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First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice!
    #14456427 - 05/15/11 02:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

About a month ago I started my first grow using the PF Tek for simple minds (from http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek) and have had some strange results to say the least.

From the beginning; I started using the aforementioned PF Tek and followed it exactly with the exception of the vermiculite that I used.  It was about impossible to find a stored that carried it and when I did it ended up being much finer (nearly completely ground) than the vermiculite used in the Tek.  I used spore syringes from sporestore.com, and I'm not sure if this is one of the reputable sites but at the time I was too cheap and they had the best prices it seemed. 

Anyhow I inoculated what ended up being eight glasses and then put them into my incubator which consisted of two trash cans and an aquarium heater which maintains temperatures of 78-82 degrees Fahrenheit I believe.  A few days later I began seeing my first mycelium spots in four of the jars.  A few weeks later the mycelium had advanced rapidly in two of the jars and was going pretty slow in the other two, and the rest still had no growth whatsoever. 

As of today only one jar reached 100% colonization, so I birthed, dunked and rolled, and placed this cake in my fruiting chamber, a medium sized tupperware container lined with damp perlite and with saran wrap covering it to maintain the humidity.



The first few days I was busy as hell and was only able to fan and mist at the beginning and end of the day.  I started getting a bunch of areas which showed dense pinning while other spots had and still have no pins at all. 




When the pins got big enough (but still relatively small) I noticed that a lot of them had already broken their veil, or never had one to begin with, I'm not really sure how this happened.  I figured it was something to do with the way the strain goes so I kept on doing my thing. 







These are obviously not cubies so I'm wondering if anybody can identify them - After looking through some pictures I've noticed a lot of similarities between the growth that I'm getting and the species Panaeolus cambodginiensis. 
A link to my grow log thread with said pictures: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14454472/fpart/2/vc/1

It seems like this is a close match but being a complete and total n00b I have no clue. Somebody tell me what these alien mushrooms are!!


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: Amateur_Chemist]
    #14456446 - 05/15/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Holy balls... I've got nothing to add but that if effing crazy man!


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: sum0]
    #14456458 - 05/15/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm really interested in seeing what you identifiers can figure out here.  I was reading the original post by chemist and its kinda baffling.

Supposedly these where from a GT(golden teacher) syringe and they look nothing of the sorts.  They look fairly alien like to me.


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: Elevated]
    #14456666 - 05/15/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's the flood from Halo. You guys are clueless


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #14456679 - 05/15/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Weird as hell.  Looks like you got a contam in the spore syringe or at some point during the inoculation process.


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #14456690 - 05/15/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Those look fucking nuts. I'm interested in hearing what they are also.


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: amilibertine]
    #14456697 - 05/15/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:eek:Wtf are those?:stoned:


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: Bobzimmer]
    #14456715 - 05/15/11 02:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Where is RR on this one. I'm thinking if anyone can help you it would be him.


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14456727 - 05/15/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Where is RR on this one. I'm thinking if anyone can help you it would be him.




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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14456741 - 05/15/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

they look crazy
the shroom in my sig is a Teacher


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: djnoktirnal]
    #14456929 - 05/15/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:popcorn:need a place-saver. I already said that I thought they are cubes because most mush won't fruit that prolifically on a pf cake...and the stem looks right, but what do I know? Jack shit


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14457197 - 05/15/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I see ur point on the stems padu but take a close look at the pic of the pins...their almost translucent and the caps look really really weird.  Not trying to dispute you, you are probably more expieranced than I.  I've just never seen anything quite like this.


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: Elevated]
    #14457229 - 05/15/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've never seen anything like it either, and the shape is like a tampensis, but a tampensis wouldn't fruit like that on a pf cake, without a special casing....I'm waiting, like everyone else


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14457323 - 05/15/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, i completely agree the closest thing they resemble to me is tampensis.  But like you said i thought these are ''impossible'' to fruit on cakes

EDIT: But who knows, I guess there is a first for everything right? heh maybe thats what they would look like on cakes lol.

But yeah, I havn't heard good things about the vendor these came from so it's pretty darn unlikely that they'd send you a syringe of tampensis when you ordered GT (I'm pretty sure tampensis syringes are ~Double the cost of a cube syringe.


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: Elevated]
    #14457337 - 05/15/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, i completely agree the closest thing they resemble to me is tampensis.  But like you said i thought these are ''impossible'' to fruit on cakes

EDIT: But who knows, I guess there is a first for everything right? heh maybe thats what they would look like on cakes lol.

But yeah, I havn't heard good things about the vendor these came from so it's pretty darn unlikely that they'd send you a syringe of tampensis when you ordered GT (I'm pretty sure tampensis syringes are ~Double the cost of a cube syringe.




do tampanensis not drop spores like PE's?


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: Elevated]
    #14457347 - 05/15/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well considering that the veils were all opened and almost concaved up, I decided to pick all of the mature ones off.  Most came off pretty easily and left a hard-ish white chunk (that also had some new pins on it) behind on the cake, but a few I picked all the way down to the cake and some orange/yellowishness at the very base where the stem grew out of the cake.  I tried taking pictures but my camera couldn't really capture the color.  Is this possible contam or just myc piss?


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: Amateur_Chemist]
    #14457371 - 05/15/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it's hard to say, without a picture. When I grow cubes on straw, the context of the stem is yellow, and it leaves a yellowish spot where I pull it off. Mexicana mycelium oftentimes is bright yellow, was the cake completely white when you birthed it? Notice any blueing on those ones you picked?


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: Amateur_Chemist]
    #14457382 - 05/15/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe some really fucked up enoki (Flammulina velutipes)?


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: Amateur_Chemist]
    #14457385 - 05/15/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

just going to clear this up quick the spelling is tampAnensis  (not sure if these ARE tampanensis) . we missed an A lol.

As far as I know they produce normal dark purple spores.  They are just a rare from of mushroom that was only collected by a single person in the wild one time.  So I'm guessing thats where the cost comes from.  That AND that it's a sclerotia forming fungus...aka the Philosopher's stone.

EDIT: It's said that all spores are originated from the originally picked species!!! pretty fucking cool if you ask me


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Re: First Time PF Tek & unknown species - Pan cam perhaps?? Need an experts advice! [Re: Elevated]
    #14457392 - 05/15/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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just going to clear this up quick its tampAnensis. we missed an A lol.

As far as I know they produce normal dark purple spores.  They are just a rare from of mushroom that was only collected by a single person in the wild one time.  So I'm guessing thats where the cost comes from.  That AND that it's a sclerotia forming fungus...aka the Philosopher's stone.




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