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iamnotadream
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14465948 - 05/17/11 01:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You should've put this in Politics, or somewhere else.
You'd still get the shit posts but way lessQuote:
CaptainAhab said:
You might be right, but responding to each individual shit-post is a little much, even for me. I try to encourage mature debate, but it's often impossible to have, unfortunately.
Okay, I'll bite.
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Bombing a region will only piss off the survivors
So let's say we blow up the Middle East. Then what? Inevitably there will be survivors (you'd need an impressive bomb to leave NO survivors, and hopefully one that doesn't irradiate people for millions of years!) and these survivors are not going to rebuild their civilization and let bygones be bygones. They will continue to exist and do all in their power to plague the Empire. Oh sure, we could send our troops down there to propagate democracy and to make sure nothing gets blown up, but that's not going to stop things from getting blown up. So maybe now you'll see the bigger picture.
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akira_akuma
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: iamnotadream]
#14465957 - 05/17/11 01:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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you i***** (people), think you can decide the fate of people?
fuck, i wish i could condemn you two to a lifetime of Jersey Shore and Stephen Colbert Report.
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linkamathingy
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: akira_akuma]
#14465986 - 05/17/11 01:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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damn controlled opposition. fuck colbert and "stewart," freaking cryptojew. his brother is head of the stock exchange or something. i'm not antisemitic, but hiding that for show biz isn't very honorable.
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akira_akuma
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: linkamathingy]
#14465993 - 05/17/11 01:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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which is exactly why anyone who thinks they can decide (even through logical discourse) the fate of a person or sum of people, deserves such a fate.
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CaptainAhab


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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: iamnotadream]
#14465997 - 05/17/11 01:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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iamnotadream said: You should've put this in Politics, or somewhere else.
You'd still get the shit posts but way lessQuote:
CaptainAhab said:
You might be right, but responding to each individual shit-post is a little much, even for me. I try to encourage mature debate, but it's often impossible to have, unfortunately.
Okay, I'll bite.
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Bombing a region will only piss off the survivors
So let's say we blow up the Middle East. Then what? Inevitably there will be survivors (you'd need an impressive bomb to leave NO survivors, and hopefully one that doesn't irradiate people for millions of years!) and these survivors are not going to rebuild their civilization and let bygones be bygones. They will continue to exist and do all in their power to plague the Empire. Oh sure, we could send our troops down there to propagate democracy and to make sure nothing gets blown up, but that's not going to stop things from getting blown up. So maybe now you'll see the bigger picture.
Yeah, it would have been better as a politics post. People and the shit-posts really kept the ball from rolling.
Your post makes sense, and I agree that they wouldn't let bygones be bygones if we nuked them. Optimistically, almost, I'd like to say that today we are allies with countries we've been at war -- and bombed with nuclear weapons -- with in the past, such as Germany and Japan; but, this isn't universally applicable.
Where I see the problem in this situation, as it relates to what you said, is that fundamentally, Middle Eastern people are driven by an outdated, religious sense of right and wrong. Their foreign relations policies, individual governments, and religious ideologies are straight out of the dark ages. 1000 years ago, the way that they handle foreign relations and politics may have been up with the times. But now, when countries like Germany look back at their past, they shudder and cringe. I can't help but think that the middle east won't do the same. Times change, ya know?
America had slaves, killed Native Americans, and are guilty of terrible atrocities. But, over time, we've gotten better as the world has modernized. Which begs the question concerning the middle east, that being: will they ever wake up and realize that they were wrong, and try to make things right?
Never in 1 million years will suicide bombing, terrorism, and fascist-run governments be -- de jure -- okay, by any stretch of the imagination. Which is why I write the original post. What can we do to stop them?
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linkamathingy
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14465999 - 05/17/11 01:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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trying to control the universe is like playing with the carpenter's tools. you're bound to get cut
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14466004 - 05/17/11 01:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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HAHAHAH professor, please... you need to stop... 
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CaptainAhab


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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: linkamathingy]
#14466024 - 05/17/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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linkamathingy said: damn controlled opposition. fuck colbert and "stewart," freaking cryptojew. his brother is head of the stock exchange or something. i'm not antisemitic, but hiding that for show biz isn't very honorable.
Really? John stewart or colbert?
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linkamathingy
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14466037 - 05/17/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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CaptainAhab said:
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linkamathingy said: damn controlled opposition. fuck colbert and "stewart," freaking cryptojew. his brother is head of the stock exchange or something. i'm not antisemitic, but hiding that for show biz isn't very honorable.
Really? John stewart or colbert?
why you ask me when you have a search feature probably? two sec to figure this out. anyways... stewart. and one of his producers was in the CFR i believe. censoring douchebags, comedy central, lot of money.
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CaptainAhab


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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: linkamathingy]
#14466041 - 05/17/11 02:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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you said that they were hiding it for showbiz, so I assumed it was hidden.
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nice1
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14466045 - 05/17/11 02:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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CaptainAhab said: There's always something in the news. Why don't we bomb them?

Humanity fail.
Hey look war propaganda. Lets kill the whole planet! America fuck yeah! Comin in to save the motherfuckin day yeah indoctrinate / blow up the mother fucking world yeah !
Why don't you bomb your fucking economy? and fix that instead of murdering innocent people everywhere?
As if bombing is a solution
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linkamathingy
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14466048 - 05/17/11 02:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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CaptainAhab said: you said that they were hiding it for showbiz, so I assumed it was hidden. 
open conspiracy is the SOP. hehe.
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akira_akuma
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14466049 - 05/17/11 02:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh man, celebrity jews?!1 can they know more then they are letting on?
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CaptainAhab


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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: nice1]
#14466051 - 05/17/11 02:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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nice1 said:
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CaptainAhab said: There's always something in the news. Why don't we bomb them?

Humanity fail.
Hey look war propaganda. Lets kill the whole planet! America fuck yeah! Comin in to save the motherfuckin day yeah indoctrinate / blow up the mother fucking world yeah !
Why don't you bomb your fucking economy? and fix that instead of murdering innocent people everywhere?
As if bombing is a solution 
You came to the party late, and brought bad booze, amigo.
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akira_akuma
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: linkamathingy]
#14466054 - 05/17/11 02:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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linkamathingy said:
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CaptainAhab said: you said that they were hiding it for showbiz, so I assumed it was hidden. 
open conspiracy is the SOP. hehe.
NO@!21#$
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akira_akuma
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14466057 - 05/17/11 02:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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CaptainAhab said:
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nice1 said:
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CaptainAhab said: There's always something in the news. Why don't we bomb them?

Humanity fail.
Hey look war propaganda. Lets kill the whole planet! America fuck yeah! Comin in to save the motherfuckin day yeah indoctrinate / blow up the mother fucking world yeah !
Why don't you bomb your fucking economy? and fix that instead of murdering innocent people everywhere?
As if bombing is a solution 
You came to the party late, and brought bad booze, amigo.
you're sick of the same ol' responses? oh well, enough of the rhetorical bullshit then.
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linkamathingy
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: akira_akuma]
#14466065 - 05/17/11 02:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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linkamathingy said:
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CaptainAhab said: you said that they were hiding it for showbiz, so I assumed it was hidden. 
open conspiracy is the SOP. hehe.
NO@!21#$
wtf? lol, i made you hit your keys in anger?
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akira_akuma
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: linkamathingy]
#14466072 - 05/17/11 02:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DUH NUH NAAAAA!11

don't make me backtrace you. i won't have anyone talking out loud.
in general.
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CaptainAhab


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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: akira_akuma]
#14466075 - 05/17/11 02:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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CaptainAhab said:
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nice1 said:
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CaptainAhab said: There's always something in the news. Why don't we bomb them?

Humanity fail.
Hey look war propaganda. Lets kill the whole planet! America fuck yeah! Comin in to save the motherfuckin day yeah indoctrinate / blow up the mother fucking world yeah !
Why don't you bomb your fucking economy? and fix that instead of murdering innocent people everywhere?
As if bombing is a solution 
You came to the party late, and brought bad booze, amigo.
you're sick of the same ol' responses? oh well, enough of the rhetorical bullshit then.
You know that I've had you blocked for the last several hours, right? I haven't read anything that you've written. Don't know if I should, if it looks like this.
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linkamathingy
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: akira_akuma]
#14466077 - 05/17/11 02:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: DUH NUH NAAAAA!11

you are quite confusing. and probably drunk?
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