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headiebudz
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First Grow. P.E. (UPDATED WITH FRUITING PICS!!!!)) Help with Mutants!!!
#14466973 - 05/17/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello all. I have been following this site for some time now and finally decided to start my first grow. Just so everyone knows what I did here is my process.
colonized to wbs in pint jars(12) spawned to bulk sub(verm, coir, coffee grounds, egg shells) cased with 50/50+
The pictures are 9 days after set into fruiting conditions. From all the info that I have read on the Penis Envy strain all of those white blobs are "mutants" but should still be fine to eat. Conformation of this would be helpful. Anyway let me know how I am doing. I have 2-3 really good pins as seen in the pictures and I just wanted to be sure that the blue areas that are pictured is just bruising cased by low humidity. My FC was not set right for the first couple of days. Thoughts and criticisms welcome as this is my first grow. Thanks again for all the help an info everyone.
Also in the bottom row of pictures, the 2nd from the left there is a big white patch of nothing going on in that tray, should I be concerned, or am i just being impatient? lol. Thanks again.

          
Edited by headiebudz (05/20/11 07:07 AM)
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: headiebudz]
#14467011 - 05/17/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, it looks like you got fruits before 100% consolidation.
I see no problem area. The color looked bluish and the mutants are normal for PE.
Good luck,
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: headiebudz]
#14467131 - 05/17/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the response. So is the fruiting before full colonization a bad thing? or will my flushes just be less? its a learning process so all of it helps.
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: headiebudz]
#14469470 - 05/17/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is a conundrum. One the one hand you want to achieve full colonization before you move to fruiting conditions, so as to avoid contamination. On the other fruits need air and moisture.
The path that you have taken has been successful for others. I am sure that you will get some fruits. Have fun!
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: Javadog]
#14469726 - 05/17/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the help JD. I have a bunch of pins now and i am sure that further colonization would lead to a better overall pin set, but for y first grow i am happy with the results so far. i will update with more pics as time moves on. Thanks again.
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: headiebudz]
#14469739 - 05/17/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I thought peat was only used for casing not as a bulk substrate?
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: monkey_massacre]
#14469966 - 05/17/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is true.
Peat is not nutritious to fungus.
It might do ok things to a substrate's consistency, but I have only used it for 50/50 casing soils.
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: Javadog]
#14470210 - 05/17/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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There's a mistake in the first post of this thread... the substrate is coir, and all ingredients listed are additives to the coir
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: Greens21]
#14470542 - 05/17/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You'll get fruits in uneven pinsets and prolly be picking that bia all the time but, "YOU WILL GET FRUITS". It's part of the whole learning curve for some of us more impatient folks out here. Patience definitely pays off in mycology and start to finish times don't vary much between taking your time and getting in a hurry. The bonus of the path you've chosen most of the time is lots of little fellas witch can prove to be quite fun!
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: Greens21]
#14472135 - 05/18/11 08:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Greens21 said: There's a mistake in the first post of this thread... the substrate is coir, and all ingredients listed are additives to the coir
Very true and good catch Greens, I used Coir and not peat, wrote it in wrong. Sorry for the confusion. As far as the "mutants" go when should I pick those off? I have read that taking the off allows for the normal fruits to start coming up, but i have also read that leaving them alone allows them to keep growing and that they tend to be more potent than normal fruits. Any thought?
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: headiebudz]
#14472235 - 05/18/11 09:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Very true and good catch Greens, I used Coir and not peat, wrote it in wrong. Sorry for the confusion. As far as the "mutants" go when should I pick those off? I have read that taking the off allows for the normal fruits to start coming up, but i have also read that leaving them alone allows them to keep growing and that they tend to be more potent than normal fruits. Any thought?
I personally say let the mutants grow to full size before you pick them. I have always heard they are more potent, then again most mutants in my grows have never reached full maturity (I.E. a veil that never breaks or simply stunted growth) and also top out at smaller sizes, which would make sense on the potency front. Plus sometimes they look absolutely crazy and I personally like to check out how they develop. That's just my 2 cents
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: King Cap]
#14472243 - 05/18/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info King Cap.I will leave some and pick some to try out both methods I guess. Anyone else have thoughts on the matter? I am also taking more pictures now and will have more up shortly. Thanks again for all the help everyone, this is by far the most helpful forum I am a member of.
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Edited by headiebudz (05/18/11 09:20 AM)
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: headiebudz]
#14472411 - 05/18/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here are some more pictures I just took. Let me know what you think. I am still amazed at how quickly they take off once they start growing.
       
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: headiebudz]
#14475398 - 05/18/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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dude i've never grown PE but i've heard about those mutants... those white globbies look fuckin weird now that they're starting to pin
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Re: First Grow. P.E. wbs spawn>bulk how am I doing? [Re: Greens21]
#14477602 - 05/19/11 09:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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They are very strange indeed. Still don't know when I should pick them. I am getting a ton of new pins and the mutants appear to be getting in their way. Any thoughts on when to pluck them? I will also be putting up current pictures later on today.
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fruting pics and mutant questions [Re: headiebudz]
#14482982 - 05/20/11 06:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here are some updated pictures I took this morning. My main question is what to do with the mutant fruits. A lot of them are turning or are already blue as the pictures show. So my question is should I pick these now and let the "normal" fruits have more room or not? They look pretty done to me, this is just my first grow and I'm not trying to mess anything up. Thanks for the help.
This first one shows the blue mutants. Pick or no?

These are very dark blue, possibly aborts?

This is one big cluster of blue.

Bad picture, but this mutant's cap has turned a nice shade of blue, think it is ready?

More mutants

These just look like red tumors.

More:

So just let me know what you guys and girls think. Thanks again for the help.
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Re: fruting pics and mutant questions [Re: headiebudz]
#14483115 - 05/20/11 07:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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On the aborts, the head will get dark, and the body will start to turn blue and soft. You'll want to pick these before they get too soft yes.
On the mutants, those aren't really done yet. But if you get impatient and want the 2nd flush to arrive sooner, u can just harvest them whenever.
I have a theory about PE that the longer u leave them on the sub, the more potent they get.
I see u have some regular fruits. I would use those to judge when the flush is done. When the neck under the head of those good lookin fruits is thoroughly wrinkly, harvest the whole tub in one shot.
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Re: fruting pics and mutant questions [Re: anonjon]
#14483126 - 05/20/11 07:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree. Leave the blobs until you harvest the fruits. Those blobs ARE THE BEST!
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Re: fruting pics and mutant questions [Re: anonjon]
#14483147 - 05/20/11 07:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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anonjon said: On the aborts, the head will get dark, and the body will start to turn blue and soft. You'll want to pick these before they get too soft yes.
On the mutants, those aren't really done yet. But if you get impatient and want the 2nd flush to arrive sooner, u can just harvest them whenever.
I have a theory about PE that the longer u leave them on the sub, the more potent they get.
I see u have some regular fruits. I would use those to judge when the flush is done. When the neck under the head of those good lookin fruits is thoroughly wrinkly, harvest the whole tub in one shot.
Awesome information. I will probably check the aborts and take those out today. I do have some normal fruits, quite a bit actually so i will take your advice and gauge the harvest off of them. Thanks for the help. I can't wait to try these out!!!!
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Re: fruting pics and mutant questions [Re: headiebudz]
#14483196 - 05/20/11 07:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Professor Pinhead has really mastered the art of pretty first flushes with the penis. Even tho the blobs are awesome potent, blob flushes hurt your yield a good bit and u want to avoid it.
His substrate mix, spawn ratio, and tub conditions all come together to make some really pretty PE tubs.
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Re: fruting pics and mutant questions [Re: anonjon]
#14483217 - 05/20/11 07:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good stuff and thanks again. I will look up some of his grows and tweak my future grows accordingly.
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