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fatppl12

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I have never tried mescaline.
#14458811 - 05/15/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Where would I be able to find either bridgesii or san pedro on the east coast (I live in the U.S.)
Plant nurseries?
Ordering on the internet? If so, could you link what would seem to be a legitimate source, since I have no experience with either plant..?
Moreover, how difficult is the tea process? And, how exactly would I go about doing it..
This is field I have no expertise in whatsoever, help me as I would you
Edited by fatppl12 (05/15/11 08:23 PM)
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fatppl12

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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14458884 - 05/15/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okay, I'm on google shopping now, with san pedro in the search box and there are a bunch of search results touting top-cut cactuses and others presenting full "San Pedro Cactus 20 to 24" inch Rooted Cactus". Is it as simple as adding one of these to my shopping cart and waiting for the delivery? Would the popo track the order or some shit like that?
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14458960 - 05/15/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I dont live in U.S myself but alot of home hardware/gardening stores down here sell various cacti, and usually stock some sort of Trichocereus or Echinopsis (I'm pretty sure they are Synonyms for same plants.)
Look up some pictures and familiarise yourself with some Bridgesi, Preuvian Torch, or San Pedro, and check your local nurseries for Cacti that look very similar.
As far as the tea goes i would say the hardest part is consuming it.
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you shouldn't be watched for ordering those cacti, as long as its a Botanical source not some legal high BS.
They are commonly grown just for their flowers and for show, so its more of a garden plant atm, but with the way australian laws are going they may soon be illegal in Australia.
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fatppl12

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Aw dude, thats lame. I met a bunch of you awesome aussies over in Cali this year during Coachella, you guys sure do know how to party it up!
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14459125 - 05/15/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i'll be trying my hand at an extraction in the next week, and that will be my first go with mescaline. im pretty fucking excited.
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fatppl12

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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: s0nny]
#14459192 - 05/15/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dude! That's awesome. Are you located somewhere in the the Americas as well? or Aussie?
I think I will be buying from here: Solved.
And following this tek: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_preparation1.shtml
Edited by fatppl12 (05/15/11 10:22 PM)
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14459202 - 05/15/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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fatppl12 said: Dude! That's awesome. Are you located somewhere in the the Americas as well? or Aussie?
I think I will be buying from here: http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/ethnobotanicals-pedro-cactus-c-60_77.html
And following this tek: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_preparation1.shtml
im in thr midwest.
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fatppl12

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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: s0nny]
#14459207 - 05/15/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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good luck and good travels man!
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14459237 - 05/15/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pming your solution.
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fatppl12

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You sir, are awesome.
Edited by fatppl12 (05/15/11 10:22 PM)
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AbstraKt_I_Am said: Pming your solution.
I also really want to try mescaline but don't know where to start. Could you hit me up too?
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fatppl12

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AbstraKt_I_Am said: Pming your solution.
I also really want to try mescaline but don't know where to start. Could you hit me up too?

Aw, I wish we could all just hang out, in person, as a real community, and share our wisdom.
Alas, I suppose such a utopia will always remain a distant, but fond dream.
Edited by fatppl12 (05/15/11 10:29 PM)
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fer sure, the more the merrier. a utopia.. ahh if only
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Could I get this solution as well?
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14460209 - 05/16/11 12:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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AbstraKt_I_Am said: Pming your solution.
I also really want to try mescaline but don't know where to start. Could you hit me up too?

Aw, I wish we could all just hang out, in person, as a real community, and share our wisdom.
Alas, I suppose such a utopia will always remain a distant, but fond dream.
Naw, you just gotta find the right group of people who are into this stuff. But it's hard.
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14460968 - 05/16/11 07:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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fatppl12 said:
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AbstraKt_I_Am said: Pming your solution.
I also really want to try mescaline but don't know where to start. Could you hit me up too?

Aw, I wish we could all just hang out, in person, as a real community, and get really fucked up and trade stories
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fatppl12

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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: s0nny]
#14461048 - 05/16/11 08:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Haha! Fixed like a pro.
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14461058 - 05/16/11 08:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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fatppl12 said: Aw, I wish we could all just hang out, in person, as a real community, and get really fucked up and trade stories

i do what i can
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14462330 - 05/16/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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fatppl12 said: Dude! That's awesome. Are you located somewhere in the the Americas as well? or Aussie?
I think I will be buying from here: Solved.
And following this tek: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_preparation1.shtml
Personally, I would just dry it, grind it, and capsulize it.
The shakes and extracts in general taste awful. And if you get sick, you'll never be able to use that ROA again without remembering the nausea.

EDIT: only downside is that you have to swallow a lot of capsules... not a huge deal to me, but it might be to you.
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fatppl12

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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14462435 - 05/16/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ifoundwaldo said:
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fatppl12 said: Dude! That's awesome. Are you located somewhere in the the Americas as well? or Aussie?
I think I will be buying from here: Solved.
And following this tek: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_preparation1.shtml
Personally, I would just dry it, grind it, and capsulize it.
The shakes and extracts in general taste awful. And if you get sick, you'll never be able to use that ROA again without remembering the nausea.

EDIT: only downside is that you have to swallow a lot of capsules... not a huge deal to me, but it might be to you.
Capsule method, eh? Interesting advice.
Once I get them, should I just separate the "essential" green layer from the skin & spine and sun-dry it?
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14462481 - 05/16/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I found San Pedro cactus at some big-chain home centers.
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: Doc_T]
#14463109 - 05/16/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Make your tea, that's three pulls of two or three hour boils, and then evaporate it all down to half a shot glass. Pour the thick liquid into a pyrex dish and place a fan on it for a few days. I have a dehydrator that I place on top of the pyrex for faster drying. After it drys, you can scrape it up, add a bit of flour to make it easy to handle and stuff it into gel caps. I never taste cactus anymore. Make sure to use bridgesii, one foot of it tea'd and evaporated will eventually fit into ten capsules and that is a damn strong trip.
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fatppl12

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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: joemolloy]
#14463418 - 05/16/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You just made my day.
Fuck it, you made the month.
Thanks Joe-Molly, I think I can safely say this thread has been solved.
Now, to get to work.
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14463511 - 05/16/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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To answer your question though, you generally want to remove the center white core... But it doesn't hurt to leave it in and might have a small amount of alkaloids...
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14463557 - 05/16/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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thank you for useful informations
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: joemolloy]
#14463625 - 05/16/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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joemolloy said: Make your tea, that's three pulls of two or three hour boils, and then evaporate it all down to half a shot glass. Pour the thick liquid into a pyrex dish and place a fan on it for a few days. I have a dehydrator that I place on top of the pyrex for faster drying. After it drys, you can scrape it up, add a bit of flour to make it easy to handle and stuff it into gel caps. I never taste cactus anymore. Make sure to use bridgesii, one foot of it tea'd and evaporated will eventually fit into ten capsules and that is a damn strong trip.
Sound advice.
If you are insanely patient, or have stuff to do all the time besides eat drugs you can forgo the reduction of the three boils and just evaporate the full volume of the combined teas at room temp with a fan or even put it near a heater or warm appliance.
Yeah it will take forever but you will get a brilliant sparkling yellow solid with orangey caramel colored syrupy sections in the denser regions.
Whether this approach makes a difference in potency or not is probably not that important.. Ended up with 16 capsules from about 10 to 12 inches when I tried it like this.
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Ah, are you practically saying instead of boiling - allow it to evaporate naturally, using fan or low heat? 
That sounds intense.
Nah, I'll just separate the spine & skin, toss the meat in a boiling pot of water, and go the JoeMolly route
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14463815 - 05/16/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, with a single foot of bridgesii, I leave the core. They are usually skinny anyway and you want all the goodness it has to offer. San Pedro usually has a much thicker core and I often remove it for efficiency, but don't bother with bridgessi.
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: joemolloy]
#14463828 - 05/16/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ah I see, sounds perfect seeing as the taste won't matter. The core remains!
I'll be getting 4 12inch cuttings of bridgesii, possibly 40 capsules, as long as I'm not uber messy - and you are saying 10 would be good for a solid day's of trippin'?
Edited by fatppl12 (05/16/11 06:40 PM)
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14463889 - 05/16/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ifoundwaldo said:
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fatppl12 said: Dude! That's awesome. Are you located somewhere in the the Americas as well? or Aussie?
I think I will be buying from here: Solved.
And following this tek: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_preparation1.shtml
Personally, I would just dry it, grind it, and capsulize it.
The shakes and extracts in general taste awful. And if you get sick, you'll never be able to use that ROA again without remembering the nausea.

EDIT: only downside is that you have to swallow a lot of capsules... not a huge deal to me, but it might be to you.
I'm going to disagree only because
That could be a lot of dry cactus in your stomach. Which will absorb moisture and swell up and probably be really uncomfortable in there.
Yes the extract tastes bad but if you swallow it like a pill then you have reduced the volume of substance you have to consume by a whole lot, so you'll probably be a lot less likely to vomit.
Edit: I'm talking about iso alcohol extraction, which I tried and it worked great for me. I don't recommend "tea" because it tastes really, really bad.
Edited by drr (05/16/11 06:57 PM)
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14463898 - 05/16/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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if you want an easy and effective method you can just skin it, chop the green layer only, freeze for a day, and then thaw it and blend when the day comes. I just fill the cup about half way with the green slurpy and add water, drink and repeat.
Its not that bad really and imo taste better than when boiled. As for leaving the core I would not recommend it, from my experience the skin and core make you really nauseous, but if you think you can handle it go right ahead.
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: drr]
#14463952 - 05/16/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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drr said:Edit: I'm talking about iso alcohol extraction, which I tried and it worked great for me. I don't recommend "tea" because it tastes really, really bad.
I've wondered about alcohol, why not use that for extraction?
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14463982 - 05/16/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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fatppl12 said: Ah I see, sounds perfect seeing as the taste won't matter. The core remains!
I'll be getting 4 12inch cuttings of bridgesii, possibly 40 capsules, as long as I'm not uber messy - and you are saying 10 would be good for a solid day's of trippin'?
If you are getting your cuttings where I think you are getting them, you will not be disappointed. Making a tea from one foot usually yields me about ten capsules worth of goods and eating all ten is amazing, 12-36 hours of tripping. I remember one time I took it at five in the morning and by midnight I was tripping, having all sorts of metaphorical thoughts, and woke up still tripping. It didn't really taper off until 12PM the next day. That was from an Everclear bridgesii extraction. For some reason the Everclear trips seem to last longer but have less intensity, but this is a discussion for another day in another thread.
The first few times I drank cactus I was able to get it down without heaving. Ah, the glory days. You may be able to drink it too without all the dehydrating and scraping and gelcapping. Give it a try. Eventually though, I got to the point where even smelling the tea makes me dry heave. I just developed a terrible aversion to that taste and smell. You may have cruder senses than my cultured and sophisticated tastes.
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fatppl12

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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: joemolloy]
#14464117 - 05/16/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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joemolloy said: Ah, the glory days. You may be able to drink it too without all the dehydrating and scraping and gelcapping. Give it a try.
Indeed, I may just chance it, see how I react - and move forward from there.
Still, unnecessary discomfort not need be.. So I may just pop some pills and pray I never have to taste what is apparently the most vile and nauseating of teas.
Ultimately - Imma gonna finally get some mesc up in my mind!
Again, thank you all for such accommodation.
Edited by fatppl12 (05/16/11 07:30 PM)
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: fatppl12]
#14464156 - 05/16/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, take some dramamine before ingesting the cactus. I have an iron stomach and never puke, but bridgesii sometimes makes me close to losing that highly coveted Never Puked on Any Psychedelic world record.
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: joemolloy]
#14464193 - 05/16/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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joemolloy said: Oh yeah, take some dramamine before ingesting the cactus. I have an iron stomach and never puke, but bridgesii sometimes makes me close to losing that highly coveted Never Puked on Any Psychedelic world record.
Oh boy. This is actually an achievement I thought I had attained as I messed with mushrooms, chompin' on them with delight and no nausea. So I'll take your word for it.. dramamine it is.
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: Doc_T]
#14465353 - 05/16/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've wondered about alcohol, why not use that for extraction?
Easy and cheap and gets the job done! Not pretty though. The end product looks like the resin/tar you scrape out of a pipe and tastes like super-concentrated cactus tea. Add a little flour to make it less sticky. There's a good tek somewhere around here explaining the whole process. I swallowed them in little balls with water, can't taste a thing if you're fast enough.
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: drr]
#14466322 - 05/17/11 05:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seems like it would be pretty easy to clean that tar up if you felt like it.
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Re: I have never tried mescaline. [Re: Doc_T]
#14466781 - 05/17/11 08:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seems like it would be pretty easy to clean that tar up if you felt like it.
thats what i always wondered, anybody ever tried to clean up their iso extracted cactus tar?
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