a vendor, but apparently came from Ralphster's... I inoculated exactly one week ago and I don't have the white puffy clouds of mycelium that everyone is talking about. There is no sign of contamination, and there does appear to be some faint white areas, so I wanted to post here, with a picture, to hopefully get some help and encouragement from the experts here. It's only been a week but I would appreciate any advice you guys have to offer!
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
#14467733 - 05/17/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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give it another 4-5 days and you should be able to tell for sure
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14467792 - 05/17/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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But are you able to see the white spots that I am referring to? Will this generally turn into the white fluffy mycelium? My best friend doesn't have much faith in me that I can do this on my own so I'm really trying to make sure things go well...
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
#14467872 - 05/17/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's too hard to tell right now and with that picture, it's too hazy.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: Mushaboom]
#14467992 - 05/17/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know your anxious and want to know for sure, but you can't know for sure until it's had a chance to grow some more. Trust me, you'll learn patience in the field of mycology!
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14468017 - 05/17/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: I know your anxious and want to know for sure, but you can't know for sure until it's had a chance to grow some more. Trust me, you'll learn patience in the field of mycology!
Smoke a few bowls
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Exactly. Be patient. You know in a couple of days.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: MushroomPalace]
#14468052 - 05/17/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So is it a misnomer that people get the white puffy mycelium after only a few days?
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: Mushaboom]
#14468101 - 05/17/11 02:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did you pressure cook your jars? If so, then after the PC period did you wait for the jars to cool down for 24 hours, before inoculating? The cooling down period, after being PC'd, seems to be used to decrease the probability or chance of killing the spores, due to to high of a temperature, apparently, which have been inoculated into the substrate. I usually see signs of mycelium growth within 2-4 days after inoculating. Give it a few days, as suggested already.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: Ajm]
#14468126 - 05/17/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I actually didn't make the jars myself. I purchased them from Cali Grow Kits where they send them to you ready for inoculation. So I put the spores in exactly one week ago today... I have noticed that the aquarium heater I was using for incubation wasn't keeping the temperature very warm... So I think I've corrected this problem using a heating pad... So I'm hoping this will help. I just really hope that this works!
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
#14468149 - 05/17/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's normal if it takes longer. As a beginner you make some mistakes which result in slower germination. I waited 10 days with my first growth before I saw mycelium
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: MushroomPalace]
#14468219 - 05/17/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The jar that you show in your first post of this thread appears to be a 1 pint jar. According to the CGK, their "ultra substrate jars" are 1/2 pint size. Did you take two of your 1/2 jars, which supposedly you bought from CGK, and put them in a pint jar of your own?
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: Ajm]
#14468241 - 05/17/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ajm said: The jar that you show in your first post of this thread appears to be a 1 pint jar. According to the CGK, their "ultra substrate jars" are 1/2 pint size. Did you take two of your 1/2 jars, which supposedly you bought from CGK, and put them in a pint jar of your own?
Without something for size reference in the pic, you can't tell whether it's 1/2 pint or full pint
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
#14468252 - 05/17/11 02:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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firsttimearound said: I actually didn't make the jars myself. I purchased them from Cali Grow Kits where they send them to you ready for inoculation. So I put the spores in exactly one week ago today... I have noticed that the aquarium heater I was using for incubation wasn't keeping the temperature very warm... So I think I've corrected this problem using a heating pad... So I'm hoping this will help. I just really hope that this works!
Just a quick tip: Heat the room, not just one spot where you're growing. If this isn't possible, than buy a new aquarium heater. Heating pads tend to fluctuate a lot. This isn't too good for mycelium formation.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: MushroomPalace]
#14468263 - 05/17/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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firsttimearound said: I actually didn't make the jars myself. I purchased them from Cali Grow Kits where they send them to you ready for inoculation. So I put the spores in exactly one week ago today... I have noticed that the aquarium heater I was using for incubation wasn't keeping the temperature very warm... So I think I've corrected this problem using a heating pad... So I'm hoping this will help. I just really hope that this works!
Just a quick tip: Heat the room, not just one spot where you're growing. If this isn't possible, than buy a new aquarium heater. Heating pads tend to fluctuate a lot. This isn't too good for mycelium formation.
Or just chill out from worrying about temps... I've fruited in 60-65 degree temps and colonized jars in 50-60 degree temps... (cubes)
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14468270 - 05/17/11 02:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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MushroomPalace said:
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firsttimearound said: I actually didn't make the jars myself. I purchased them from Cali Grow Kits where they send them to you ready for inoculation. So I put the spores in exactly one week ago today... I have noticed that the aquarium heater I was using for incubation wasn't keeping the temperature very warm... So I think I've corrected this problem using a heating pad... So I'm hoping this will help. I just really hope that this works!
Just a quick tip: Heat the room, not just one spot where you're growing. If this isn't possible, than buy a new aquarium heater. Heating pads tend to fluctuate a lot. This isn't too good for mycelium formation.
Or just chill out from worrying about temps... I've fruited in 60-65 degree temps and colonized jars in 50-60 degree temps... (cubes)
I know that it's possible, it just runs slower at low temps. I know a lot of growers do it. I'm still preferring higher temperatures. Everybody has their own methods.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: MushroomPalace]
#14468280 - 05/17/11 02:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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true, Just saying heat pads and worrying about raising temps can lead to an increase in contams. The only real way i've seen a positive method of raising temps was when I put a very small space heater in my basement grow room that had a sensor to turn off at a certain temp.
Never got above 75 in that room...
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14468292 - 05/17/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: true, Just saying heat pads and worrying about raising temps can lead to an increase in contams. The only real way i've seen a positive method of raising temps was when I put a very small space heater in my basement grow room that had a sensor to turn off at a certain temp.
Never got above 75 in that room...
Like I said, heating the room is the best thing to do
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14468331 - 05/17/11 03:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ajm said: The jar that you show in your first post of this thread appears to be a 1 pint jar. According to the CGK, their "ultra substrate jars" are 1/2 pint size. Did you take two of your 1/2 jars, which supposedly you bought from CGK, and put them in a pint jar of your own?
Without something for size reference in the pic, you can't tell whether it's 1/2 pint or full pint
You, supposedly, bought a mushroom kit from caligrowkits, which as I stated before, according to their website their "ultra substrate jars" are 1/2 pint size. Therefore, you are implying that it is a 1/2 pint jar, right? I'm saying it appears to be a pint jar. I was wondering if you took two 1/2 pint jars from the CGK and put them into a 1 pint jar of your own. The point I'm making is that if you did, in fact, do this, then to me it seems like that process would make your substrate susceptible to contamination, therefore making your mycelium growth progess move along more slowly compared to just leaving the substrate in the jar after PC'ing. Slappyhappypill I though you were the guy , firtimerhyme, whatever his name is responded. My mistake.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: Ajm]
#14468398 - 05/17/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If he did that, then the cake is for sure contaminated, and would have shown contams within the first 4-7 days i'm sure.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14468652 - 05/17/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: If he did that, then the cake is for sure contaminated, and would have shown contams within the first 4-7 days i'm sure.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: MushroomPalace]
#14468733 - 05/17/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mushroom Palace or anyone, is the jar, that appears in the picture of the first post, a 1 pint or a 1/2 pint? And how do you come to that conclusion? I have no fing idea ha
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: Ajm]
#14468838 - 05/17/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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there is no way to tell from that pic, nothing there for size reference.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14468935 - 05/17/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, it is the 1/2 pint jar... I never opened the containers... I just used the drilled out holes on the top to squirt the spores into... So they are just as they came and I haven't mixed anything or even touched the soil or the vermiculite...
So... From what everyone seems to be saying is that it doesn't show any signs of contamination, which is good... And I should just be more patient and the mycelium should show up... Does that sound about right?
Oh... And one quick thing on a side note... I live in AZ where it's really warm, so the air conditioning is always on... But I do have a spare bedroom and I put the incubator in the empty closet of the spare room...
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
#14468966 - 05/17/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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firsttimearound said: No, it is the 1/2 pint jar... I never opened the containers... I just used the drilled out holes on the top to squirt the spores into... So they are just as they came and I haven't mixed anything or even touched the soil or the vermiculite...
So... From what everyone seems to be saying is that it doesn't show any signs of contamination, which is good... And I should just be more patient and the mycelium should show up... Does that sound about right?
Oh... And one quick thing on a side note... I live in AZ where it's really warm, so the air conditioning is always on... But I do have a spare bedroom and I put the incubator in the empty closet of the spare room...
Ditch the incubator, I've fruited in 60-65 degree weather during the winter when my heat wasn't working (MN), and colonized in 50-55 degree temps. Incubators are more of a waist of money. Higher temps will increase your chance for contams
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14469105 - 05/17/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have some PF Albino that I have been waiting for them to colonize for 2 months now. Good News is that 1 of them has finally colonized 100% today. the other 2 are at approx. 75-80%. Wait Grasshopper & it will come to you. In the mean time start another batch so that you can continue to harvest without a waiting period. Good Luck
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14469634 - 05/17/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Really? Just take them out of the incubator completely? Why does every place suggest you use one if you dont really need it?
And yeah, I was thinking about starting another batch but I don't have any more jars and don't trust myself to make my own... Lol
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
#14469681 - 05/17/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's not tough to make your own jars, 1 cup brown rice flour, 1 cup water, 2 cups vermaculite steamed for 90 mins in a pot with 4 holes in the lid covered by tinfoil.
I started with an incubator, and ended up getting rid of it as I had better results in colder temps.
Higher temps increase contam rates and is an old way of growing. They used to say 80-84 degrees is optimal, over the years cultivators have realized that 70-75 degrees is perfect!
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14469736 - 05/17/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well my house is about 70 to 75 naturally when I have the air conditioning on... It wouldn't be bad or harmful to the jars to take them out of the incubator...
And yeah, I would certainly attempt to make my own jars... But my best friend (who had a friend that he helped grow before) scares the piss outta me by saying that if I do something wrong, I can make mushrooms that are deadly... Which I'm not sure is true or not but it definitely has me worried. Lol
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
#14469847 - 05/17/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You wont know til u try. If it doesn't look good, post a pick & someone will let you know. GO FOR IT!!! Good Luck!
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: mabachko]
#14470033 - 05/17/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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it's mainly dangerous if the fruits are rotten, if they grow and you keep fanning, you're fine, don't worry about it.
As for taking your jars out of the incubator, do it. The climate change wont hurt them, they'll be fine, just keep the jars right side up and place them on a shelf or on top of your fridge or something
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
#14470459 - 05/17/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah take them out of the incubator. Incubators are only for people who grow at areas where temperatures are so low that they HAVE to use an incubator. Like me. In winter temperatures can drop to 45°F - 50°F. At that point I use an incubator. For the rest of the year I just put my jars at room temperature.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: MushroomPalace]
#14471072 - 05/18/11 12:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Q: When you innocculated(sp?) the jars (which I believe to be 1/2 pint standard mouth jars), did you do so against the glass or straight down into the substrate?
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: HorizonSpawn]
#14471266 - 05/18/11 01:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I tried to do it against the glass, but a few days later, I put more syringe spores directly against the glass. I figured it might be wasteful, but at least I'll know that I did it right the second time...
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
#14471693 - 05/18/11 03:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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firsttimearound said: Well my house is about 70 to 75 naturally when I have the air conditioning on... It wouldn't be bad or harmful to the jars to take them out of the incubator...
And yeah, I would certainly attempt to make my own jars... But my best friend (who had a friend that he helped grow before) scares the piss outta me by saying that if I do something wrong, I can make mushrooms that are deadly... Which I'm not sure is true or not but it definitely has me worried. Lol
um yea you can grow molds that will make you sick, if you have unsterile conditions during inoculation, but there are ways to safely throwing them away.
do some reading around here and in the files. use the search button, go through the mushroom info button. just read everything!
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: ic3.qu33n]
#14471730 - 05/18/11 04:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why is there a two page thread about one uncolonized BRF jar that isn't even in the right kind of jar?
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14471755 - 05/18/11 04:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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3n1gm4 said: Why is there a two page thread about one uncolonized BRF jar that isn't even in the right kind of jar?
It is in the right kind of jar. It's a kit he bought. And there's two pages because we're trying to help this guy with all his questions.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: MushroomPalace]
#14471774 - 05/18/11 04:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nooo it is not the right kind of jar for BRF PF cakes, it is a tall half pint jar not a short wide mouth half pint jar which is the right jar for BRF cakes. Just because he bought it in a kit doesn't mean that they are the right jars for the tek. The tall jars are tougher to get fully colonized and sometimes take an extra week to a month to fully colonize. These are the right size jars for BRF PF cakes...
http://www.goodmans.net/i/1908/kerr-0500-wide-mouth-mason-jar-half-pint-8oz.htm?sc=GOOGLEBASE&k=KJ-00500
this is the jar size in his pic...
http://www.goodmans.net/i/488/ball-66000-pint-size-wide-mouth-can-or-freeze-maso.htm
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14471794 - 05/18/11 05:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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3n1gm4 said: Nooo it is not the right kind of jar for BRF PF cakes, it is a tall half pint jar not a short wide mouth half pint jar which is the right jar for BRF cakes. Just because he bought it in a kit doesn't mean that they are the right jars for the tek. The tall jars are tougher to get fully colonized and sometimes take an extra week to a month to fully colonize. These are the right size jars for BRF PF cakes...
http://www.goodmans.net/i/1908/kerr-0500-wide-mouth-mason-jar-half-pint-8oz.htm?sc=GOOGLEBASE&k=KJ-00500
this is the jar size in his pic...
http://www.goodmans.net/i/488/ball-66000-pint-size-wide-mouth-can-or-freeze-maso.htm
Just because colonization would run slower doesn't mean that the jars are unsuitable. That's bollocks. I've grown in almost every wide mouth glass jar I could find and they all work perfectly.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: MushroomPalace]
#14471847 - 05/18/11 05:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have grown in an 8"x12" casserole dish, wide mouth pint jars, and wide mouth half pints.
Every time I try to make a pint cake even if I use coffee for 25% of the water and add gypsum the cake takes forever to colonize and most of the time never finishes colonizing.
Do you have good success with WM pints and if so will you please share your secret.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14472858 - 05/18/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I promise that they are the right size jars.., I purchased the deluxe grow kit from Cali Grow Kits if you want to see exactly what I'm working with. And I am sorry if I am taking up too much time from you guys, but I really appreciate all of the help that you guys have to offer but my apologies to anyone who is upset that I keep asking questions. Thank you all for your help.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14473168 - 05/18/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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3n1gm4 said: I have grown in an 8"x12" casserole dish, wide mouth pint jars, and wide mouth half pints.
Every time I try to make a pint cake even if I use coffee for 25% of the water and add gypsum the cake takes forever to colonize and most of the time never finishes colonizing.
Do you have good success with WM pints and if so will you please share your secret.
Same thing happens to me when I use WM pints for the verm/brf cakes. And that it takes about one and a half months for the whole cake to colonize, and the bottom will not fully colonize. Virtually all the time it wont colonize a nickel size part of the bottom of the cake.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: Ajm]
#14473336 - 05/18/11 01:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ajm said:
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3n1gm4 said: I have grown in an 8"x12" casserole dish, wide mouth pint jars, and wide mouth half pints.
Every time I try to make a pint cake even if I use coffee for 25% of the water and add gypsum the cake takes forever to colonize and most of the time never finishes colonizing.
Do you have good success with WM pints and if so will you please share your secret.
Same thing happens to me when I use WM pints for the verm/brf cakes. And that it takes about one and a half months for the whole cake to colonize, and the bottom will not fully colonize. Virtually all the time it wont colonize a nickel size part of the bottom of the cake.
Make your cake substrate fluffier, more verm or less water, pick one. If you find vermiculite with a little larger of a grain size it will also help to make it very fluffy. The fluffier it is the less it will compact at the bottom, which is what slows and sometimes halts the colonization. In the mind of the Mycellial network it's not worth the energy to try and push through.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: Ajm]
#14473366 - 05/18/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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1/2 pint wide mouth short jars! Not the tall ones!
Listen I found a way to make them colonize better when they get around 80-85%, its a secret but not for long.
You use GLC, self healing inoc points, a SFD filter hole, and when it is almost done colonizing in 2-3 weeks you shake the already shrunken cake loose and rotate it so that the uncolonized parts aren't sitting in the water stuck between the cake and the jar and spin them as it colonizes. The verm wont colonize on the surface between it and the jar when it has water spots standing on it. Last time I did pint cakes I got them to fully colonize in a month and birthed them with invitros. The shadow in my last sig pic is me holding one of the invitro fruits. I can't seem to get them to do a second flush though, they always turn blue and the skin on the outside shrinks and wrinkles up. I did have some good success crumbling them to a tray of left over coir though,had allot of bottom pins though because I sat it on a rack above the perlite out of the tray.
I guess I will try a bigger bag of verm, they should sell it in smaller bags.
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