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Yard find ID Please
    #14464302 - 05/16/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Habitat:
Yard in Southern VA, After a few days of rain. Recently fertilized yard.

Spore print color:
Coal Black

Bruising:
Bruises a dark brown


Underneath


Thanks all

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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: scubared1]
    #14464305 - 05/16/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Panaeolus foenisecii

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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: vjp]
    #14464308 - 05/16/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Got a picture of the coal black print?

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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: scubared1]
    #14464314 - 05/16/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if the spore print is JET BLACK and not just COAL BLACK then you got Panaolus cinctulus.

they realllllyyyy look like cinc s to me


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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: vjp]
    #14464323 - 05/16/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Panaeolus foenisecii




i :heart: that you said Panaeolus instead of Panaeolina :grin:


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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
    #14464345 - 05/16/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here ya go guys... Sorry I had to take a pic..


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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: scubared1]
    #14464369 - 05/16/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

id say Panaeolus cinctulus


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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
    #14464404 - 05/16/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Banded Mottlegill? Growing in my yard.. darn.. Too bad I gotta mow the grass tomorrow :shocked:

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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: scubared1]
    #14464410 - 05/16/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

pick them all before you mow


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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
    #14464436 - 05/16/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I would guess there are about 500 out there, I have to be careful because there are other species in the yard too. I will most likely print them all, the other ones Lacrameria I believe give a gold/orange print. Only way I know to pick them apart so young. I am learning though.

And the mana fell from heaven and it was good. :cool:

Edited by scubared1 (05/16/11 08:21 PM)

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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: scubared1]
    #14464460 - 05/16/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I would guess there are about 500 out there, I have to be careful because there are other species in the yard too. I will most likely print them all, the other ones Lacrameria I believe give a gold/orange print. Only way I know to pick them apart so young. I am learning though.




Lacrymaria gives a dark purple/black print. Conocybes give rusty orange prints.


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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14464473 - 05/16/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They are Panaeolina foenisecii, that print is not jet black.

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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: Byrain]
    #14464498 - 05/16/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So the only difference between the two is jet black and coal black spore print?

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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: Byrain]
    #14464504 - 05/16/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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They are Panaeolina foenisecii, that print is not jet black.




Agreed. You can see the brown where the print has smeared. Very good eye Byrain. I was thinking subbs at first.


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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: scubared1]
    #14464510 - 05/16/11 08:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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So the only difference between the two is jet black and coal black spore print?




There is no difference between jet and coal black to my eye. However, there is a difference between jet/coal black and dark/purple brown.


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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14464539 - 05/16/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That was a mistake on my part I was thinking about one I printed the other day( in a previous post of mine). And of course my noobness. Thanks for all the help guys, this stuff is fascinating to me.

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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: scubared1]
    #14464574 - 05/16/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Another thing, I was using a paper plate and I think it absorbed some of the moisture and may have dissipated some of the color. I just bought foam plates hoping I won't have that problem in the future.

Edited by scubared1 (05/16/11 08:36 PM)

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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: scubared1]
    #14464626 - 05/16/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Another thing, I was using a paper plate and I think it absorbed some of the moisture and may have dissipated some of the color. I just bought foam plates hoping I won't have that problem in the future.




Aluminum foil OR even better transparency film like what they use for overhead projectors at schools.


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Re: Yard find ID Please [Re: vjp]
    #14466685 - 05/17/11 07:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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vjp said:
Panaeolus foenisecii



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