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Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe?
    #14467644 - 05/17/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hi everyone,

I am a total health nut, but I also like to get high. I only use a vaporizer. But my question is, if you use a vaporizer, is marijuana esentially "harmless" in your opinnion, or does it still cause respiratory problems and increase say, lung or throat cancer risk?

My thinking is that because there is no combustion, there should be no particulate inhalation and virtually no carcinogenic factor.

What are you throughts?

Is marijuana vapor as harmless as water vapor?

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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #14467688 - 05/17/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Vaporizers are very nice, if you like getting stoned this is the safest method aside from eating it. Plus the high is very clean and tastes AMAZING! Get a nice one though, you want quality if your a health nut :biggrin:


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #14467695 - 05/17/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think that even if you smoked marijuana you wouldn't get lung or throat cancer. Vaporizing puts my last statement into rock meaning it is ALMOST perfectaly safe.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: Curiousgeorge22]
    #14468002 - 05/17/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm a health nut myself and bought a vaporizer just for this reason. Works great, get one dude.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: MoxyOx]
    #14468174 - 05/17/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

1/6th as harmful as smoking. Of course it's not completely safe but it is much better.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: Curiousgeorge22]
    #14468271 - 05/17/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Curiousgeorge22 said:
I think that even if you smoked marijuana you wouldn't get lung or throat cancer. Vaporizing puts my last statement into rock meaning it is ALMOST perfectaly safe.




yea pot doesn't cause cancer, in fact scientific studies with rats says it can slow the spread of it and possibly cure it. the only risk is getting something like bronchitis, so i think a vaporizer would even more safe.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: bigmike7104]
    #14468777 - 05/17/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The cannabinoids themselves are anti-cancerous.  In one study heavy pot smokers (20+ years) were at 64% less risk for head and neck cancers (these are usually associated with smoking and drinking as irritants to the throat).  Inhaling vape will help reduce cancer.

However, inhaling hot vapor into your lungs can still burn them and leave you maybe slightly more prone to respiratory infections.  But seeing as you have probably already been smoking pot for many years, the change will be beneficial.

Eating it is obviously the safest way, but if you want the instant effect, vaporizer is the winner.


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Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: Cannashroom]
    #14468993 - 05/17/11 05:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

A lot of people are saying smoking weed is perfectly fine and that's a load of poop. Smoking actually is quite malignant to your health. When you're scarring your throat and lungs with combustion byproducts there will definitely be some damage.

It's half the reason tobacco smoking is bad for you, just the fact that you're burning it and inhaling the fumes puts you at risk. Ingesting tobacco through other means puts you at a MUCH lower level of cancer risk. Just look at smoking vs. chewing tobacco. Monumental difference between cancer association.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: MoxyOx]
    #14469279 - 05/17/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Wouldnt eating pot, like a brownie... what if any bad stuff would that have? It looks almost harmless to me. I can see smoke still being bad, not as bad as cigs cuz they add so much crap, but smoke is smoke. What about eating it?? cant be bad for your liver...


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: MoxyOx]
    #14472507 - 05/18/11 10:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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A lot of people are saying smoking weed is perfectly fine and that's a load of poop. Smoking actually is quite malignant to your health. When you're scarring your throat and lungs with combustion byproducts there will definitely be some damage.

It's half the reason tobacco smoking is bad for you, just the fact that you're burning it and inhaling the fumes puts you at risk. Ingesting tobacco through other means puts you at a MUCH lower level of cancer risk. Just look at smoking vs. chewing tobacco. Monumental difference between cancer association.



just because logic says that smokin anythin is bad, that does not mean that smokin weed is necessarly bad.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: foliocb]
    #14472807 - 05/18/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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1/6th as harmful as smoking. Of course it's not completely safe but it is much better.




Where did you get that number?

I read that 99.9999999997485% of numbers are made up in peoples head

Vaporizing is perfectly far better compared to smoking. No combustion, no problem.

Eating obviously takes the cake, but you can't beat a nice big fat vape hit


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: Curiousgeorge22]
    #14472824 - 05/18/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

MoxyOx said:
A lot of people are saying smoking weed is perfectly fine and that's a load of poop. Smoking actually is quite malignant to your health. When you're scarring your throat and lungs with combustion byproducts there will definitely be some damage.

It's half the reason tobacco smoking is bad for you, just the fact that you're burning it and inhaling the fumes puts you at risk. Ingesting tobacco through other means puts you at a MUCH lower level of cancer risk. Just look at smoking vs. chewing tobacco. Monumental difference between cancer association.



just because logic says that smokin anythin is bad, that does not mean that smokin weed is necessarly bad.




exactly. there are carcinogens in the smoke of pot of course, but the thc's anti-tumor effect keeps them from turning cells cancerous.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: bigmike7104]
    #14472944 - 05/18/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've been told by one of my recent doctors that unconclusive studies have shown that THC can cause scarring of the liver. Whether this is true or not, I'm sure it has yet to be proven. If this were true though, I would think that ingesting weed isn't as safe as we think it is since higher doses are used.

Whether or not vaporized weed does harm to your body, vaporizers are definitely a safeR alternative to smoking.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: TheEnd]
    #14473418 - 05/18/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

anyone who thinks vaporizing weed is *completely* safe and wont do damage to their lungs is :tard:


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: foliocb]
    #14473484 - 05/18/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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foliocb said:
anyone who thinks vaporizing weed is *completely* safe and wont do damage to their lungs is :tard:



prove to me that it WILL cause damage


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: foliocb]
    #14473805 - 05/18/11 03:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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foliocb said:
anyone who thinks vaporizing weed is *completely* safe and wont do damage to their lungs is :tard:




You made up statistics and fail to provide proof that vaporizing weed causes damage to lungs.

Prove me wrong then. I sure haven't read anywhere that vaporizing weed is harmful to the lungs. My lungs feel fresh before, during and after vaping unlike smoking


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14473988 - 05/18/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The simple fact is that it probably does do damage to some peoples lungs, and for others it might not do any damage at all.

Everyone's body is made differently and reacts differently to things, you can't generalize everybody's physical or mental health and then tell one particular person that something is or isn't bad for their health.
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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: MoxyOx]
    #14474797 - 05/18/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i honestly don't see how vaporizing or eating cannabis could have any potential negative health consequences WHATSOEVER... that's just how i see things though, and i'm sure a lot of you will like to think i'm crazy and my views are wishful thinking at best.

however, go ahead and try to give a good argument and prove me wrong.. in the end it's all subjective opinion anyway and we're all ultimiately free to choose how we want to treat our bodies

but seriously :rolleyes:


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: foliocb]
    #14474802 - 05/18/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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foliocb said:
anyone who thinks vaporizing weed is *completely* safe and wont do damage to their lungs is :tard:




paranoia? hidden agenda?


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: owls]
    #14475737 - 05/18/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My lungs hurt after vaporizer use. Im pretty sure that's enough evidence for me that it fucks with your lungs, regardless of howmuch compared to smoking. Show me evidence where it benefits or is completely neutral to the lungs... :boot:


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: foliocb]
    #14475865 - 05/18/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I used to smoke a lot, so I decided to try to do my lungs a favor and invested in a Volcano.

The hits are very smooth, far easier on the lungs than smoking.  I believe it has to be much healthier. 

I think its a stretch to say its COMPLETELY safe though.  You are still inhaling heated air which can irritate your lungs.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: SbstratAlchemist]
    #14476290 - 05/19/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Chewing gum doesn't lead to cancer. Chewing tobacco does. Tobacco is carcinogenic.

Eating weed doesn't lead to cancer. Weed itself doesn't cause cancer. Smoke is bad for your lungs. Vaporizing creates a VAPOR, not smoke. Every time you take a shower, you breath in TONS of water vapor. I have yet to see anything showing that showers lead to cancer or ANYTHING bad.

The only thing vaporized weed could harm is your brain. Because face it, there IS such a thing as a burnout. However, that's only if you go overboard...


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: Shroomerited]
    #14477795 - 05/19/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Chewing gum doesn't lead to cancer. Chewing tobacco does. Tobacco is carcinogenic.

Eating weed doesn't lead to cancer. Weed itself doesn't cause cancer. Smoke is bad for your lungs. Vaporizing creates a VAPOR, not smoke. Every time you take a shower, you breath in TONS of water vapor. I have yet to see anything showing that showers lead to cancer or ANYTHING bad.

The only thing vaporized weed could harm is your brain. Because face it, there IS such a thing as a burnout. However, that's only if you go overboard...




You're comparing tobacco and weed to water?  :confused2:


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: TheEnd]
    #14478097 - 05/19/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

We should do a test. Get one of those breathing things witu the ping pong ball that measure how much air you move. Test before smoking and after. Do with both a cig then with bud. A test should be down involving physical activity as well. Anyone wanna help set up a experiment and try it out.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: federaldb59]
    #14478370 - 05/19/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

A fox isnt contagious. You cant get radiation poisoning from it. Take some of the hair off and smoke it.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: dshow]
    #14478467 - 05/19/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Shows the difference between vaporizing and smoking.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #14478477 - 05/19/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

No it's not completely 100% safe, buts it's a whole hell of a lot safer than smoking.

Pretty sure I've got a better chance of dying from a cardiovascular disease from eating all the munchies than dying from a bud vapor caused disease.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: OmnerMG]
    #14479192 - 05/19/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I do agree that it is much safer then smoking. However, completely safe from respiratory damage? No. :ahahaha:


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #14479561 - 05/19/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

chances are a vape will cause some combustion of your herb, so obviously way heathier than smoking it but to say it is COMPLETELY HARMLESS is a bold statement. to say it is fairly harmless seems more accurate to me...if we are getting literal about this


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: foliocb]
    #14485594 - 05/20/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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My lungs hurt after vaporizer use. Im pretty sure that's enough evidence for me that it fucks with your lungs, regardless of howmuch compared to smoking. Show me evidence where it benefits or is completely neutral to the lungs... :boot:




and you were also a "piracetam non-responder" (no such thing.) just goes to show you how powerful the mind is. your lungs hurt? that's laughable to me.. although i will admit i could potentially be wrong here, but i honestly think this is all in your head


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: owls]
    #14486955 - 05/20/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

foliocb said:
My lungs hurt after vaporizer use. Im pretty sure that's enough evidence for me that it fucks with your lungs, regardless of howmuch compared to smoking. Show me evidence where it benefits or is completely neutral to the lungs... :boot:




and you were also a "piracetam non-responder" (no such thing.) just goes to show you how powerful the mind is. your lungs hurt? that's laughable to me.. although i will admit i could potentially be wrong here, but i honestly think this is all in your head




You know, some peoples lungs hurt even when they don't smoke anything, people with lung diseases per say. Just because you have healthy lungs doesn't mean that everyone else does. :shake:

It's easy for hot air to irritate the throat. I find that it helps to drink something sugary before I smoke or vape because it sort of coats my mouth and throat. Eating dry munchies and smoking inbetween sucks, lol.


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Re: Vaporizing marijuana- completely safe? [Re: TheEnd]
    #14487773 - 05/21/11 12:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Actually owls, there are many reported non-responders on bluelight forum, do a search for yourself and youll see that a poll was done and 2/3 of piracetam users on the forum who participated in the poll were non responders.

Works for some, didnt do shit for me and I trialed for over a month with it. I like my healthy lungs so I can run 6 miles tomorrow :ass:


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