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ash057
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PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!!
#14466887 - 05/17/11 08:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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On day 12 of a PE6 mono. This morning I noticed these yellow spots in the corner of the tub. The shitty camera didnt do a very good job of capturing the color. Its definately yellow and not green(yet) I am hoping metabolites?

Day 13 woke up this morning and found little greenish blobs in the same spot I was concerned about yesterday. The rest of the tub looks great with knots all over it. but really concerned about the green

Here is a better pic of the green I saw this morning. It looks more green tonight,, what should I do?

and.... PINS!!!


Day 14 - the green is spreading any advice?
Edited by ash057 (05/19/11 06:50 AM)
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Re: day 12 yellow spots [Re: ash057]
#14466937 - 05/17/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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That would be my guess, I'm in the process of my first grow and there's a yellow haze over the top, and those patches usually form into pins. Yours could be different and on my cell phone I can't see that picture worth a shit, but I think you're fine.
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Re: day 12 yellow spots [Re: orange771]
#14472103 - 05/18/11 08:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: day 12 yellow spots [Re: ash057]
#14472198 - 05/18/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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TBH I dont see any green, I think you're safe.
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Re: day 12 yellow spots [Re: paradise]
#14472202 - 05/18/11 09:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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so it has been a day any change?
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Re: day 12 yellow spots [Re: lostinbq]
#14475430 - 05/18/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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lostinbq said: so it has been a day any change?
lots of change! there are more pins than I can count,, and my yellow spot has turned a shade of yucky green. I updated with more pics.
Edited by ash057 (05/18/11 08:57 PM)
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: ash057]
#14477155 - 05/19/11 06:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Day 14 - the green is spreading any advice?
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: ash057]
#14477157 - 05/19/11 06:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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garbage it. sorry man.
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: anonjon]
#14477166 - 05/19/11 06:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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That sux....what about burying it in table salt?
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: oysterlover]
#14477179 - 05/19/11 06:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What u have there is a full blown , first flush trichsplosion.
Odds are the spawn was contaminated. This doesn't look like a case that's suited for any kind of paste.
A candidate for paste is a substrate that is pinning in parts but has small contained areas of dark green.
When you see a mountain of trich welling up from under the surface like that, there's not much hope. You're better off to trash it before it becomes a big trich bomb.
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: oysterlover]
#14477184 - 05/19/11 07:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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drewby07 said: That sux....what about burying it in table salt?
I like that idea better than tossing the whole tub! I thought about just using a shop vac on that corner of the tub.
My luck I got nice pins all over a 61qt mono the same day 1 small spot of light green shows up.
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: ash057]
#14477197 - 05/19/11 07:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You see those light tan spots near the green?
Are there any more of those anywhere on the substrate? If so, how many / where ?
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: anonjon]
#14477198 - 05/19/11 07:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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anonjon said: What u have there is a full blown , first flush trichsplosion.
Odds are the spawn was contaminated. This doesn't look like a case that's suited for any kind of paste.
A candidate for paste is a substrate that is pinning in parts but has small contained areas of dark green.
When you see a mountain of trich welling up from under the surface like that, there's not much hope. You're better off to trash it before it becomes a big trich bomb.
thats the thing... the sub is pinning ALL over the entire tub. The only spot not pinning is little spot in the corner. (and thats the only hint of green)
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: ash057]
#14477206 - 05/19/11 07:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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bury it in tile grout then. salt sucks. it causes water to pool up top thru osmosis and u get a small salt water pond that damages the substrate.
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: anonjon]
#14477210 - 05/19/11 07:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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where are these pins btw? i don't see ne.
..nmind i see em...looked closer.
If u use salt, take it easy or u'll make a lake.
If u use sand or grout or something, be generous and really bury that corner. Sucking it out with the vac first could be beneficial but you have to watch where you're exhausting the vaccuum and u don't want the trich to colonize your vacuum bag. so think carefully before u get crazy w/ your vac.
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: ash057]
#14477223 - 05/19/11 07:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ash057 said:
Day 14 - the green is spreading any advice?

Obvious bruising. Trich spores sit on top of the surface. The green in your picture is the color of the mycelium. That indicates bruising. Many strains bruise green, not blue. RR
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14477228 - 05/19/11 07:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'll bet my left nut that's trich.
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14477230 - 05/19/11 07:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said:
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ash057 said:
Day 14 - the green is spreading any advice?

Obvious bruising. Trich spores sit on top of the surface. The green in your picture is the color of the mycelium. That indicates bruising. Many strains bruise green, not blue. RR
doh,, already drowned it in salt,,, but thanks for helping easy my mind RR
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: ash057]
#14477286 - 05/19/11 07:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well that's sort of good news...
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: oysterlover]
#14477300 - 05/19/11 07:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Salt is highly toxic to mycelium. I was afraid a few years ago when I mentioned that covering a spot of mold with salt can help get a substrate through a current flush, that people would start using it routinely and recommending such to others. I now regret doing so. It has ruined far more grows than it has saved. I don't even use salt in my own mushroom farm, where getting through to harvest is the difference between making a profit and starving. Contaminated substrates go to the garden area on first sight.
The bumps on that substrate are suspect and may indeed turn out to be nasty, but the spot of green pictured above is bruising. RR
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14477322 - 05/19/11 07:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i agree with RR
i dont see trich, only slight bruising... nothing to worry about. if it gets contaminated, it gets contaminated. nothin you can do.
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14477324 - 05/19/11 07:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Salt is highly toxic to mycelium. I was afraid a few years ago when I mentioned that covering a spot of mold with salt can help get a substrate through a current flush, that people would start using it routinely and recommending such to others. I now regret doing so. It has ruined far more grows than it has saved. I don't even use salt in my own mushroom farm, where getting through to harvest is the difference between making a profit and starving. Contaminated substrates go to the garden area on first sight.
The bumps on that substrate are suspect and may indeed turn out to be nasty, but the spot of green pictured above is bruising. RR
If it helps I covered the salted area with tile adhesive,, will see if it spreads.
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: ash057]
#14477346 - 05/19/11 08:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tile adhesive? What's in it? Anything the mycelium absorbs will be in the fruits. Do you want to eat that? Gosh, you tried to 'save' a perfectly good substrate and ended up poisoning it. RR
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14477359 - 05/19/11 08:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: Ajaxx]
#14477389 - 05/19/11 08:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Tile adhesive? What's in it? Anything the mycelium absorbs will be in the fruits. Do you want to eat that? Gosh, you tried to 'save' a perfectly good substrate and ended up poisoning it. RR
I cut that entire corner section out of the tub. No grout/salt/green. (if the tub fails i have backups :P )
You said Trich spores would sit on the surface. I didnt do a good job of capturing the depth in the photo. The area in question between day 12-14 grew little greenish blobs on top of the surface. The surface itself didn't look green or bruised, just the growth on top.
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: ash057]
#14477395 - 05/19/11 08:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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use the q tip test for trich next time before performing surgery on your substrate. cutting a piece out wont hurt the substrate at all either. i broke a tub in half after removing the trash bag (which i found to be a pointless addition to the tub) and the substrate still produced a couple more dry ounces of mushrooms. so you should be in good shape.
trich grows fast. you would defintely notice it over 12-24 hours.
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Re: PE6 Mono *updated with pin pics!!! [Re: ash057]
#14477429 - 05/19/11 08:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
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Ajaxx said: use the q tip test for trich next time before performing surgery on your substrate.
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Ajaxx said: cutting a piece out wont hurt the substrate at all either.
Geezus. Even more disinformation. We've known for years that the q-tip 'test' is null and void. Bruising will easily rub off on a q-tip.
Cutting out 'green mold' makes the problem worse by sending billions of trich spores into the air. NEVER attempt to cut out mold. This has been well-known and documented for many years.
I can't take it any more. This thread is a living fail boat full of horribly bad advice. I have to lock it before any more disinformation gets posted here, which will get quoted over and over again years from now. It's bad enough that the OPs grow has been ruined by bad advice. Threads like this one will result in hundreds of more grows being ruined if it isn't nuked.  RR
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