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CaptainAhab


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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: akira_akuma]
#14465483 - 05/16/11 11:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: fine, i'll have to shoot you myself then... where do you live?
Near Brentwood/Bel Air in Los Angeles. Just like the Fresh Prince.
you just made me want to kill you less. oh wait, fuck you! you're not the Fresh Prince. wait, sorry, scratch that...
nevermind, i still must force you to die. i don't like you.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14465536 - 05/16/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ignoring everyone who disagrees with you seems like a healthy way to refine your position.
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CaptainAhab


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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: Sleepwalker]
#14465553 - 05/16/11 11:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oweyervishice said: Ignoring everyone who disagrees with you seems like a healthy way to refine your position. 
I ignored people that posted repeated insults, or displayed a general unwillingness to engage in an adult-level debate.
I don't see anything wrong with that. Do you?
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14465576 - 05/16/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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A better solution would be to execute everyone who thinks that killing is the solution to anything.  Not that the OP will even be able to read this.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14465591 - 05/16/11 11:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ALRIGHT, TIME FOR HONEST TO GOODNESS DEBATE

LETS DO IT
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: akira_akuma]
#14465599 - 05/16/11 11:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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-------------------- ~The Cultivators Motherload~ "I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein "There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies. My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama Live long and prosper.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: Kada]
#14465603 - 05/16/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: akira_akuma]
#14465666 - 05/17/11 12:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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twighead said: Anyone who is pro- either side in that conflict can't be too bright. Fuck them both.
Not really. Israel shouldn't exist in the first place. Jews and Arabs lived peacfully together in that area long before 1948.
What? Muslims have been ethnically and religiously cleansing the Middle East long before the establishment of Israel.
You can't force a "Middle East peace" by browbeating Israel into giving up huge sections of land because the people causing the problems are not rational. Giving in to them will be (correctly) seen as weakness and will merely embolden them. It isn't all Muslims and Israel knows this.
The best thing we can do is turn the other way and let Israel handle this problem on their own. They are more than capable of doing so.
DURP.
What a compelling argument you have there, chap. I guess I'm bested. I suppose the Islamists have not been oppressing and outright exterminating Christians, Jews, and Hindus in the Middle East all this time because you were able to spout off some stupid internet meme.
I suppose the Islamists are also not oppressing whatever Christian populations are left in Egyp... oh wait, they are.
You do realize by now that all of these "Democracy" movements in the Middle East are actually Islamist revolutions (a la Iran), right? Oh: the mainstream media told you these were all "young people" with jeans, ipads, and facebook. They must be good, right? You believe that? If so then I only see one "derp" here. When did "question everything" become "sit down, shut up, and accept what is told to you"? The Middle East is on fire, in case you haven't noticed, and nothing good can come from this.
Oh, and we've managed to get ourselves into a third quagmire... over European oil... what? You believe this whole "humanitarian" malarkey? What about Syria? We going to bomb them? Speaking of this third war: I don't think I've seen any candle light vigils on my town green over it. I haven't seen any "no blood for oil" signs around; nor have I seen any "Obama lies, people die" signs. Curious. Come to think of it: I haven't seen any such going ons over Iraq or Afghanistan since Obama took the helm. Funny, that.
Why don't you do yourself a favor and look up: "big lie" and "useful idiot".
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: setb]
#14465693 - 05/17/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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blah blah, read too much shit like you... sorry.
and i never said anything of the sort... fucking fuck, i just HAD to read your post, didn't i?

big lie? heard that somewhere before... isn't that about the holocaust? oh yeah... it's about adolf malarkying around with zionist ideals.
right, yeah, we all know that too.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: setb]
#14465705 - 05/17/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What a compelling argument you have there, chap. I guess I'm bested. I suppose the Islamists have not been oppressing and outright exterminating Christians, Jews, and Hindus in the Middle East all this time because you were able to spout off some stupid internet meme.
I suppose the Islamists are also not oppressing whatever Christian populations are left in Egyp... oh wait, they are.
You do realize by now that all of these "Democracy" movements in the Middle East are actually Islamist revolutions (a la Iran), right? Oh: the mainstream media told you these were all "young people" with jeans, ipads, and facebook. They must be good, right? You believe that? If so then I only see one "derp" here. When did "question everything" become "sit down, shut up, and accept what is told to you"? The Middle East is on fire, in case you haven't noticed, and nothing good can come from this.
Oh, and we've managed to get ourselves into a third quagmire... over European oil... what? You believe this whole "humanitarian" malarkey? What about Syria? We going to bomb them? Speaking of this third war: I don't think I've seen any candle light vigils on my town green over it. I haven't seen any "no blood for oil" signs around; nor have I seen any "Obama lies, people die" signs. Curious. Come to think of it: I haven't seen any such going ons over Iraq or Afghanistan since Obama took the helm. Funny, that.
Why don't you do yourself a favor and look up: "big lie" and "useful idiot".
Very good, very true.
The Middle East is on fire. I think that with crazy, dictator-run governments and citizens that believe in Muslim-law or die, you've got a star wars inspired conglomerate Sith nemesis.
They're hiding nuclear weapons, carrying out suicide attacks, and committing acts of terrorism in the name of Allah. We need to shut them up, if you ask me. Flying body parts on fire, style.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14465708 - 05/17/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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and we are funding them... do you guys have glasses that you wear, to sift through these statements with the ability to ignore any relevant data against your rhetoric? like i could really use some of those.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14465722 - 05/17/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What a compelling argument you have there, chap. I guess I'm bested. I suppose the Islamists have not been oppressing and outright exterminating Christians, Jews, and Hindus in the Middle East all this time because you were able to spout off some stupid internet meme.
I suppose the Islamists are also not oppressing whatever Christian populations are left in Egyp... oh wait, they are.
You do realize by now that all of these "Democracy" movements in the Middle East are actually Islamist revolutions (a la Iran), right? Oh: the mainstream media told you these were all "young people" with jeans, ipads, and facebook. They must be good, right? You believe that? If so then I only see one "derp" here. When did "question everything" become "sit down, shut up, and accept what is told to you"? The Middle East is on fire, in case you haven't noticed, and nothing good can come from this.
Oh, and we've managed to get ourselves into a third quagmire... over European oil... what? You believe this whole "humanitarian" malarkey? What about Syria? We going to bomb them? Speaking of this third war: I don't think I've seen any candle light vigils on my town green over it. I haven't seen any "no blood for oil" signs around; nor have I seen any "Obama lies, people die" signs. Curious. Come to think of it: I haven't seen any such going ons over Iraq or Afghanistan since Obama took the helm. Funny, that.
Why don't you do yourself a favor and look up: "big lie" and "useful idiot".
Very good, very true.
The Middle East is on fire. I think that with crazy, dictator-run governments and citizens that believe in CAPITALISMor die, you've got a star wars inspired conglomerate Sith nemesis.
They're hiding nuclear weapons, carrying out suicide attacks, and committing acts of terrorism in the name of GOD. We need to shut them up, if you ask me. MASSIVE PROTESTS STYLE.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: akira_akuma]
#14465730 - 05/17/11 12:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: and we are funding them... do you guys have glasses that you wear, to sift through these statements with the ability to ignore any relevant data against your rhetoric? like i could really use some of those.
Funny that you mention it, I was just looking at how we funded Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war.
It's funny, almost. These people can't even get along with each other. Iraqis killing Iranians. What the fuck is that shit? Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War "The war began when Iraq invaded Iran, launching a simultaneous invasion by air and land into Iranian territory on 22 September 1980 following a long history of border disputes, and fears of Shia insurgency among Iraq's long-suppressed Shia majority influenced by the Iranian Revolution. Iraq was also aiming to replace Iran as the dominant Persian Gulf state."
Just so you know, I just supported my argument with a source. Try it out, sometime.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14465742 - 05/17/11 12:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i don't do sources acorrding to what you think is due process. i make my own conclusions based on what I SEE and not from news sources.
so fuck it... with that shit.

and btw, you make no point. so the this whole "due process" is useless to me. you prove nothing so what is the sources i should be looking for exactly?
there IS NO ARGUMENT.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: Vsnares.Zappa]
#14465747 - 05/17/11 12:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What a compelling argument you have there, chap. I guess I'm bested. I suppose the Islamists have not been oppressing and outright exterminating Christians, Jews, and Hindus in the Middle East all this time because you were able to spout off some stupid internet meme.
I suppose the Islamists are also not oppressing whatever Christian populations are left in Egyp... oh wait, they are.
You do realize by now that all of these "Democracy" movements in the Middle East are actually Islamist revolutions (a la Iran), right? Oh: the mainstream media told you these were all "young people" with jeans, ipads, and facebook. They must be good, right? You believe that? If so then I only see one "derp" here. When did "question everything" become "sit down, shut up, and accept what is told to you"? The Middle East is on fire, in case you haven't noticed, and nothing good can come from this.
Oh, and we've managed to get ourselves into a third quagmire... over European oil... what? You believe this whole "humanitarian" malarkey? What about Syria? We going to bomb them? Speaking of this third war: I don't think I've seen any candle light vigils on my town green over it. I haven't seen any "no blood for oil" signs around; nor have I seen any "Obama lies, people die" signs. Curious. Come to think of it: I haven't seen any such going ons over Iraq or Afghanistan since Obama took the helm. Funny, that.
Why don't you do yourself a favor and look up: "big lie" and "useful idiot".
Very good, very true.
The Middle East is on fire. I think that with crazy, dictator-run governments and citizens that believe in CAPITALISMor die, you've got a star wars inspired conglomerate Sith nemesis.
They're hiding nuclear weapons, carrying out suicide attacks, and committing acts of terrorism in the name of GOD. We need to shut them up, if you ask me. MASSIVE PROTESTS STYLE.
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I can live with that. Like I said, before, I don't condone violence. But, when I do, I prefer Dos Equis. Wait wait wait I've got that wrong. I don't condone violence, but when I do, I only approve of it against violent people.
If we were having the same problem with, say, the Netherlands, I'll be the first one to sit in at the protest. The problem is that these people (middle easterners) don't listen to that.
Have you heard the axiom that you can't deal logically with an illogical person? The same holds true for foreign relations, unfortunately.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14465751 - 05/17/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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CaptainAhab said: Have you heard the axiom that you can't deal logically with an illogical person? The same holds true for foreign relations, unfortunately.
Sure.
The thing is, you've made it seem like your position is that everyone in the middle east should just die so we can start from scratch.
You are aware that each person over there is an individual, right? They aren't all murderous assholes.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: akira_akuma]
#14465756 - 05/17/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i don't do sources acorrding to what you think is due process. i make my own conclusions based on what I SEE and not from news sources.
so fuck it... with that shit.

and btw, you make no point.
Akira, you can do better than that. I'll entertain a response from you if you phrase it well enough. But really, I can't make much out of what you wrote.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14465758 - 05/17/11 12:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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CaptainAhab said: I'm just sayin'
Libya- they kill their own people
Somalia- they kill everybody
Palestine, Syria- anti semitic suicide bombing fucks
Iran- crazy, nuclear weapon concealing fucks that hate everyone
Iraq- pick your favorite three of the previous lists. They all apply
Lebanon- they gave us Zankou chicken, but fuck them, anyways
Egypt- corrupt governments, killing people
Afghanistan- Osama
Kuwait- gets rich off of the rest of the world
Armenia- the Kardashian sisters
I could go on.
What's the problem with these people? There's always something in the news. We're always over there fighting. They're always fucking with Israel. It doesn't stop.
Can't we bomb them? Why don't we bomb them?
We only bomb countries with strategic value.
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14465761 - 05/17/11 12:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind. Mohandas Gandhi
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Re: Can we bomb the middle east, already? [Re: Sleepwalker]
#14465777 - 05/17/11 12:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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CaptainAhab said: Have you heard the axiom that you can't deal logically with an illogical person? The same holds true for foreign relations, unfortunately.
Sure.
The thing is, you've made it seem like your position is that everyone in the middle east should just die so we can start from scratch.
You are aware that each person over there is an individual, right? They aren't all murderous assholes.
I'll concede this one to you, and admit that it doesn't sit well with me (killing tons of innocent people). I'm not advocating that, so much as I'm trying to make a point about what potential solutions exist for dealing with the whole shitcake. And that's the problem, man. They've got women strapping 50 pounds of plastic explosives under their robes and walking into public places. Who is the enemy??
At my school, you've got young girls in head scarves scowling and spitting at white people. Former leaders of the Muslim Student Association have been convicted in terror plots, and are serving sentences in prison. The list goes on. Check this out: "“Time after time after time again, we see these terrorists — and not just fringe members: these are MSA leaders, MSA presidents, MSA national presidents — who’ve been implicated, charged and convicted in terrorist plots.”
The roll call includes Anwar al-Awlaki, the al Qaeda cleric linked to terror plots from Fort Hood to Times Square and beyond.
Awlaki, now a target for assasination by the U.S. government, was president of the MSA at Colorado State University in the mid-1990s.
Then there is Ramy Zamzam. Before his conviction in Pakistan last year for attempting to join the Taliban and kill American troops, Zamzam was president of the MSA’s Washington, D.C., council.
Omar Hammami, a leader of the al-Shabaab terrorist group in Somalia, is another MSA alum. He was once president of the group’s chapter at the University of South Alabama.
And the list goes on.
Abdurahman Alamoudi, who was national president of the MSA during the 1980s, was al Qaeda’s top fundraiser in America and is currently serving a 23-year prison sentence."
http://www.uncoverage.net/2011/03/muslim-student-association-investigation/
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