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    #14457994 - 05/15/11 06:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ok i have a ghetto ass bin going with a grow bag, the bag has been removed n just the block.. its bruising... but its ok.. it was fully colonized, n tried to initiate pinning...n jus grows more mycyliem.. some one on here want to chat with me figure this bastard out, look at pix/video of it and let me know if it is still ok.. or contam. and how to get this friggin ball rolling...pieces of the block broke off so i will prolly i guesss let it colonize more again but yea i dk. help. this chic tryina grow sum damn shrroooms


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458002 - 05/15/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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    #14458015 - 05/15/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yea me2 ... lol i got a bin goin n  it jus fukin with me i swear


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: Doc_T]
    #14458022 - 05/15/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea what?


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    #14458122 - 05/15/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: i need a PRO [Re: luluzuluwoundtdou]
    #14458236 - 05/15/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

lmao i was in a rush hah. and i can articulate like a regular human being thank you very much. i just dont care sometimes lol .


bUUUT anyway, i have a bin...SG FC minus the perlite plus a humidifier. ect ect im not getting any pins. i noticed small pins that colonized over..so i cut them out to  be sure ... its bruising from removing those pins. but other wise color seems fine a little metalic in spots but otherwise. i planned on letting re colonize a little more....but the point of this is i wasnt getting pins and by the time i noticed them they started re colonizing. .....


lol sorry about the shitty typing.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458281 - 05/15/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

1.  No perlite INSTEAD you have a humidifier (i think thats what you said) 

Ok. well i dont think its a SGFC then. 

~Some people use a humidifier WITH their perlite in a sgfc not without the perlite.


2. You cut off your pins or the mycelium that grew over them?

Dude, dont cut your cakes, or your pins, no idea why you'd do this unless your about to clone or isolate.

3. ?

Wtf is your question??, and mycelium "recolonizing" is probably a good thing, its reconfiguring itself. 


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458289 - 05/15/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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bUUUT anyway, i have a bin...SG FC minus the perlite plus a humidifier. ect ect im not getting any pins.




You have something that is not a shotgun FC and does not work.
Build a proper shotgun FC.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458291 - 05/15/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So if a carpenter doesn't have a hammer and his hand hurts after beating nails into wouod all day. Should he get a new job or a hammer?


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458308 - 05/15/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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ok i have a ghetto ass bin going with a grow bag, the bag has been removed n just the block.. its bruising... but its ok.. it was fully colonized, n tried to initiate pinning...n jus grows more mycyliem.. some one on here want to chat with me figure this bastard out, look at pix/video of it and let me know if it is still ok.. or contam. and how to get this friggin ball rolling...pieces of the block broke off so i will prolly i guesss let it colonize more again but yea i dk. help. this chic tryina grow sum damn shrroooms




I hear what youre saying you had a spawn bag, colonized it, took it out of the bag and fruiting like a block, and its not pinning just myc growth.....ok pics would help!!!!


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: mabachko]
    #14458312 - 05/15/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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So if a carpenter doesn't have a hammer and his hand hurts after beating nails into wouod all day. Should he get a new job or a hammer?




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Re: i need a PRO [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14458385 - 05/15/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ok thnaks you get it... ok. now i have read teks that use a humidifier...sdo i figured i would use that INSTEAD of perlite. considering it provides humidity on its own without the need of perlite. it is really ghetto. the way in which im doin it.. and maintaining heat...so wutever yall want think of it...muh temp is right and the humidity is 90%. ghetto style without perlitre...i may be a noob...but i do read. and i am logical. and it may not be your way or the ACTUALL way but the parameters are right none the less.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458411 - 05/15/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it would be tons less bullshit to mess with if you just made a shotgun fc with the perlite dude...seriously keep it simple humidifiers are unnecasary unless youre runnin a gh....its over kill for one block.:shrug:


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458419 - 05/15/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Not 100% sure on maintaining heat (temp maybe?), but cubes can fruit pretty darn well in the 60s, and as far as I know most people stick with mid to low 70s.

If your RH is good and your temp is good you really should be good (as long as they get plenty of Fresh Air Exchange (FAE)...If the mycelium on the cake was growing that is a GOOD sign. 

How long has your block or whatever been in the fruiting chamber?


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14458460 - 05/15/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

chic..1st of all..lol. and i did that on my FIRST try.. and the moisture DID NOT HOLD...i dont know why, or what i did wrong..perlite a few inches wet in the bottom holes all galore.. and i dont know. so i got so far with that one as to get mushrrom but they dried out basically while they were growing. so i thought this would be a much more controlled way i suppose. to keep the humidity.. i saw sum1s tek where they use like plastic coat bag that hangs in the closet .. with a humidifer hooked to ahose n flowing into it. and ect.. and i;ve read other teks that use it...so i see that using one (a humidifier) is possible..i mean i may be new but i do read and have read the different options.. and i am limited as to the method i use. so i admit i may have combined a method or two...but the bottom line is that the parameters are right heat and humidity. no signs of contam,,a lil bruising...but otherwise looks fine....so why wouldnt it work?


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458483 - 05/15/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

but are you fanning? how long do you fan and how mant times a day?


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: Elevated]
    #14458504 - 05/15/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

well tha block was in the bin, no humididfer, in the bag untill it colonized. then i removed from the bag added the humidifier.

i would say a good 2 weeks just seemed to be recolonizing....i noticed i few pins yesterday that were colonized over.. i chalked them up as aborts. and took them off. wouldnt come out broke so i 'shaved' it off so to speak...prolly wrong idea...but ive also read you can break off contam pieces of the block in an attempt to save... so i basically did that. not much very little. not all deep into it or anything. but yea because of that yesterday it is a bit bruised and i have seen ALOT of pictures to make sure...and it is just bruising.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14458557 - 05/15/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

when i walk thru the room, i grab a papper through a few fanss on it and go. along with standing there 30 or so seoncds to a minute  2-4 times a day.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458561 - 05/15/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Do you have a shift key?
And an Enter key?
And a camera?

If so, you could post some better posts and get better answers.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: Doc_T]
    #14458580 - 05/15/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Fan for longer....the moisture has to be able to evaporate off the block...cant be too wet it sounds it may be.
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    #14458584 - 05/15/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

if you can read a shift key and enter key is not needed...although it is proper...and i do have a camera, which would prove nothing more than what i have told you. but i will post pics..just refrain from commenting on how i type, or the fact that it looks ghetto...because ...i know. i got nothing to prove


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458597 - 05/15/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i know pics would help i jus be a an ass becuase people like to talk shit about how i type or the fact it looks ghetto..and all that information is not need.. all i care about are the shroooooms that are not growing lol. and everytime i take a pic i manage to get myself in it..because it built into comp..and i got in trouble last time lol. but i will try


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: Doc_T]
    #14458603 - 05/15/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Do you have a shift key?
And an Enter key?
And a camera?

If so, you could post some better posts and get better answers.




Agreed.  A picture is worth a thousand words ( or a lot fucking more here on shroomery.)  And yeah, i think cutting away the pins was a bad idea but it could still be good.

Cutting away contamination is a possible step in saving a cake (or whatever) but really its a long shot. 

2 weeks in the chamber?  (thats pretty normal, I personally just went 2+ weeks myself without seeing pins on mine.  those pins were most LIKELY good,  an abort is pretty obvious, standard looking stalk (only about 1/2 inch long) with a black cap(THEY ARE EXTREMELY POTENT.)

If your getting pins, and your mycelium is reconfiguring (growing) then really you are probably good.

One of the most important things ( along with pretty much every step in your grow) is being patient.  If growing mushrooms was as easy as baking a cake everyone would do it.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14458604 - 05/15/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thnx freak show... i will FOR SURE..i just wan it to be a successfull grow. too far into it and invested to give up and say fuk it u know.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: Elevated]
    #14458611 - 05/15/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i hear ya.. i jus got them faster last time but like said earlier the humidity wast right. ..and i think it might be too wet like freakshow said. too much humidity this time maybe. im goin to take pix now bear with me.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458664 - 05/15/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)




plastic wrap over the top to allow light...not fully covered..i actually covered it more cuz i was holdin comp over it..








the dark part.. the color aint right on cam ..its blueish..




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    #14458665 - 05/15/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Coo bose.  And yes,  too much moisture (not humidity) can have that effect ****(only using the humidifier can be the problem as its litteraly shooting water vapor into your chamber)*****


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: Elevated]
    #14458677 - 05/15/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

im jus worried about not having it wet enuff, because of the last time it wasnt.]


last time i got shrooms and they dried while growing.. ; /


so i guess im worried about it being too much not enuff and blahhhh. with the perlite it dried way to fast...but with this it wet too much...i need a happy middle..i dk the perlite works for every1 else buti had the temp thing in there when i had it it was only gettin lik 30 % or a lil more humidity



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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458688 - 05/15/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i do have a camera, which would prove nothing more than what i have told you.




If you knew what you were looking at well enough to describe it correctly you would not be posting.

Also, take the time to format your posts if you expect them to be read by anybody with experience.


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    #14458693 - 05/15/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok yeah, the pics help.  The block looks good (aside from the bruising from the cutout.)  Honestly it might still fruit if you get it back into that tub.  My suggestion at this point is to look into using some perlite in the future.  It's consistant, provides the humidity you need, and wont get your block wet.  If you dont use the humidifier youll have to mist with a spray bottle and then fan a few times a day but using only a humidifier and a tub is a dangerous game.  (most people that use only humidifiers use martha closets with bulk grows, im not very experianced in this sector but really thats the only place i find humidifers extensively used.)


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    #14458715 - 05/15/11 08:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you seem to be the only person having that big of an issue with my format..i appreciate your opinion and i take it. however, im not you. and others are answering regardless of the way in which i type so thanks.


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    #14458726 - 05/15/11 08:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

much appreciated thannkkksss..i jus want this one to grow..so im trying to figure out what i can do to adjust this. i may try to buy some more perlite but im jus worried about not havin it humid enuff, and about changin method midway through


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14458786 - 05/15/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well if no one with more experience wants to help cuz your format isnt up to code..if you must use the humidifier ive heard people running them for 15-20 min every 2 or 3 hours, but fan fan fan.Since your fc has so few holes youll need to fan quite a bit for it to be able to evap properly. Id say fan b4 turning on the humidifier and when you turn it off fan again to give a boost to evaporation between humidifier cycles. Maybe if you could add more holes-this would help.:shrug:


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    #14458805 - 05/15/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Well if no one with more experience wants to help cuz your format isnt up to code..if you must use the humidifier ive heard people running them for 15-20 min every 2 or 3 hours, but fan fan fan.Since your fc has so few holes youll need to fan quite a bit for it to be able to evap properly. Id say fan b4 turning on the humidifier and when you turn it off fan again to give a boost to evaporation between humidifier cycles. Maybe if you could add more holes-this would help.:shrug:




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    #14458842 - 05/15/11 08:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

oh i got a lot of holes....on all side including the bottom...

and i dont see how a few enters between sentences

and Shifted letters, effect people so much.


but i do have holes all over it ....









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    #14458853 - 05/15/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you. imma turn it down to a lower setting and try it on and off thing see how it goes.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14458926 - 05/15/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I didnt notice all the holes just saw top row. then id still fan b4 and after but i guess you will just have to see how much will evap off the block in a couple hours on its own and fan a little more or a little less.


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    #14458959 - 05/15/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thnxxx man. appreciate it. will do. i turned it down and i been goin in there and fanning every few mins.lol..could i set up a fan to blow.. INDIRECTLY to circulate the air. for when im at work ? can there be to much FAE?


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14459020 - 05/15/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

id say fan b4 and after humidifier cycles and once between cycles if need. you dont want to do it every few min as it could then start to dry out. Its a balance...you just have to find it. as for while at work- if you can time your humidifier cycle right before you leave 30-45 min or so before you leave then fan a little to jumpstart evap..it should be fine for even 8 hours or more...i leave mine for that long and theyre still coming up.
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Re: i need a PRO [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14459074 - 05/15/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ok im jus worried like i said about droppin humidity because i find i leave it i turn it off and it drops to around 30-50 sometimes. when i come back and check it.. seems the onlyy way its keeepin a high amount is when its on .. im going to try. tho and see if it keeps .. lol im just invested.


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    #14459116 - 05/15/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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ok im jus worried like i said about droppin humidity because i find i leave it i turn it off and it drops to around 30-50 sometimes. when i come back and check it.. seems the onlyy way its keeepin a high amount is when its on .. im going to try. tho and see if it keeps .. lol im just invested.





Yeah man, thats part of the "No Perlite" Problem, that humidifier probably jacks the humidity up big and then it probably dips real low before it comes back on while your perlite will keep it consistantly high (except at the moment your fanning which is no biggy).  You could just add some perlite AND keep your humidifier and it will probably work well.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14459117 - 05/15/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i just use the 4-5 inches of well rinsed and drained perlite and fan mist fan, the holes in the fc allow air to flow through the perlite from the sides AND bottom and brings the humid air up through into the fc. even if the top layer felt dry its still wet underneath, and you cant usually trust a hygrometer unless you spend  100 bucks on it. Trial and error is the way i learned...but i think your block will fruit nicely.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: bosebreez]
    #14459271 - 05/15/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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ok i have a ghetto ass bin going with a grow bag, the bag has been removed n just the block.. its bruising... but its ok.. it was fully colonized, n tried to initiate pinning...n jus grows more mycyliem.. some one on here want to chat with me figure this bastard out, look at pix/video of it and let me know if it is still ok.. or contam. and how to get this friggin ball rolling...pieces of the block broke off so i will prolly i guesss let it colonize more again but yea i dk. help. this chic tryina grow sum damn shrroooms




If you could articulate like an intellectual human being some people could help you. I understand what you are asking but i highly doubt anyone else is
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lmao i was in a rush hah. and i can articulate like a regular human being thank you very much. i just dont care sometimes lol .


bUUUT anyway, i have a bin...SG FC minus the perlite plus a humidifier. ect ect im not getting any pins. i noticed small pins that colonized over..so i cut them out to  be sure ... its bruising from removing those pins. but other wise color seems fine a little metalic in spots but otherwise. i planned on letting re colonize a little more....but the point of this is i wasnt getting pins and by the time i noticed them they started re colonizing. .....


lol sorry about the shitty typing.




nO PERLITE OR HUMIDIFIER=Random closed Bin you call SGFC


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: luluzuluwoundtdou]
    #14459289 - 05/15/11 09:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

LMAO rss, tru that...he does have the humidifier, but no perlite.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: Elevated]
    #14459332 - 05/15/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Keep it simple stupid. Get a lid for that thing. Add more perlite and fan a couple of times per day. My .02 cents.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: Mushaboom]
    #14459506 - 05/15/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

shhhhhhhh children. its solved go back to trolling another thread.


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Re: i need a PRO [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14461114 - 05/16/11 08:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

lmao good look freak show..ok prolly be another week untill im bak on here... hah bringin computer to muh mans.. so .. ..


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