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Offlinehyperjump69
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pan cinc?
    #14451096 - 05/14/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I am getting better at this. This was collected out of my yard today. We planted new grass last year and spread hay around to help with the seed. Found this one and noticed black around the pick site. I'm fairly certain of what it is...just need a second opinion. Thanks for the time.



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Re: pan cinc? [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14451108 - 05/14/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Spore print?


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: piggy]
    #14451128 - 05/14/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

not yet. waiting now. definitely black spore's on grass all around.


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14451131 - 05/14/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I am getting better at this. This was collected out of my yard today. We planted new grass last year and spread hay around to help with the seed. Found this one and noticed black around the pick site. I'm fairly certain of what it is...just need a second opinion. Thanks for the time.






The mottling on the gills points a bit more towards cinctulus, but there's no reddish bruising, so I think it may be a foe.

Spore prints shall tell all ...

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not yet. waiting now. definitely black spore's on grass all around.



:orly:

Could you get a macro picture of it? That'd help, man. Seriously, that points in the direction (alongside the presence of hay) of subbs man. WATER YOUR YARD!!!!!

EDITEDIT: Also, nice gill shot. :thumbup::thumbup:


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14451240 - 05/14/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

MY CAMERA SUCKS FOR MACRO. However, I did get a slight print and it is definitely BLACK...I know the diff when I did my foe prints...(brown)..this is black. Definitely cinc. Right?


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14451249 - 05/14/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

if youre print is black black jet black black then you got Panaeolus cinctulus. :cheers:


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14451251 - 05/14/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I guess so.


Wouldn't hurt to eat it in any case.


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
    #14451274 - 05/14/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ok. regarding my Pan cinc's...how many does it take to "do my thing"? or in other words, what's the recommended doseage?


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14451290 - 05/14/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

well depends on things. like how hard you wanna trip, body weight, tolerance, etc. theres a dosage calculator somewhere on this site to give you a general idea. and also whether or not they will be dry or fresh. last time i ate cinctulus i ate bout 3 grams and was just fine.


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14451305 - 05/14/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You can check the dosage calculator on this site: http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator

You want to enter Pan Subb for Pan Cinc, same thing.


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: Gravity]
    #14451462 - 05/14/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

is cinctulus known to have a translucent-striate margin?

i would have guessed maybe Panaeolina foenisecii or Psathyrella


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: The Thinker]
    #14451483 - 05/14/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Shots of the stem might help more with getting a definite identification down. Either way, you would need like 30-50 wet grams to feel something from pan cincts. That single guy only weighs ~a gram wet.


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: mylfgur]
    #14451507 - 05/14/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Anecdotal reports from the PNW state that eating fresh Pan.Cinctulus can cause stomach cramps, malaise, and loss of muscular strength. (Stamets, 1996 Pg.80)

Stamets, Paul. 1996. Psilocybin mushrooms of the world Ten speed press Pg.80



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Re: pan cinc? [Re: The Thinker]
    #14451518 - 05/14/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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is cinctulus known to have a translucent-striate margin?

i would have guessed maybe Panaeolina foenisecii or Psathyrella




No its not.


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: The Thinker]
    #14451521 - 05/14/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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is cinctulus known to have a translucent-striate margin?

i would have guessed maybe Panaeolina foenisecii or Psathyrella





It's the mottling pattern on those gills which is making me think Panaeolus

Looks like mine


That question about the cap margin is a good one 'cause I know of no instance of this happening.

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is cinctulus known to have a translucent-striate margin?

i would have guessed maybe Panaeolina foenisecii or Psathyrella




No its not.





Things aren't as clearly cut as you're thinking/stating. You might be surprised how much mushroom morphology can vary with environmental conditions.


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14451543 - 05/14/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Ieponumos said:
Quote:

The Thinker said:
is cinctulus known to have a translucent-striate margin?

i would have guessed maybe Panaeolina foenisecii or Psathyrella





It's the mottling pattern on those gills which is making me think Panaeolus

Looks like mine


That question about the cap margin is a good one 'cause I know of no instance of this happening.

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The Inner Eye said:
Quote:

The Thinker said:
is cinctulus known to have a translucent-striate margin?

i would have guessed maybe Panaeolina foenisecii or Psathyrella




No its not.





Things aren't as clearly cut as you're thinking/stating. You might be surprised how much mushroom morphology can vary with environmental conditions.





Very true... But what youre sayng is that im right.  99.00% of the time.


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: The Inner Eye]
    #14451566 - 05/14/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

The Inner Eye said:
Quote:

Ieponumos said:
Quote:

The Thinker said:
is cinctulus known to have a translucent-striate margin?

i would have guessed maybe Panaeolina foenisecii or Psathyrella





It's the mottling pattern on those gills which is making me think Panaeolus

Looks like mine


That question about the cap margin is a good one 'cause I know of no instance of this happening.

Quote:

The Inner Eye said:
Quote:

The Thinker said:
is cinctulus known to have a translucent-striate margin?

i would have guessed maybe Panaeolina foenisecii or Psathyrella




No its not.





Things aren't as clearly cut as you're thinking/stating. You might be surprised how much mushroom morphology can vary with environmental conditions.





Very true... But what youre sayng is that im right.  99.00% of the time.




:lolsy: It's all good! You must admit Thinker does have a point about the margin, though. Upon him bringing up the notion I realized I've never really observed such a pileus on a Pan, but there's a first time for everything!


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: The Thinker]
    #14451593 - 05/14/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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is cinctulus known to have a translucent-striate margin?

i would have guessed maybe Panaeolina foenisecii or Psathyrella




Not really.  I guess its a Psathyrella.


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #14451631 - 05/14/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Psathyrella grows on dead wood. This was in the yard. I have looked up ALOT of pics of Pan cinc and it is EXACTLY what they show. Plus the BLACK spore print is a definite. DAMN I'm good!


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Re: pan cinc? [Re: hyperjump69]
    #14451721 - 05/14/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Psathyrella grows on dead wood. This was in the yard. I have looked up ALOT of pics of Pan cinc and it is EXACTLY what they show. Plus the BLACK spore print is a definite. DAMN I'm good!



Dead wood can be buried under dirt. There are more than one species of mushroom that has a black spore print and grows in yards.


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