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need some advice
    #14455696 - 05/15/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

okay so im new to the world of mushroom cultivation and id love some help from the pros. i just bought a grow kit and i was wondering if ican use pre pasturized horse dung alone as a medium for my B+ everywhere i go people are using mixtures and its confusing for a noob like myself.so can i use only this dung as my cake from inoculation to fruit? any help is appreciated!


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Re: need some advice [Re: shroomznbud]
    #14455737 - 05/15/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

im no pro, but if you want to make cakes get vermiculite and brown rice flour. than look up pf tek on here and read read read.


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Re: need some advice [Re: TheDrake]
    #14455739 - 05/15/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What kit did you get? Whats included?


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Re: need some advice [Re: TheDrake]
    #14455753 - 05/15/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

PF looks good but if im not mistaken shrooms love dung for the nutrients so is there a way to make use of it in thecakes? i mainly ask because i already bought it and dont want a 5 lb bag of shit laying around.


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Re: need some advice [Re: Wing]
    #14455754 - 05/15/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I guess some kits work well but IMO their like topsy turvy infomercials,  Grow 10 lb tomatos without doing shat!

Like drake said I'd suggest doing a lot of reading on the forums here, look up PF Tek (BRF Cakes.)


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Re: need some advice [Re: shroomznbud]
    #14455765 - 05/15/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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PF looks good but if im not mistaken shrooms love dung for the nutrients so is there a way to make use of it in thecakes? i mainly ask because i already bought it and dont want a 5 lb bag of shit laying around.




LMAO, yeah you could make use if it by doing BRF cakes and then crumbling the cakes to colonize another substrate.  But really your trying to save a 5 lb bag of shit thats well, just a bunch of shit.  Not hard to come by heh.


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Re: need some advice [Re: Wing]
    #14455766 - 05/15/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

its a mini kit for my first grow and has a humidifier/ air intake, light and inoculation jars pre sterilized and i ordered the pasturized dung for the next batch


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Re: need some advice [Re: shroomznbud]
    #14455781 - 05/15/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

reading up as we speak im also thinking of dunk and roll but if not i could just mist the cakes often right?


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Re: need some advice [Re: shroomznbud]
    #14455786 - 05/15/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So you need to make your own fruiting chamber im guessing?  Also did the kit come with spores?


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Re: need some advice [Re: shroomznbud]
    #14455825 - 05/15/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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reading up as we speak im also thinking of dunk and roll but if not i could just mist the cakes often right?




The dunk is pretty important because the cakes use up a lot of moisture when the mycelium colonizes, simply misting the cakes isnt going to hydrate the cakes like a dunk would.  Misting helps keep the cakes moist and (more importantly) gets water on the cakes that will then evaporate (inducing pinning.)

try not the skip the dunk if you do brf cakes...the roll isnt absolutely neccisary but if you have the verm do it.


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Re: need some advice [Re: Elevated]
    #14455928 - 05/15/11 12:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

okay so far this is what i plan to do, take colonized brf cakes dunk then crumble them onto a layer of horse dung. then another layer of dung, wait to colonize,(all in grow kit container samewhat small plastic)im hoping this will work as a fruiting chamber since i have the humidifier and light built in. once colonized mist daily and add light a few hours a day possibly 12.correct me if any of this sounds wrong or stupid lol i am a noob at all of this.


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Re: need some advice [Re: shroomznbud]
    #14455969 - 05/15/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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its a mini kit for my first grow and has a humidifier/ air intake, light and inoculation jars pre sterilized and i ordered the pasturized dung for the next batch




So it came with mason jars filled with grain and pre-sterilized?  In that case, I might skip the BRF cakes and just knock up the grain.


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Re: need some advice [Re: Puzzled]
    #14456181 - 05/15/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Shounds about right bud.  But yeah, like puzzled asked, if the kit came with pre-steralized jars/w substrate in them you could go ahead and use those to innoc and colonize to the dung.


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Re: need some advice [Re: Elevated]
    #14456292 - 05/15/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thanks guys but yea im sure the pre made jars will do fine ill be using brf on second grow but yes pre sterilized jars


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Re: need some advice [Re: shroomznbud]
    #14456551 - 05/15/11 02:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

another question..how would i go about the dunk tek if im going to crumble and layer withdung?could i maybe just add some water to the dung and crumbled substrate?


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Re: need some advice [Re: shroomznbud]
    #14456610 - 05/15/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Not exactly sure on that..personally I dont crumble my cakes (yet.)  I'd recommend just dunking in water for 12-24 hours and then crumbling, its probably the easiest step in the entire mushroom growing process. heh.


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Re: need some advice [Re: Elevated]
    #14456646 - 05/15/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

how bout a link to the site where said kit was procured?


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Re: need some advice [Re: shroomznbud]
    #14456806 - 05/15/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

LOL doesn't the DVD tell u how to do this?


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Re: need some advice [Re: shroomznbud]
    #14456856 - 05/15/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

all i have to do is submerge in cold water for 12 to 24 hrs then take out rinse then proceed to crumble right? all these dunk tek posts seem over complicated..dvd is a summery of how to use what is procided for you im trying to make better use of a good product instead of 3 cakes id like to have the entire container floor growing shrooms


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