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OfflineSolomon Ash
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Sociology or psychology?
    #14461466 - 05/16/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sociologists explain behavior in terms of social phenomenon such as values, norms, traditions, and social control etc.

Psychologists tend to explain behavior in terms of personality type or individual characteristics (neurosis, birth order, subconscious factors etc).

Generally speaking, which class of explanation do you find more useful or accurate?

What about in specific situations?

Homosexuality for example- sociological or psychological?

Murder?

Drug Use?


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Re: Sociology or psychology? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #14465567 - 05/16/11 11:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

they are just different perpectives of looking at something, enither one is more useful or accurate, however i find sociology better evaluating large scale populations and psychology for individuals.

You would use pschology to find out why one person became gay but you would use sociology to understand what effects gay people have on the society


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Re: Sociology or psychology? [Re: 2deep]
    #14467260 - 05/17/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This discussion comes up a lot in my courses.  I always say the same thing: sociology and psychology should not be view as opposite, opposing ideals, but should instead be treated like two different lenses of which to filter reality. 

The best way to reconcile the two is to recognize the fact that they are both legitimate and often interact with each other.  Its all about intersectionality.


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Re: Sociology or psychology? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #14475051 - 05/18/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Solomon Ash said:
Sociologists explain behavior in terms of social phenomenon such as values, norms, traditions, and social control etc.

Psychologists tend to explain behavior in terms of personality type or individual characteristics (neurosis, birth order, subconscious factors etc).

Generally speaking, which class of explanation do you find more useful or accurate?

What about in specific situations?

Homosexuality for example- sociological or psychological?

Murder?


If you apply a viable meta-model, like Ken Wilber's AQAL (All Quadrants All Levels), you'd see that the psychological perspective - the introspective, subjective psychological perspective, that is, belongs to the Upper Left Quadrant. The Social psychological, or sociological perspective, would be relegated to the Lower Right Quadrant. There are multiple perspectives because there are multiple causal factors in any single phenomenon. I recommend that you read up on Wilber's AQAL and come to yur own conclusions, but a comprehensive, multidimensional model is necessary for the most complete understanding.



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Re: Sociology or psychology? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #14475860 - 05/18/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Psychologists... although sociologists play an important role in all of this too.


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Re: Sociology or psychology? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #14477400 - 05/19/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I tend to think that sociology is more useful for solving and understanding more of the truly big issues and problems. Psychology seems to deal with symptoms more than causes. For example, if I am a drug user, it might be helpful to say that I have parental issues, low self-esteem, or a certain personality type predisposed to drug use.

But without understanding the global flows of drugs, the social norms that frown upon drug use, the geo-political factors that make some drugs available and others not, the socialization process through which I associate with other drug users, then the analysis of me as an individual will obscure more than it reveals..


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