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Nezzy
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Ubuntu - Linux
#14465287 - 05/16/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was just given a an old HP laptop that was running Windows Vista and was crawling with trojans and various virus'. The thing was barely operable so I wiped everything clean and loaded Ubuntu (Linux) onto it. I had to use the alternate text based installer because the main graphical iso kept on crashing on me. Once I got the system loaded it seems to work like a charm. So far the only issue that I have had with it is compatibility issues with netflix but I suppose I could run a windows emulator for that.
ANYWAYS, are there any other Ubuntu users here? Any must have applications or things I should know? Any input would be much appreciated!
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koraks
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: Nezzy]
#14466042 - 05/17/11 02:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I run Ubuntu (10.04) on my desktop at home and Xubuntu (9.10) in dual-boot with Win7 on my work laptop. In both cases, I use Linux for web browsing, electronics simulation and some GIMP, although I still vastly prefer Photoshop over GIMP.
As to applications: I have been able to find an easy-to-use application for just about anything I've ever wanted to do under Linux. This includes working with Canon RAW files, scanning stuff using a flatbed scanner, viewing medical image files (x-rays), electronics circuit and PCB design, playing media files, etc. etc. Must-haves? I don't know. Maybe GIMP and Gwenview for manipulating and browsing images. And you might want to give WINE a shot for emulating a Windows environment; I use it for LTSpice (electronics sim), which works extremely well with Wine.
The drawback of Linux is that once in a while, you'll need to manipulate one or two things in order to get something to work the way you want it to work. The huge advantage is through that sort of tinkering, you can get almost anything done you might wish for.
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CosmicJoke
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: Nezzy]
#14466205 - 05/17/11 03:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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while i'm not sure there are any must have apps (the whole spirit of linux seems to be personal choice),
i use sabnzbd for usenet, transmission for bittorrents, pidgin for IMing, handbrake for transcoding videos, vlc for video playing, gimp for graphics manipulation, clementine music player, ampache for streaming audio...
honestly, pretty much all apps i use are multiplatform... available on os x and windows as well
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CosmicJoke
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: Nezzy]
#14466209 - 05/17/11 03:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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incidentally, i believe there is a chrome extension for netflix now... should work for linux (haven't looked into yet myself)
-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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Annom
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: Nezzy]
#14466410 - 05/17/11 05:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I upgraded to 11.04 (still using gnome) and my seemingly random crashes finally stopped (was related to my laptop hardware) and everything worked out of the box. I am a happy Ubuntu user for 3 years or so now.
I still use win 7 on dual boot for games, photoshop and indesign, but have found applications for everything else I want to do. I can't think of any general must have apps.
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encryptor


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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: Annom]
#14466904 - 05/17/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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To be able to use Ubuntu to its optimal use, you'll need to learn the Terminal. I purchased "Unix in a Nutshell" 3rd ED with a monkey on the front. It's helpful, but still I don't have the patience to learn which commands I need to install apps or make Ubuntu work in my favor. I would learn it better if an advance Unix user taught me some stuff quickly.
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koraks
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For anyone who worked command line back in the DOS age, Unix bash shouldn't be too difficult to understand, although Unix command line is MUCH more powerful, versatile and consistent than DOS. Without previous experience, it requires some understanding of how a command line interface works. It's not so much about the commands themselves (you can look anything up in the man pages or online), but more about how syntax in general and the Unix file system work.
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frith
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I don't understand how anyone can like Unity.. 
as far as must have apps, that depends entirely on you (welcome to linux) 
i use Gimp, Inkscape, and Fontmatrix on a daily basis. i do a lot of graphic design though.. and yes, i prefer Gimp and Inkscape to Photoshop and Illustrator.
also irssi, newsbeuter, and rtorrent. they will require you to learn a new way of interacting with software but i think it is absolutely worth it. with rtorrent especially.. greatest torrent client ever.
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encryptor said: To be able to use Ubuntu to its optimal use, you'll need to learn the Terminal. I purchased "Unix in a Nutshell" 3rd ED with a monkey on the front. It's helpful, but still I don't have the patience to learn which commands I need to install apps or make Ubuntu work in my favor. I would learn it better if an advance Unix user taught me some stuff quickly.
i know the command line very well and ive never picked up a book.
you will only learn by repetition.
listen to the Linux Reality podcast archives on archive.org. there are other new user centric podcasts as well.. Going Linux i think is another good one.
however, if you are fine with the defaults you are given, you really dont need to touch the command line at all. my mom ran Slackware for 3 years. she has no idea how computers work (let alone linux) and she never had a single problem.
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koraks
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: frith]
#14466984 - 05/17/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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frith said: I don't understand how anyone can like Unity.. 
Word. It sucks. But I see how it could work for nitwits using tablets.
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2hot6ft2
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I used Ubuntu for a while but once I found "Ultimate Edition" I never looked back. It's based on Ubuntu but with more repos. and more apps. some of which aren't available in vanilla Ubuntu. Since it has it's own repos. in addition to the Ubuntu ones it doesn't have Ubuntu in its name. But a lot of people still mistakenly call it Ubuntu Ultimate Edition.
It also has it own forums. It looks a lot better and has been tweaked by TheeMahn so it has fixes that regular Ubuntu doesn't. You can find it here: http://ultimateedition.info the download link is on the right side along with other links (like to the forum).
There is also another new distro. that the members of the Australian forum put together called "Oz Unity". Right now it's only available in 32 bit but they are planing a 64 bit version. You can find that here: http://www.ultimateeditionoz.com/download
Netflix has said for a long time they wouldn't support Linux so I stopped supporting them.
Onlineencryptor, you do know there are GUI's for installing apps.. Right? You don't have to use the terminal to do that. I don't mind the terminal but then I used to enjoy doing things in DOS. And there are guides to do pretty much anything just search their forums, and look in the guides section.
Hmm, must haves for me nautilus-open-terminal (lets you open a terminal in whatever folder you're in) vlc (media player) handbrake (DVD ripper, makemkv is good too) deluge (bit torrent client) conky (I should have never started playing with that it's addictive, but I love my conky weather and sys. specs. on my desktop)
 I was doing some video encoding and several other things when I took that screenshot of my conky. Ultimate Edition has just about everything already installed including vlc except those others and it has Ultimatix, and Ubuntu Tweak GUI's to install those, and make some other personal preference changes.
Anyway. Enjoy, and don't be afraid of the terminal, it can save you a lot of hunting when you know what you want to do, and how to do it.
Guess I should mention that in Ultimate Edition the even numbered releases like 2.6, 2.8 etc. are Gnome only. While the odd numbered releases like 2.7, 2.9 etc. have Gnome, KDE, OpenBox, LXDE, and more all included. You can choose which one you want to start at the login screen. Freaks people out when you keep changing them when they're looking over your shoulder being nosey.
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I'll work on this another time. So much to read and learn here. Great community.
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frith
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: 2hot6ft2]
#14467524 - 05/17/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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2hot6ft2 said: Netflix has said for a long time they wouldn't support Linux so I stopped supporting them.
its not necessarily their fault.. Netflix is using Microsoft's Silverlight which has no official Linux port. there is Moonlight, basically an open source reimplementation of Silverlight, but this doesn't include the Silverlight DRM stack (which is required by Netflix).
Netflix streaming absolutely works right now on Linux but its not available to the masses. it runs on stuff like the Boxee Box and your TV and Bluray players.. they all run Linux and they all stream Netflix.
I'd honestly be shocked if Netflix didn't move to HTML5 within the next year or two.. if for no other reason than so they dont have to pay MS licensing fees for Silverlight.
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2hot6ft2
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: frith]
#14467777 - 05/17/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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frith said:
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2hot6ft2 said: Netflix has said for a long time they wouldn't support Linux so I stopped supporting them.
its not necessarily their fault.. Netflix is using Microsoft's Silverlight which has no official Linux port. there is Moonlight, basically an open source reimplementation of Silverlight, but this doesn't include the Silverlight DRM stack (which is required by Netflix).
Netflix streaming absolutely works right now on Linux but its not available to the masses. it runs on stuff like the Boxee Box and your TV and Bluray players.. they all run Linux and they all stream Netflix.
I'd honestly be shocked if Netflix didn't move to HTML5 within the next year or two.. if for no other reason than so they dont have to pay MS licensing fees for Silverlight.
Someone made the decision to use Silverlight (a propietary format).
Glad to hear it's working, at least they, or the Linux community is making headway with it. Still if it's not available to the masses. I quit reading the Netflix threads a little over a year ago. Back when Netflix said they wouldn't offer support for Linux, and had no plans to.
It's right up there with the local phone company saying they would NEVER offer broadband where I live about 2 years ago. A few months ago they ran fiber optic cable here. Will I jump on it? I seriously doubt it. They will probably require a landline phone, and I'm not about to go that route with them ever again.
Years ago I used Netflix, but they will not dictate what OS I use. Anyway, thanks for the update on the progress with it since there are a lot of people that can't live without it.
I haven't had time to keep up with everything happening in the Linux community this last year with college and everything. I miss it, and hope to find myself back in the forums there real soon. Finding this place, and all the good info., and people, here has had me distracted lately.
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I'll work on this another time. So much to read and learn here. Great community.
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frith
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: 2hot6ft2]
#14467842 - 05/17/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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2hot6ft2 said: Glad to hear it's working, at least they, or the Linux community is making headway with it. Still if it's not available to the masses.
well.. the community isn't making any headway with it.. the device manufacturers are getting permission to use the Silverlight DRM stack from Microsoft. the devices are based on Linux but pretty well locked down to the point that you are only able to do what the device was originally intended for..
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2hot6ft2 said: It's right up there with the local phone company saying they would NEVER offer broadband where I live about 2 years ago. A few months ago they ran fiber optic cable here. Will I jump on it? I seriously doubt it.
you would rather use dialup than fiber to your door?
that is retarded.
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2hot6ft2
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: frith]
#14467913 - 05/17/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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frith said:
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2hot6ft2 said: Glad to hear it's working, at least they, or the Linux community is making headway with it. Still if it's not available to the masses.
well.. the community isn't making any headway with it.. the device manufacturers are getting permission to use the Silverlight DRM stack from Microsoft. the devices are based on Linux but pretty well locked down to the point that you are only able to do what the device was originally intended for..
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2hot6ft2 said: It's right up there with the local phone company saying they would NEVER offer broadband where I live about 2 years ago. A few months ago they ran fiber optic cable here. Will I jump on it? I seriously doubt it.
you would rather use dialup than fiber to your door?
that is retarded.
Ah, so they still aren't supporting Linux then. No, I don't think of xbox, playstation etc. as Linux. Yes, I understand that they do run on it, but then so does my microwave, and alarm clock.
 LMAO, no way I would go back to dialup. I have cable Internet. Guess I should have been more clear.
I hate DRM (not the principle behind it). If I buy a CD/DVD and RIP it to my PC so I can listen to, or watch, it whenever I want without putting the disc in, and some stupid DRM pops up saying it wont play it because I didn't buy it from iTunes or something it P's me off. It hasn't happened in years, but it has happened.
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Bacchus
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: 2hot6ft2]
#14470045 - 05/17/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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KeePassX for password nirvana mediainfo for all of your media info needs secure-delete for good habits Pidgin + OTR for instant messaging EasyTAG and MP3 Diags for music library maintenance (of course they work with FLAC)
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CosmicJoke
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: frith]
#14470295 - 05/17/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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seems just this week i was reading that google intends to have netflix for its chromeos netbook/tablets... i believe some sort of chrome extension is either available or in the works, obtainable through the chrome webstore...
-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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frith
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CosmicJoke said: seems just this week i was reading that google intends to have netflix for its chromeos netbook/tablets... i believe some sort of chrome extension is either available or in the works, obtainable through the chrome webstore...
thatd be pretty rad.
still wouldnt help HTPCs though but i guess its a start..
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CosmicJoke
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: frith]
#14470842 - 05/17/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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dunno, xbmc devs are pretty crafty, i could see some sort of chrome browser integration... may not be the most robust solution, but passable.
-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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neur0net
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: Nezzy]
#14471674 - 05/18/11 03:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nezzy said: I was just given a an old HP laptop that was running Windows Vista and was crawling with trojans and various virus'. The thing was barely operable so I wiped everything clean and loaded Ubuntu (Linux) onto it. I had to use the alternate text based installer because the main graphical iso kept on crashing on me. Once I got the system loaded it seems to work like a charm. So far the only issue that I have had with it is compatibility issues with netflix but I suppose I could run a windows emulator for that.
ANYWAYS, are there any other Ubuntu users here? Any must have applications or things I should know? Any input would be much appreciated!
I run Ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop and I have Ubuntu Studio 10 running on one of the drives on my desktop. It's a great distro (especially for beginning Linux users), definitely the best mainstream one out there. Expect to have issues with stuff like Netflix, Youtube and any site that uses flash video...streaming video has always been flaky under Linux.
As for must have applications, I'd say get OpenOffice, VLC, Chrome, Adobe Reader, Songbird (iTunes-like music player), Eclipse (if you're into programming), Thunderbird, Wine...the list goes on. The Ubuntu Forums is a great place to look for more suggestions. Have fun with Linux!
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Edited by neur0net (05/18/11 03:43 AM)
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Annom
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Re: Ubuntu - Linux [Re: neur0net]
#14471735 - 05/18/11 04:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have no problems with youtube and streaming video. Flash is just inefficient so you may have problems with older computers.
Songbird? They don't support linux anymore. I like Banshee.
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