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Legal drug known as bath salts can have dangerous effects
    #14454160 - 05/14/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.yumasun.com/news/-69958--.html

After snorting a designer drug known as “bath salts,” a local 17-year-old — referred to in this article as John — became highly paranoid and agitated. He was convinced someone was trying to kill him.

“I got a call from his girlfriend — screaming — saying, ‘You need to get here right away,'” said the boy's mother, referred to in this article as Anne Griffin to protect her son's identity.

“I went to where he was and he was very paranoid and thought people were watching him. He had binoculars and he said he had to kill somebody if they jumped over the fence. He made absolutely no sense, so I called 911 because I didn't know if my son was in a psychotic state.”

That is when Griffin first learned of the existence of “bath salts.”

“Then his girlfriend told me he had used ‘bath salts.' She said they had been using it on the weekends and it gives you a high and makes you euphoric and happy.”

“Bath salts,” sold under such brand names as Ivory Wave or Vanilla Sky, can easily be obtained at most area liquor stores and smoke shops. The Yuma Sun was able to purchase the substance from a local liquor store recently for $15 without any problem or delay.

According to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, “bath salts” can contain the drug methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV), as well as mephedrone. Both are synthetic central nervous system stimulants similar to methamphetamine and cocaine.

“Bath salts” can be eaten, smoked, snorted or injected. The high produced is akin to that of cocaine, meth or Ecstacy, the DEA reported.

“‘Bath salts' have nothing to do with a spa or relaxation or anything like that,” said Ramona Sanchez, DEA special agent and public information officer.

“When people buy it at the store, at a wink of the eye they know it is not going to be used for a bath.”

Because it is marketed with a label stating “not for human consumption,” it is able to skirt around drug laws and remain technically legal.

It has to be intended for human use to become a federal violation. Only then could it be considered an “analog” imitation drug, which can be considered illegal, Sanchez explained.

“Right now there is not a whole lot on the state side of enforcement,” said Sgt. Clint Norred, Yuma Police Department public information officer. “There are a couple of codes we could probably apply in very specific circumstances.”

Those include causing a criminal nuisance or imitation drug charges, he said.

“These are very rarely used. It would have to be specifically outlined for us to use something like that.”

Making “bath salts” even more attractive is the fact there are currently no drug tests to detect it in a user.

That made it impossible for Griffin to know John was abusing the drug even though she instinctively knew something was terribly wrong.

“He wasn't going to school — he was ditching. He was always a good student and athlete, but he quit his athletics, so of course I suspected drug use. I took a urinalysis test and it was negative because ‘bath salts' do not show up.”

Then suddenly, within minutes of hearing about “bath salts” for the first time, Griffin had to rush her son to the emergency room after the psychotic episode.

“The hospital doctor didn't even know what the heck I was talking about,” she said.

But before they could treat him, John decided to run away from the ER as fast as he could.

“I ran after him with the ER nurse,” Griffin said. “I was literally jumping fences, but by then we lost him. We couldn't find him for two days. He totally disappeared.”

He came home two days later and slept for two days, Griffin said. She then took him to a psychiatrist, who had to scramble to learn about the drug in an effort to help him stay sober.

It didn't work and John soon relapsed. Griffin received another phone call from John's girlfriend, who said he was driving 120 mph on the highway with his eyes closed.

Griffin raced out to the Foothills area, where John was at, to confront him.

“He was psychotic again and I couldn't get him in the car with me to go to the hospital,” Griffin said, adding she feared he might have overdosed and was on the verge of death.

“I called 911 and an ambulance responded. He took off running through the desert and we couldn't find him for another day again.”

By now, John hadn't slept, eaten or drank anything in three days, Griffin said.

“When we found him, he still refused to go to the hospital. He looked bad. I took his blood pressure — it was 220 over 120 with a pulse of 176 and his heart rate was very irregular.”

Griffin, a trained nurse, knew her son needed immediate medical attention, “but he kept refusing so I actually called the police.”

When an officer arrived, John tried again to flee. As a result, more police were called in to handle the situation.

“Pretty soon there were 10 cop cars there and it took over 10 people to hold my son down,” Griffin said.

This time around, with the help of police, John was taken to the hospital and treated. He has not abused “bath salts” since, his mother said, but now might suffer from permanent pulmonary hypertension caused by the drug.

“My son now has high blood pressure and has to be on medication for it.”

In addition to medical problems, John, a senior at Gila Ridge High School, may not get to graduate this month with his fellow classmates.

“It made him just blow off everything in life,” Griffin said. “All drugs do that to people, but this drug — you can walk in the store and buy it.”

Fortunately, incidents such as the one concerning John have not yet become a common occurrence in the Yuma area, Norred said. However, YPD is aware of the substance and is keeping close watch.

For now, even though the drug remains available, the DEA is looking into the matter, Sanchez said.

“I can tell you it has sounded our alarms. The DEA has labeled this a drug of concern. For us, there is a lengthy process to restrict these types of designer chemicals, including reviewing the abuse data. We need to gather all that data and start to collect it, and this could be a very lengthy process.”


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Re: Legal drug known as bath salts can have dangerous effects [Re: 5-HT2A]
    #14454204 - 05/14/11 11:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I heard these are real bad, a friend of mine almost died cause of them


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Re: Legal drug known as bath salts can have dangerous effects [Re: 5-HT2A]
    #14454747 - 05/15/11 03:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's sad that people would abuse a substance like that. I truly hope that young man learned his lesson and wont ever touch any type of drug again. But let's face the facts and the real world. The DEA and we know that they can't make everything single thing that gets a person out of the normal mind set or "high" illegal. I'm not trying to stand up for this product at all I'm just done hearing about only the negative side of every single drug including this one. First this "bath salt" isn't that new anymore and the DEA has still not made a nation wide banned or any type of banned at that. Now some states have stepped in and made it illegal. But lets look at the facts in the article. First the kid is a minor so he shouldn't have it in the first place but whatever we can let that slide like any other time. It never says the total amount he consumed,the amount in a period of time or at once,anytime frame at all,the milligrams which is stated on the package,or even if the minor mixed it with anything else. Obviously the minor didnt want help so that shows he has a prior/current drug problem and its obvious the minor is already in the late stages of addiction doing everything in his power to avoid everything and everyone but the "drug" bath salt. I've never done the substance myself but I've conducted studies and research and have seen people under the influence and it is very noticeable even the first time the person is under the influence of this substance you can be or average joe or below that level and still notice the person is acting strange. I don't understand how almost anyone can recognize someone speeding,not being able to speak normal, being scared paranoid, or any simpler signs, but this person couldn't recognize his/her own child who you see everyday acting different the slightest? And those are just a few things left out. Now like I said I'm not trying to make this substance sound okay or anything close to that I'm just saying its not all the "DRUGS" like we hear almost all the time. Its the people who cant control themselves or cant limit themselves thats how a substance become se a drug. Think about if no one would of abused it like people are doing I wouldn't even be writing this. We all pay will pay for this law to get passed. Gotta love idiotic people and taxes


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Re: Legal drug known as bath salts can have dangerous effects [Re: Thebusinessman3]
    #14455416 - 05/15/11 09:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

There is nothing positive about this drug, it's fucking dangerous. My friend is in a recovery place because of this shit.


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Re: Legal drug known as bath salts can have dangerous effects [Re: Thebusinessman3]
    #14455526 - 05/15/11 10:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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“It made him just blow off everything in life,” Griffin said. “All drugs do that to people,




I was nearly a straight "A" student and only missed 4 days of high school. I now have a well paying job and raise 3 kids, and very well at that and have been doing drugs since I was 13.  Keep up the good work of being an idiot like the media wants you to be.

This parent is shit! Its something deeper inside of the family life that has caused this. Where is the dad?  She probably left him for another man. Bitch! Notice how as soon as he supposedly quit athletics she suspected drugs. Well...of course.. it had to be drugs.

Its funny how, like when someone dies, you hear " how good of a student they were and how much they loved everyone" when in reality they were a huge douche and only did things like this when they were in front of the crowd to make face.  This is a psychological fact, in order to relieve the trauma you make up shit to help it go away. 

Maybe this girl he was with was the culprit. She had been doing them with him for some time from what she stated. I believe that the kid has been doing what others have wanted him to do for most of his life. Always afraid of what someone is going to say if he wasnt this thing.  She got him to use the drugs because her life is empty and needed something to fill that void.  Being her man and to make her feel better about her shitty self, started doing the drug with her. Then all that suppressed self came out with a vengence, hence the paranoia and avoiding the help. Not to mention the obvious lack of trust with her giving him a drug test.  This is the worst thing you can do to your child.

Drugs are bad if you make them bad. Plain and simple.


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Re: Legal drug known as bath salts can have dangerous effects [Re: DoDahDay]
    #14458088 - 05/15/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"Legal drug known as alcohol can have dangerous effects."

"Legal drug known as nicotine can have dangerous effects."

"Legal drug known as tylenol can have dangerous effects."


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Re: Legal drug known as bath salts can have dangerous effects [Re: nasem]
    #14459646 - 05/15/11 10:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

bath salts are crazy shit. there's a lot  of shit I've done and want to do but these definitely aren't one of them


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