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stomach pain and puking, why?
    #14455510 - 05/15/11 10:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The other day I decided to dive into my dried Ovoid stash. I ate a smallish amount, about 2 grams. Now, Ovoids usually cause me a little more stomach pain than cubes. I always get some stomach pain, but this time it was very bad. I was curled up in my girl's bed for like 20 minutes. I usually do have a stage where I don't want to move and have nausea while coming up, but it was alot worse. Then the pain gradually dissipated as they digested and I proceded to trip pretty well (always amazes me how visual Ovoids are). Anyway, the trip was winding down some hours later and I decided to drink a beer. Aparently this was a mistake, I got about halfway through the beer and my nausea returned. I ended up puking twice. I know that they were all Ovoids, I picked them and checked them out, I know what Ovoids are/look/smell like. They all bruised. My friend did pick some, but I checked out all of them dried them myself. I can't really figure why I reacted that way. It had been a long time since I tripped or ate any shrooms, but, wtf.

I think maybe it was because I accidentally left a couple caps printing for two days under glasses and they weren't 100% dry when I ate them. Plus I dropped a little water on the caps, so maybe they grew a mold/bacteria? Perhaps they grew in something unpleasant and picked up traces? (This seems unlikely, I found them in a rather rural place in the woods). Or maybe there was some bacteria/mold growing on them in the woods that is not obvious to the naked eye? I have read that even morels and other edibles should be cooked pretty well, but unfortunately that destroys psilocybin. I did rinse them in a half assed way.

Can anyone help me figure this one out?


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #14455523 - 05/15/11 10:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sure your fine, you've never posted any ovoids that I thought looked suspect.  Some people just have bad reactions to Psilocybe's sometimes.  My best friend gets sick and pukes every time he eats them. 

I feel bad for him, I got an irongut.  I never puke from anything but alcohol.


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: amilibertine]
    #14455535 - 05/15/11 10:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I hope it was just like the "shock to the system" factor, it's been about a year since I ate them and they did come straight from the forest. I felt fine the next day, barely even a trip hangover. I'm getting a little cold now but I'm fairly sure that's unrelated.


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #14455548 - 05/15/11 10:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

For nuns like me "oviods"?
Sorry to b a dummy


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #14455559 - 05/15/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like mold contamination

Could always be one wrong mushroom.... You should be ok.


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
    #14455576 - 05/15/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: HarryL]
    #14455584 - 05/15/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you know my gf always pukes every time she eats, whether its libs, cyans or cubes. i never have from Psilocybes and i always drink beer with them.

but this similiar to what i am going thru.
this year i aquired an allergy for Stropharia rugosoannulata. i ate them tons of times last year and loved them, this year they give me runny bum for a few days and stomache upset for a few as well. i tried some from a wild patch, then a few days ago i thought, well maybe i just had a flu and i ate some cultivated ones from my garden. still the same thing happened.


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #14455597 - 05/15/11 10:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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you know my gf always pukes every time she eats, whether its libs, cyans or cubes. i never have from Psilocybes and i always drink beer with them.

but this similiar to what i am going thru.
this year i aquired an allergy for Stropharia rugosoannulata. i ate them tons of times last year and loved them, this year they give me runny bum for a few days and stomache upset for a few as well. i tried some from a wild patch, then a few days ago i thought, well maybe i just had a flu and i ate some cultivated ones from my garden. still the same thing happened.



Man, that would be so fucking unfortunate if I developed an Ovoid (or even worse) psilocybe allergy :thumbdown:.

I usually don't puke, just get stomache upset in the begining, and I can usually drink on them too, which is why I think maybe mold/bacteria. I really don't think I mis IDed one, I'm pretty meticulous, especially about a subject as potentially dangerous as this. I am human though, it is possible I ate one disguised stranger.

I'm not too worried about being poisoned TOO bad though, I know the poisonous species around here pretty well (at least any that even remotely resemble Ovoids).


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: falcon]
    #14455599 - 05/15/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The bad toxins, AFAIK, don't cause effects for at least 4-6 hours. Could this reaction have been part of your trip?


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: Hygrocybe]
    #14455679 - 05/15/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's pretty hard to misidentify an ovoid. I throw away anything that doesn't bruise because they all pretty much will.


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: mylfgur]
    #14455738 - 05/15/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You know how you shouldn't eat coprinpsis atromentaria/insigne and drink? I think that it is something like this, but is a reaction to some other food/nutrient in your system. I say this because I extract my mush in everclear, but sometimes it still makes my belly hurt, even though there couldn't be any bacteria in there after 3 hours in 150f alcahol. Sometimes it don't hurt my belly:shrug:it's impossible to pinpoint the trigger, but if I have something to think about, I don't tend to get it


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: mylfgur]
    #14455742 - 05/15/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've had the same thing happen to me after not eating any active for about a year, then chowing down about 25g of fresh baeocystis. I checked up on the patch a few days later and all of the caps had some sort of mold/bacteria growing that you couldn't see the previous days. I'm sure you'll be fine, just not the best way to start off a trip. Hope it was just a one time thing.


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14455882 - 05/15/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I might throw out the others that I got from that place, in case they do have some contaminant, it was not pleasant, I was pretty much fine (and definitely tripping) in between the initial nausea and me drinking that beer.

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Could this reaction have been part of your trip?



That is possible, since I have had some extra mental baggage here lately, but I kind of doubt it because the trip was actually pretty nice, and only when I drank the beer did i actually puke. I got some cold chills altering w/ warm sensations mixed w/ sweats, and some tingling between my 2 puking episodes, but it only happened for a minute, and it was right when I was very paranoid about being poisoned because I was still tripping.

It was pretty scary for me, though probably much scarier for my girl cause she is pretty ignorant about shrooms. She was so scared I ate poisonous shit and I was gonna die, I had to stay chill and explain that if the symptoms last we'll call an ambulance or something.


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I extract my mush in everclear



I've had a prolonged interest in extracting psilocin, but never done it. Sounds like a pretty good idea after this episode though.


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Of dreams that wave before the half-shut eye,
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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #14455890 - 05/15/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it's highly recomended by me. Everclear is cheap, and drinking 1 shot and tripping balls in 10 minutes is way easier tha eating 5 grams and waiting for an hour


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14455930 - 05/15/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Chitin perhaps?  Panaeolus cinctulus makes me quite sick if I don't turn them into tea.  Was puking my guts out the next day from 4 grams dried.


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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: Byrain]
    #14456074 - 05/15/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ohhhh
ok thanx fer link
I'll stick to my nub no pukiness
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Re: stomach pain and puking, why? [Re: Byrain]
    #14456078 - 05/15/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

maybe you have an ulcer or something?:shrug:


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