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OfflineSolomon Ash
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Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip?
    #14461424 - 05/16/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I am getting interested in collecting legal natural plant hallucinogens for shamanic purposes, and have already ordered Kratom.

Salvia was another obvious choice. But it seems like many people have negative experiences on Salvia. I can't recall anyone who ever said they had a really positive or enjoyable experience.

I myself have only had partial trips on salvia which were distinctly uncomfortable.

Has anyone here had a truly "positive/pleasant" experience with Salvia Divinorum?


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #14461444 - 05/16/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I never did a breakthrough dose, but the first time out of 3 is the only time it even worked for me(shitty store brand salvia.)  All I remember is taking a hit and by the time it got back around to me I was so fucked up it was hard to take another one. 

Me and my 2 buddies just laughed HARD for like 10 mins straight.  I have no idea what we were laughing at but we laughed so hard it hurt and we were drooling everywhere.  I'd say it was a great experience but that was a very light trip compared to most reports.

Since then I've tried it 2 more times and it didn't effect me at all.  I also suspect that was because it was crappy store-bought junk.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #14461506 - 05/16/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

IMO salvia is a psychedelic which requires significant experience/practice in order to have what I would consider a 'pleasant' experience. For me this involved gradually increasing the quantity consumed and experimenting with different environments.

For me, I've always gained the most from salvia when I've consumed it alone in a semi-darkened room listening to some (loud) pink floyd or shpongle :smile:

I've alsod always experienced a physical sensation that I'd describe as if the force of gravity had been increased several fold (i.e. as if your body is being pushed down through your chair), and as such I need to be lying down somewhere soft and comfortable.

Another thing to consider is coupling your salvia consumption with that of nitrous oxide (if you are confortable/willing to consume it), as I've always found it an aide in achieving a more comfortable 'break-through' experience. I'm not sure if this is a common practice, maybe others here can comment.

Best of luck :smile:


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #14461507 - 05/16/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

as far as I know kratom is not hallucigenic.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #14461525 - 05/16/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've had several positive breakthrough (and sub-breakthrough) experiences on salvia, although they've definitely been positive in quite a different way than with other drugs... its an extremely strange, bizarre trip. I'd say the best way to have a good, not terrifying breakthrough on it is to ease into it with smaller doses, so your brain has some idea of the effects before being dropped in the deep end.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: PorcupinesRevenge]
    #14461552 - 05/16/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I enjoy being back in the real world after a trip
you appreciate normality and the ability to understand what the fuck is going on

for me salvia is a novelty drug

for shits and giggles more than anyhing else


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: spazmodog]
    #14461563 - 05/16/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ive had some that were just so fucking out there that it was kind of a riot. but salvia is kind of retarded:shrug:


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: s0nny]
    #14464225 - 05/16/11 07:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've never had a good trip on salvia. I don't do it anymore though.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: bRaInMeLtErS]
    #14464285 - 05/16/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think it's got to be almost impossible to have a bad trip if you chew it, and take a small-med dose. It's very sativa like. I don't mind salvia's high, but I seem to black out after smoking a lot more than I "break through" to anything.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: maug]
    #14464331 - 05/16/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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maug said:
I think it's got to be almost impossible to have a bad trip if you chew it, and take a small-med dose. It's very sativa like. I don't mind salvia's high, but I seem to black out after smoking a lot more than I "break through" to anything.





Quid is the way to go.. if u can stand chewing on horrid bitter tasting leaf.. and plus it needs to be fresh leaf.. so most ppl dont have that option


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: maug]
    #14464340 - 05/16/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

salvia is the worst  psychedelic that i have ever experienced, if you want something that makes you feel like douche, by all means sample some 10 or 20x. you will never want to do it again after you torch your first full bowl.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: pcnubie]
    #14464358 - 05/16/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ya I would much rather invest in some san pedro or p torch cuttings..


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: amenra]
    #14464367 - 05/16/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i had some good trips on salvia. cant really explain it but i was a stamp and everybody was getting stamped out except me. FUCKING CRAZY  but you have to get like 20 extract.  the leaf just makes you ich.
They both make you feel "funny" after words.  a not good funny


salvia isnt something you want to do everyday though.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: treewood69]
    #14464444 - 05/16/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

my first attempt resulted in a breakthrough. for about an hour after i came back to reality, i was shivering and convinced that behind every surface was infinite, chilly nothingness. all i would have to do is forsake my sanity and start peeling away the edges...

i would consider doing it outside in the warm sun, or somewhere it would be hard to feel bad about life and total balls-crazy confusion


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: gabbaganchi]
    #14464463 - 05/16/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My first(and only) salvia trip was extremely euphoric.

Left me wanting more with a huge ass smile


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: mrgibblet]
    #14464550 - 05/16/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

where's the poll?


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Dragonaut]
    #14465215 - 05/16/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My first Salvia trip I had 2 bowls full of 30x, It was probably the most intense thing I have ever experienced in my life, and after it I swore off Salvia for good. About a week later, I decided I wanted to take the plunge again, and did about 3 hits of the 30x, it was very uncomfortable but after I came down I wanted to try it in a calmer environment. So I loaded the bong up again and took 2 hits and laid down, this was my first calm salvia trip, and I did this again and again during that day and felt that I had mastered the salvia trip (not actually, just so I wouldn't freak out). IMO the best way to do Salvia is to take 2 or 3 hits, then lay down in a dimly lit room, and have no external stimuli to confuse you.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: amenra]
    #14465267 - 05/16/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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amenra said:
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maug said:
I think it's got to be almost impossible to have a bad trip if you chew it, and take a small-med dose. It's very sativa like. I don't mind salvia's high, but I seem to black out after smoking a lot more than I "break through" to anything.





Quid is the way to go.. if u can stand chewing on horrid bitter tasting leaf.. and plus it needs to be fresh leaf.. so most ppl dont have that option




Not true. Rehydrate it with a little water for a couple hours in the fridge. You could also make an extraction, or put pure in jello or hard candy for a "salvia sucker" =P


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: maug]
    #14465574 - 05/16/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

dood, once i thought i would "BEAT" the salvia trip...wow was i wrong!!!! i started a shower, put on that butterfly song by crazytrain or something, got in the shower and ripped a bong load of 60x. not to mention my roomates dumb ass shower curtain, this one had big kissing lips on it!!! now anyone whos tripped this shit can only imagine the water bouncing offa you, the lips on the curtain, the staem in the shower, goddamn the list goes on and on....it was so funny, when i came down, after throwing my piece of shit cd player across the bathroom, i hear my wife in the living room..." HONEY, R U OKAY IN THERE?"! all i could do was look in the mirror, shake my head and laugh at myself...beat salvia? you fool!


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Lotus_444]
    #14465602 - 05/16/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I really only do salvia while tripping on other drugs now... for some reason the weird dysphoria seems to disappear when combo'd

it goes really well with dissociatives IMO... the best salvia trips I've ever had were on DXM :thumbup:


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: LuSiD9]
    #14465818 - 05/17/11 12:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My last experience left me apprehensive of ever dosing it again. It can be an immensely powerful and strange dissociative.

I trip sat a first-time friend who returned confused but curious. He had the courage to dose twice alone soon thereafter. In short, it's hard for me to understand how people can enjoy it on a regular basis.

Results are entirely dependent on set and setting.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Glayvin]
    #14467703 - 05/17/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, salvia is hard work. It takes a bit of courage. When things start to get strange, that means you need to smoke more :wink:


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: maug]
    #14467833 - 05/17/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well after reading this thread it confirms my thinking that people who really enjoy salvia are in the minority. I think I won't bother getting into it, even though it is legal, natural and sounds 'interesting'...


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #14468138 - 05/17/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Salvia was the first drug I tried other than weed. I've used it around 10 times and have never had a negative experience. I wouldn't say it's necessarily "fun" in the way many other psychedelics are but it's very interesting and enjoyable in its own right.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #14468145 - 05/17/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Well after reading this thread it confirms my thinking that people who really enjoy salvia are in the minority. I think I won't bother getting into it, even though it is legal, natural and sounds 'interesting'...



its definitely worth trying once:shrug:


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: s0nny]
    #14468541 - 05/17/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ive done 5x-40x and am currently under the impression that we exist in some time of matrix that salvia releases us from. From everything ive read and experienced this is my shocking conclusion to salvia usage. Everytime i get this unmistakeable sensation of the other reality being the one that is real instead of "life"....honestly im never doing it ever again.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #14468661 - 05/17/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I absolutely loved it, but then it was soon banned after I tried it, and it's super expensive.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: limestoneman]
    #14468753 - 05/17/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

a huge rip of 40x salvia kicked my fucking ass!:shocked:

i did not go into it with the respect salvinorin A deserves.

I've tried salvia about 4 times only breaking through 1 time(last) when smoking a higher X and higher quantity at once in a bong.

very tough experience, i dont hate on salvia just not an experience I want to search for again.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: AnarchyXx420xX]
    #14469001 - 05/17/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

so I've done Salvia 2 times now, the first time was a bowl of 20x which was pretty intense but just made me feel really weird and uncomfortable, and the second time was a (smaller) bowl of 40x which which a complete amnesiac HEADFUCK, and by far the scariest, most intense experience I've had on any  drug by far (my friend who hooked me up with the stuff said I was failing around and fell off the bed I was on while under the influence).

even though those two experiences were generally unpleasant, I definitely want to give the stuff a go again, preferably with a weaker extract. sadly, the stuff is illegal in the state I live in, though I'm going to college in another state this fall (Iowa) where Salvia is legal, so I definitely plan on picking some up and giving it another go. I've heard of people combining it with nitrous to good effect, so I want to give that a try.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: neur0net]
    #14469763 - 05/17/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My advice is to sit in a comfortable chair, and take a SMALL HIT to start out. That way you can feel the effects come on gradually, and if you can still form a sentence in your mind you need to take another hit.

Only take the second hit if the effects you're feeling are pleasant though.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: mrgibblet]
    #14469794 - 05/17/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have smoked salvia about 20 times and only enjoyed it 4 or 5 of those times.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: LSDylan]
    #14472104 - 05/18/11 08:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you should definatly try it.

first time i ever did it was with 40x

just go for high impact,

i dont you can really get much out of salvia unless your at least trying to break through


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #14472136 - 05/18/11 08:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have...oddly enough I have never experienced a bad trip off salvia or uncomfortable rather...but I had already had a lot of experience with shrooms and LSD before even smoking some. I used to mix the 60x with Dank sometimes it would give the weed buzz a trippy edge.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: thodub]
    #14472143 - 05/18/11 08:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i dont think ur nesserarily gona have a bad trip

just the weirdness of salvia is enough to stop most people going back for more (any time soon at least)

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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: spazmodog]
    #14472159 - 05/18/11 08:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The hallucinations you get from salvia are pretty unique...its interesting that it affects different receptor sites than other hallucinogens.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: thodub]
    #14472687 - 05/18/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Tried it twice and really didn't enjoy it either time.  It's too strong for me, with no buildup.  It's like you hit it and then you're on another world for 10 minutes.  It's very intense, and a very short duration.


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    #14482018 - 05/20/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Low-dose salvia reminds me of being really drunk and high on weed at the same time, so if you consider that fun, then you might enjoy lower doses of salvia.  I kinda wish there were a longer-lasting salvinorin molecule that could keep you high for a few hours like weed, because I think low doses of that would be kinda fun. 

High-dose salvia is, of course, just a mental clusterfuck.  I consider it a "poor man's DMT" in terms of showing psychedelic novices in one short, 5-minute searing burst of hallucinatory revelation just how fucking ridiculous the limits of possible human consciousness are.  Beyond that, I'm not sure how much you learn from it, or how much fun you can get from high-dose salvia.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Comradez]
    #14482109 - 05/20/11 12:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i LOVE salvia.

it is so fucking unique, in its own amazing way.

The only way i can even TRY to describe a salvia experience is with the word Bizarre.

By time you realize youre even tripping fucking nuts youre already coming down. For me coming down made me sad because I was enjoying it so much. The body high was so fucking intense it felt so crazy i was like aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck yeaaa :Feelstrippyman:

My body high was also intertwined with my visuals.
I felt like I was staring up into my visuals and i was inside of some sort of void and i was trying to grab "reality" and i thought i could see reality in one of the million spaces in the lattice of my visuals. Each time I "attempted" to move one of my limbs to reach for it, the "reality" part of the visuals fluctuated a ripple throughout my entire visual field. (my eyes were closed this whole time) when I opened them while coming down, I was staring blatantly at everything around me but nothing came to my mind as to of what anything was. I seriously didn't recognize ANYTHING. All I saw were colors, not shapes, or anything, nothing had form. As I came down I slowly came to realization, and everything started to make connections in my brain. Turns out the whole time I was staring my friend in the face.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: soma_seeker]
    #14482148 - 05/20/11 12:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Salvia can be an intense trip.  My friends and I went on a month long binge back in the day.  Can't say that I was very fond of it.  Very interesting though.  I would suggest doing it alone.  I always felt very uncomfortable and uneasy around my friends while I was tripping on it.  That is strange too because I usually feel very safe and at ease with my friends while tripping. I hate the taste of smoking it.  I felt dirty after coming down from it.  Between the bad taste and the odd comedown I wasn't that fond of it.  Would do it again but only in the right situation.  I've been offered it a few times in the recent past and refused as the situation wasn't right.  Wouldn't mind buying some to keep around for myself though.  Maybe after coming back home from a good show or festival tripped out alone time Hee he he.



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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: jazzaero]
    #14482650 - 05/20/11 03:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's worth trying, i have never had a bad experience but cant say i enjoy it either. I do it every now & again so i dont forget just how crazy it is :eek:


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: jamster78]
    #14482686 - 05/20/11 03:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I was always glad I did it. every time.
it has gotten strange.
I have felt evil presence.

I love low doses with goood music.
try bjork or entheogenic.


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Lotus_444]
    #24595809 - 09/01/17 11:25 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

have never tried it again...lmao


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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Lotus_444]
    #24595831 - 09/01/17 11:35 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Have you ever enjoyed a Salvia trip? [Re: Solomon Ash]
    #24597372 - 09/02/17 01:17 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Solomon Ash said:
I am getting interested in collecting legal natural plant hallucinogens for shamanic purposes, and have already ordered Kratom.

Salvia was another obvious choice. But it seems like many people have negative experiences on Salvia. I can't recall anyone who ever said they had a really positive or enjoyable experience.

I myself have only had partial trips on salvia which were distinctly uncomfortable.

Has anyone here had a truly "positive/pleasant" experience with Salvia Divinorum?




I've enjoyed several salvia trips but they were always profound experiences.


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