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Anti-Anxiety drug to be banned in India
    #14460373 - 05/16/11 01:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/antianxiety-drug-to-be-banned-in-india/152491-3.html

Mumbai: The government is planning to ban a popular Anti-Anxiety drug that has been commonly used in India for over a decade. The drug is used without any clinical trials and despite the fact it is banned in several other countries.

TIME magazine describes this decade as the "Age of Anxiety" and 4 out of 10 Indians suffer from anxiety related disorders according to the Indian Council of Medical Research.

The Health Ministry is considering a ban on the commonly-used anti-anxiety drug Deanxit, for potential addiction and because it can sometimes provoke suicidal thoughts and nightmares.

Psychiatrist, Bombay Hospital Dr Sharita Shah, said "In India, its not just psychiatrists who are using it, there are a lot of other doctors, like the GP, cardiologists, everyone prescribes it. So, it is popular, and patients also tend to overdose, once you write a prescription, the patients tend to take the drug on their own, and don’t come back to the doctors."

Deanxit enjoys a Rs 35 crore annual market in India itself. But what is disturbing, given those serious side-effects is that India is one of the few countries to even allow its usage.

Deanxit is banned for use in the country of it’s origin, Denmark. The US FDA, Drug Authorities in UK , Canada, Australia or Japan , have not approved this drug either. For such a drug, no clinical trials were carried out in India.

Taking note of these points, the Health Ministry has NOW setup a panel of medical experts to probe the side effects of this drug. But the bigger question is, who is responsible for the health of those patients who took this medicine for all this while?

Drug Expert, Editor MIMS Dr CM Gulati said “Why on Earth did the DCGI approve it? What were they thinking? Plus it is highly immoral and unethical on the drug company's part to sell a drug in India, which is banned in it’s country of origin! So, two major violations took place here.”

A word of advice for patients on this medication, please do check with your doctor for substitutes.

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Re: Anti-Anxiety drug to be banned in India [Re: 5-HT2A]
    #14460504 - 05/16/11 02:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

people are such sheep now a days that theyll take anything.

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Re: Anti-Anxiety drug to be banned in India [Re: Konyap]
    #14461568 - 05/16/11 11:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Indeed.

Its all made up bollocks anyway.  Depression anxiety attention etc is stuff you have to get over on your own not take a magic pill.

Fact is anybody can be diagnosed as having these modern "disorders".  All people get depression, anxiety, attention span issues EVERY DAY.  How you deal with it is your issue.

Theres no science to base that these are actual true medical conditions that require pharmecutical treatment.

The pharms themselves are usually no better than a placebo effect.


I have experienced depression and anxiety.  I've been prescribed a range of pharms in the past and none of them worked any better than what I can do myself with meditation or just changing my behaviour.  I really believe its all made up.  yes some people are more depressed than others but they need conselling not valium.  Some people have slightly worse attention spans but they need to practice not take amphetamines.

I know a lot of people disagree but thats my honest opinion.  People really underestimate their own ability to create their mental state with their thoughts which is why these drugs are no better than placebo in independant studies.  Theres loads of pharm company funded studies that say different but of course they would as they are funding something they intend on profiting from and theres a million different ways to alter data if you are funding it.

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Re: Anti-Anxiety drug to be banned in India [Re: nice1]
    #14461656 - 05/16/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

although I do not believe "magic pills" are the answer.... Sometimes people cannot get over the pain on their own.  Anxiety medicine can help someone GREATLY, but it's not meant for being long-term help.


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Re: Anti-Anxiety drug to be banned in India [Re: danlennon3]
    #14461844 - 05/16/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Flupentixol/melitracen is the chemical combination.


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Re: Anti-Anxiety drug to be banned in India [Re: nice1]
    #14462148 - 05/16/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

nice1 said:
Its all made up bollocks anyway.  Depression anxiety attention etc is stuff you have to get over on your own not take a magic pill.

Fact is anybody can be diagnosed as having these modern "disorders".  All people get depression, anxiety, attention span issues EVERY DAY.  How you deal with it is your issue.

Theres no science to base that these are actual true medical conditions that require pharmecutical treatment.




But what if your brain doesn't have enough serotonin etc.?

I mean, even if one assumes that such disorders are way over-diagnosed, surely it is easy to believe that with the myriad ways a brain can be damaged or be created in such a way that it malfunctions (serial killers, dyslexia, epilepsy, Asperger's etc.) that a malfunction could, even likely must, exist where the mood is almost constantly lower than it really should be?

I don't see what's so challenging to belief about depression. It does seem ****ing rampant to just call any bit of hard times or not instantly-explicable low period a case of depression though. Meh.


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Re: Anti-Anxiety drug to be banned in India [Re: Diacetylmentlegen]
    #14464155 - 05/16/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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But what if your brain doesn't have enough serotonin etc.?




They don't measure serotonin, so they can't say if it's up or down. Usually they are just going off of tells and looking for weak people from whom they can steal monies... like con artists.

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Re: Anti-Anxiety drug to be banned in India [Re: lazyfingers]
    #14464853 - 05/16/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ive met people whove taken bi polar and ive either been led to beleive

they dont like it

they cant control their cursing

or they're total bitches

ive never met someone that was told they had bipolar and though they were an asshole for it, beleive me i have 3 borthers and one sis and no one tells them they are bipolar even tho they're friggen controlling fuck tards sometimes

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Re: Anti-Anxiety drug to be banned in India [Re: Diacetylmentlegen]
    #14465883 - 05/17/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Theres no scientific proof though.

Theres no baseline to measure against i.e  a "normal" person.  I do not buy all this "chemical imbalance" shit they talk about because its not scientifically proven.  There is no way of proving a subjective experience like anxiety or attention span.

Yes peoples fluctuate but does this mean they must have a mental disorder?  I don't think so.  Take babies for example, they are happy one minute, cry the next.  They cannot hold their attention.  Does this mean we should be treating them with pharms or letting them learn how to deal with and regulate their own emotions?


Thats just one side of the matter...  The other problem is that theres no way of proving the pharms are actually helping.  Again because theres no scientific baseline for a normal person and the results are subjective thus very easily manipulated by profiteers. 

Its very dodgy ground and to me and many scientists and doctors thinks its a complete mass deception and con.

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