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Another Newb Q & A :)
    #14466501 - 05/17/11 06:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hi All,

The new spores arived today, Mexicans, Ecudore & cambodians and also my new liquid culture vials. They arived but my vials already has 10mls of liquid nuits un them so how many ml of spore do i add to this. ??

Also if any have tried the shrooms i have got then how did they find them?? Good? Bad?

Also Thanks in advance people.

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: Primz]
    #14466552 - 05/17/11 06:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

mex eqs and cambo are prolly the most popular cubes purchased. they all have the same growth parameters, all have the same foul taste and all get you high (how high depends on how many you eat!)
i personally prefer eqs, but thats just cos i had a nice experience on them and they hold my heart (aahh!)
but really they are all much the same. a cube is a cube is a cube. (except for Penis Envy!)
but have fun, read much learn loads get high and welcome to the site!

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: shroomzi8]
    #14467359 - 05/17/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah my choice is leaning towards the cambodians so hopefully they will be good going for level 2-3 really and have Avatar in 3D to watch so will be good.

Does anyone know how many ml`s of spores to add into a culture vial thats got 10ml of nuit`s in???

Thanks in Advance peeps :smile:

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: Primz]
    #14467416 - 05/17/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Primz- It really depends on how thick the syringes are with spores... if your going for a LC though 1-2 ml should be fine. More would just be overkill haha. You can save the rest of the spores and just use the LC then. Have fun :laugh:

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: runepanther]
    #14467616 - 05/17/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks mate, apprciate it. Am just getting a bit worried now i got all the stuff and are getting closer and closer to the day of the project :smile:

I know its noob but is this right, Inject 1-2ml of spores into my 10ml LC vial, leave 1-7 days and shake every day at least once, when mycelium has germinated and formed such up and inject 1-2mls into my grow substrate, incubate and wait for the cakes for do there thing, when pin heads show put in fruit????

PS: Be gental i am noob..... but remember with your help i can become the Pro :smile: lol

Thanks in advance peeps

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: Primz]
    #14468719 - 05/17/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Any one???? :smile:

help and advice would be brill

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: Primz]
    #14468766 - 05/17/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You don't need to bother incubating, unless it's mad cold in your house. Normal room temp. is fine. You wait for the cakes to get 100% colonized (as in the outside looks completely white), then you wait another week just to make sure the mycelium has a firm grasp on the substrate. After that you dunk in water for 24 and roll in dry verm. Put in your fruiting chamber and mist the outside lightly. Mist/fan as needed. Pick pins + WIN


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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: YHWH]
    #14471085 - 05/18/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dry martini please, swirled not shaken, can I get a marble and some broken glass in the bottom of that for a garnish please.

If you shake your LC you could get the GE filter wet and invite some contams in, either build a magnetic stir plate or swirl the LC with something to break up the myc already in the jar trying not to get the(Hopefully SFD or whatmans) filter wet. If you have a PC to make a GLC you should be doing bulk in a mono with Damion5050's coir tek to mix the grain spawn with. Bulk is the easiest way I have gone so far, much less fanning and misting with just a little more prep. Dry ounces of shrooms from one flush is great! Fanning and misting multiple times a day while staring closely at a cylinder of old rice flower and verm and drilling 1000 holes...ahhhh not soo much...


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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: YHWH]
    #14471579 - 05/18/11 02:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You don't need to bother incubating, unless it's mad cold in your house. Normal room temp. is fine. You wait for the cakes to get 100% colonized (as in the outside looks completely white), then you wait another week just to make sure the mycelium has a firm grasp on the substrate. After that you dunk in water for 24 and roll in dry verm. Put in your fruiting chamber and mist the outside lightly. Mist/fan as needed. Pick pins + WIN




Thanks for that mate, makes things a bit more clearer. Am using not glass jars but 1ltr plastic tubs sort of the kind that you find at a chinese takeaway :smile: But my friend said they perfect for shrooms.

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: Primz]
    #14471594 - 05/18/11 03:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I predict a stall and more questions about why your myc stopped colonizing in your future, HP WM jars work the best for cakes, maybe he was talking about a mini bulk sub grow in those take out tubs? They would work for a kindof mini bulk tray pretty good probably but with PF tek you don't want the cakes big because gravity compacts the bottom of the BRF/verm and makes it nearly impossible to fully colonize. JMO


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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14471683 - 05/18/11 03:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ok. That sort of makes sence as well. I was going for muti of these take out boxes prob go for 10-15 cakes in total. Not looking for a massive grow substrate but multi small ones if that makes sence so prob fill my fruit chamber with about 10 boxes each.

Whats your thoughts??

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: Primz]
    #14471709 - 05/18/11 04:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If the boxes fully colonize you can try whatever you want in fruiting them, crumble and case or whatever. The problem is that with BRF/verm mixture it will not be easy to get anything bigger than a half pint wide mouth jar to fully colonize. If you haven't started them yet use 1/2-half strength coffee and half water to hydrate.(make coffee mix with half water, dilute with another 50% water making it 25% coffee 75% water and add some gypsum found in your local garden center, both of those will speed the colonization giving you a better chance to colonize those big arse buckets. Good luck but I have the damnedest time getting a pint jar to colonize even with coffee and gypsum.:shrug::goodluck:

If you want to do small bulk tray/tubs you will probably have to get a pressure cooker or make half pint wide mouth cakes and crumble and mix those with your substrate in the tubs and maybe case them. I would just save up for a pressure cooker and do bulk grain in a mono if it were me, I don't think your tubs will make it, but they definately could because I have made a 5 pound cake and seen other huge cakes on here but I have never seen a fruit or a pic of one from any of these cakes.:awesomenod::mushroomgrow:
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RR's grain prep, Damion5050's elementary coir tek, agar's GLC tek, Todlow's lid tek<--follow these and get dry ounces of mushrooms from one little tote:super:

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14471858 - 05/18/11 05:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dam dont say that i already got the tubs the other day but only cost a £1 for 4 tubbs lol (i have 32 tubs in total) They are about 900ml so twice the size of a MicroBox 500ml tub.

As i live in UK supplys are a bit of a issue i can source what i need but at a high cost and lots of running about.

If you think its not worth while to do it in the 900ml tubs i got then would a 500ml tub of the same kind do???

Also what mix would you use in regards to Vermiclite, rye seed ect ect

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: Primz]
    #14471878 - 05/18/11 06:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I would go to http://www.mushroomvideos.com and read up on grain preperation.

Then I would get a few +or- a few quarts 64 quart storage totes with lids and make mono tubs spawned with 3 quarts of rye to Damion5050's elementary coir tek sub and be drying out ounces and ounces of cracker dry shrooms. But you need a pressure cooker for that.:shrug: I don't really know exactly what you are planning to do...or I would try to suggest something:shrug:


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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14471923 - 05/18/11 06:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Basicly bottom line and i no this screams noob but just trying to grow some shrroms lol

I just need to know if what im doing or planning is right.

Have got my spores (10ml needle) and got BRF and Vermiculite for substrate, and the 900ml plastic tubs i mentioned. As i am using LC vials i will germ my mycelium there and then inoculate my tubs.

Wait for colonize then put in fruit chamber. Keep conditions ideal and then enjoy.

Basicly that is what i have got to grips with so far.

Any simple ajustments to what im doing would be great tho.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: Primz]
    #14471973 - 05/18/11 07:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

how long have you been reading on this site???...most of your concerns are available via the search feature...I started reading last June...started growing last Sept...read till yer eyes bleed....then read more...or trust newbs like me or 3n1gm4 ...just how I do things...read read read...then read a bit more...:wink:


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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14472036 - 05/18/11 07:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I would go to http://www.mushroomvideos.com and read up on grain preperation.

Then I would get a few +or- a few quarts 64 quart storage totes with lids and make mono tubs spawned with 3 quarts of rye to Damion5050's elementary coir tek sub and be drying out ounces and ounces of cracker dry shrooms. But you need a pressure cooker for that.:shrug: I don't really know exactly what you are planning to do...or I would try to suggest something:shrug:




Dude.... now that is what i ment.... That vid is the best bit of info by far. Of course the FAQ`s here are great and worth there weight in gold but i have read for weeks now...... weeks and weeks on end and frankly the Mrs is getting pissed off that my head is burried in the PC for hours each day.

I think i will go with 1/2 pint rounded plastic tubs and glass jars are expensive and hard to find here. .......

any feedback on the jar issue??

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: Primz]
    #14473746 - 05/18/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You should use your PC for sterilizing things not for burying your head in, PC a rye jar that has been soaked for 24 hours with gypsum water, boil it for 10 minutes, and run some cold water in sink while you pour grain into strainer to drain gypsum water. Steam shake it dry while it cools and then load your jar, take your head out of the PC, fill with an inch or so of water and PC the jar for 90 minutes. When it is cool the next day noc it with some spores by shaking the needle and dripping spore water down the sides of the jar and in middle, use 3/4 to 1 cc.

Wait till that colonizes completely PC some water for 90 minutes, let cool, squirt the steril water in the grain jar after breaking up grain and shake some more, then draw up enough fast growing myc to squirt back into the sterile water to inoc up 100s of PF jars if you like them, or more grain if you like mushrooms...

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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14473851 - 05/18/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

A US half pint is 250mm, Poundland sell 3 plastic clip top plastic contaners for a £1.
1 each 100mm, 285mm, 600mm and you can PC them.
use the 100mm for LC the 285 for PF and the 600mm for grain
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Re: Another Newb Q & A :) [Re: dakgm]
    #14473859 - 05/18/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

sorry the mm should be ml

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