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LSD must be nearly impossible to make.
    #14450412 - 05/14/11 10:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

All current instances of LSD, are not good enough. Regardless of dosage, they fail on experience. Literally I'm under the impression only the World's best chemists can even come close to making LSD on the same quality level as previously experienced before 1995-1996. Ironically due to the low cost, demand and actual skill required to create LSD; no true LSD exists on the market. Given the complex nature and most likely, undocumented actual process of creating LSD; it will never be created on the same level unless something drastic happens soon. The process will be lost forever and the drug will cease to exist in the coming future given the current degradation of the product and lack of superior product.

On a side note, does anyone know who actual paid Hofman's salary in 1940-1945? If only this happened in todays World; it would have been so easy to confirm the US Governments involvement in the funding of LSD for military applications and other World Powers. While you can argue this statement, as I have no "factual" evidence; I am very psychic and know this to be true. If we could just leave it at that I'd appreciate it. Of course this will spark outrageous debate. But this is more then true. You cannot deny the first paragraphs. It is more then likely that the actual process of creating LSD is undocumented or it really just takes one of the World's best chemists to actual create LSD; as clearly stated in the first 2 paragraphs.

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450427 - 05/14/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Salomon]
    #14450430 - 05/14/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi] * 2
    #14450435 - 05/14/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I would argue that you have an elementary understanding of chemistry at best.
I would also argue that you likely lack the proper connections to obtain quality LSD.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi] * 1
    #14450438 - 05/14/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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iluvfungi said:On a side note, does anyone know who actual paid Hofman's salary in 1940-1945?




Hoffman was an employee of Sandoz Laboratories. He was studying ergot to see if a drug could be developed to improve breathing.

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: HipsterDoofus]
    #14450456 - 05/14/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I thought he was working on a drug that induced labor when he discovered acid.

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: HipsterDoofus]
    #14450462 - 05/14/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

OP here's a rough idea on  the difficulty in making LSD
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6558877/Drugs-Uncle-Fester-Practical-LSD-Manufacture


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450484 - 05/14/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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All current instances of LSD, are not good enough. Regardless of dosage, they fail on experience.




I am just guessing but I have a feeling there are a lot more people in it than say the 90's that are all about the buck. So if you don't have a good connection you are getting watered down LSD. So that "140mic" dose is probably a lot less than that.

I have not seen any in, well forever so, like I said a guess. But a friend of mine kind of says the same thing. 5 today is not what 5 was then.

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Salomon]
    #14450489 - 05/14/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There are several Tek's on this site alone on how to synthesize LSD.  Getting the precursors is really the only thing stopping any basement chemist from making it.

I also doubt it will disappear in any amount of time.  IMO, it's more likely to gain popularity than lose it these days.

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Newbie]
    #14450492 - 05/14/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I thought he was working on a drug that induced labor when he discovered acid.



It was a combination of both.
"The main intention of the synthesis was to obtain a respiratory and circulatory stimulant (an analeptic) with no effects on the uterus in analogy to nikethamide (which is also a diethyl amide) by introducing this moiety to lysergic acid."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Hofmann#Discovery_of_LSD


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #14450502 - 05/14/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

orange peels and toothpaste, dawg :dontspillme:


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450509 - 05/14/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

there's real acid all over the place, of course it's a "special" chemical so it'll get better when times get better and worse when times get worse.  don't worry, i think we'll have fire doses surfing the nation in due time :cool:


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: 4runner]
    #14450512 - 05/14/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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All current instances of LSD, are not good enough. Regardless of dosage, they fail on experience.




I am just guessing but I have a feeling there are a lot more people in it than say the 90's that are all about the buck. So if you don't have a good connection you are getting watered down LSD. So that "140mic" dose is probably a lot less than that.

I have not seen any in, well forever so, like I said a guess. But a friend of mine kind of says the same thing. 5 today is not what 5 was then.



I would agree that most today are in it for the money.

It's sad really.

I get irate when I hear people talking about thumbprints and families as if they are still in practice today. Furthering the illusion that the people distributing quantity still uphold morality over profit. :nonono:


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Salomon]
    #14450518 - 05/14/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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OP here's a rough idea on  the difficulty in making LSD
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6558877/Drugs-Uncle-Fester-Practical-LSD-Manufacture




I argue that all current literature on creating LSD is falsified and lacking in complete procedure, methodology. The illusion that it is easy to create, even by a capable chemist, is absurd. Likewise most of the information regarding Hofman's career is falsified.

The statement "I lack the proper connections to get LSD;" is outrageous. Globally, their is no LSD which has the same quality as previously. The incredulous statement that you specifically do, is ridiculous and purely egotistical.

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Acaterpillar] * 4
    #14450520 - 05/14/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

stay tuned for op's next thread. Women Must Be Nearly Impossible To Please. brought to you by The Folks That Fail The Hardest. :hi:

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi] * 1
    #14450533 - 05/14/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The statement "I lack the proper connections to get LSD;" is outrageous. Globally, their is no LSD which has the same quality as previously. The incredulous statement that you specifically do, is ridiculous and purely egotistical.



:rolleyes:
What is even more egotistical is your assumption that you have an esoteric, and omniscient awareness of the LSD market, worldwide.

Please provide some reputable evidence, besides the fact that you get booboo Lucy from shitty connections.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450543 - 05/14/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Best LSD I ever got was some random WoW from a friend that he got some from random hippie at a festival.

As soon as I took my first hit I could immediately feel liquid electricity flowing throughout my veins.

Two hits would have you surfing the tides of the netherworld :awecid:

And to think that fool had a whole sheet of that and pretty much sold all of it...if I had known how good it was before he left I would have bought it all...

Now if only I could 'cid that good again lol, practically impossible I suppose

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi] * 1
    #14450552 - 05/14/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Also if you want anyone to find your logical deductions credible, you shouldn't say something like:
"While you can argue this statement, as I have no "factual" evidence; I am very psychic and know this to be true. If we could just leave it at that I'd appreciate it."

Making assumptions that go against the common knowledge of the user population, and then justifying the claims with such statements is just asking to be ridiculed.

I'm not flaming you, I'm criticizing your logic.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450553 - 05/14/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Salomon said:
OP here's a rough idea on  the difficulty in making LSD
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6558877/Drugs-Uncle-Fester-Practical-LSD-Manufacture




I argue that all current literature on creating LSD is falsified and lacking in complete procedure, methodology. The illusion that it is easy to create, even by a capable chemist, is absurd. Likewise most of the information regarding Hofman's career is falsified.

The statement "I lack the proper connections to get LSD;" is outrageous. Globally, their is no LSD which has the same quality as previously. The incredulous statement that you specifically do, is ridiculous and purely egotistical.



what? it seems that you thought i was tryin to say making LSD is easy? did you read that link i posted? it's not easy and i never said it was easy, but it's also not impossible if you have an extensive background in advanced chemistry. also, obviously there are still chemists that are producing LSD so to say that they are using "incomplete" instructions is absurd.

as for hofmann's career, i don't know enough to argue a point :shrug:


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #14450562 - 05/14/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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stay tuned for op's next thread. Women Must Be Nearly Impossible To Please. brought to you by The Folks That Fail The Hardest. :hi:



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stay tuned for op's next thread. Women Must Be Nearly Impossible To Please. brought to you by The Folks That Fail The Hardest. :hi:



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