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LSD must be nearly impossible to make.
    #14450412 - 05/14/11 10:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

All current instances of LSD, are not good enough. Regardless of dosage, they fail on experience. Literally I'm under the impression only the World's best chemists can even come close to making LSD on the same quality level as previously experienced before 1995-1996. Ironically due to the low cost, demand and actual skill required to create LSD; no true LSD exists on the market. Given the complex nature and most likely, undocumented actual process of creating LSD; it will never be created on the same level unless something drastic happens soon. The process will be lost forever and the drug will cease to exist in the coming future given the current degradation of the product and lack of superior product.

On a side note, does anyone know who actual paid Hofman's salary in 1940-1945? If only this happened in todays World; it would have been so easy to confirm the US Governments involvement in the funding of LSD for military applications and other World Powers. While you can argue this statement, as I have no "factual" evidence; I am very psychic and know this to be true. If we could just leave it at that I'd appreciate it. Of course this will spark outrageous debate. But this is more then true. You cannot deny the first paragraphs. It is more then likely that the actual process of creating LSD is undocumented or it really just takes one of the World's best chemists to actual create LSD; as clearly stated in the first 2 paragraphs.

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450427 - 05/14/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Salomon]
    #14450430 - 05/14/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi] * 2
    #14450435 - 05/14/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I would argue that you have an elementary understanding of chemistry at best.
I would also argue that you likely lack the proper connections to obtain quality LSD.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi] * 1
    #14450438 - 05/14/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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iluvfungi said:On a side note, does anyone know who actual paid Hofman's salary in 1940-1945?




Hoffman was an employee of Sandoz Laboratories. He was studying ergot to see if a drug could be developed to improve breathing.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: HipsterDoofus]
    #14450456 - 05/14/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I thought he was working on a drug that induced labor when he discovered acid.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: HipsterDoofus]
    #14450462 - 05/14/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

OP here's a rough idea on  the difficulty in making LSD
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6558877/Drugs-Uncle-Fester-Practical-LSD-Manufacture


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450484 - 05/14/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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All current instances of LSD, are not good enough. Regardless of dosage, they fail on experience.




I am just guessing but I have a feeling there are a lot more people in it than say the 90's that are all about the buck. So if you don't have a good connection you are getting watered down LSD. So that "140mic" dose is probably a lot less than that.

I have not seen any in, well forever so, like I said a guess. But a friend of mine kind of says the same thing. 5 today is not what 5 was then.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Salomon]
    #14450489 - 05/14/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

There are several Tek's on this site alone on how to synthesize LSD.  Getting the precursors is really the only thing stopping any basement chemist from making it.

I also doubt it will disappear in any amount of time.  IMO, it's more likely to gain popularity than lose it these days.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Newbie]
    #14450492 - 05/14/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I thought he was working on a drug that induced labor when he discovered acid.



It was a combination of both.
"The main intention of the synthesis was to obtain a respiratory and circulatory stimulant (an analeptic) with no effects on the uterus in analogy to nikethamide (which is also a diethyl amide) by introducing this moiety to lysergic acid."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Hofmann#Discovery_of_LSD


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #14450502 - 05/14/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450509 - 05/14/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

there's real acid all over the place, of course it's a "special" chemical so it'll get better when times get better and worse when times get worse.  don't worry, i think we'll have fire doses surfing the nation in due time :cool:


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: 4runner]
    #14450512 - 05/14/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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All current instances of LSD, are not good enough. Regardless of dosage, they fail on experience.




I am just guessing but I have a feeling there are a lot more people in it than say the 90's that are all about the buck. So if you don't have a good connection you are getting watered down LSD. So that "140mic" dose is probably a lot less than that.

I have not seen any in, well forever so, like I said a guess. But a friend of mine kind of says the same thing. 5 today is not what 5 was then.



I would agree that most today are in it for the money.

It's sad really.

I get irate when I hear people talking about thumbprints and families as if they are still in practice today. Furthering the illusion that the people distributing quantity still uphold morality over profit. :nonono:


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Salomon]
    #14450518 - 05/14/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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OP here's a rough idea on  the difficulty in making LSD
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6558877/Drugs-Uncle-Fester-Practical-LSD-Manufacture




I argue that all current literature on creating LSD is falsified and lacking in complete procedure, methodology. The illusion that it is easy to create, even by a capable chemist, is absurd. Likewise most of the information regarding Hofman's career is falsified.

The statement "I lack the proper connections to get LSD;" is outrageous. Globally, their is no LSD which has the same quality as previously. The incredulous statement that you specifically do, is ridiculous and purely egotistical.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Acaterpillar] * 4
    #14450520 - 05/14/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi] * 1
    #14450533 - 05/14/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The statement "I lack the proper connections to get LSD;" is outrageous. Globally, their is no LSD which has the same quality as previously. The incredulous statement that you specifically do, is ridiculous and purely egotistical.



:rolleyes:
What is even more egotistical is your assumption that you have an esoteric, and omniscient awareness of the LSD market, worldwide.

Please provide some reputable evidence, besides the fact that you get booboo Lucy from shitty connections.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450543 - 05/14/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Best LSD I ever got was some random WoW from a friend that he got some from random hippie at a festival.

As soon as I took my first hit I could immediately feel liquid electricity flowing throughout my veins.

Two hits would have you surfing the tides of the netherworld :awecid:

And to think that fool had a whole sheet of that and pretty much sold all of it...if I had known how good it was before he left I would have bought it all...

Now if only I could 'cid that good again lol, practically impossible I suppose


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi] * 1
    #14450552 - 05/14/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Also if you want anyone to find your logical deductions credible, you shouldn't say something like:
"While you can argue this statement, as I have no "factual" evidence; I am very psychic and know this to be true. If we could just leave it at that I'd appreciate it."

Making assumptions that go against the common knowledge of the user population, and then justifying the claims with such statements is just asking to be ridiculed.

I'm not flaming you, I'm criticizing your logic.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450553 - 05/14/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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OP here's a rough idea on  the difficulty in making LSD
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6558877/Drugs-Uncle-Fester-Practical-LSD-Manufacture




I argue that all current literature on creating LSD is falsified and lacking in complete procedure, methodology. The illusion that it is easy to create, even by a capable chemist, is absurd. Likewise most of the information regarding Hofman's career is falsified.

The statement "I lack the proper connections to get LSD;" is outrageous. Globally, their is no LSD which has the same quality as previously. The incredulous statement that you specifically do, is ridiculous and purely egotistical.



what? it seems that you thought i was tryin to say making LSD is easy? did you read that link i posted? it's not easy and i never said it was easy, but it's also not impossible if you have an extensive background in advanced chemistry. also, obviously there are still chemists that are producing LSD so to say that they are using "incomplete" instructions is absurd.

as for hofmann's career, i don't know enough to argue a point :shrug:


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #14450562 - 05/14/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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stay tuned for op's next thread. Women Must Be Nearly Impossible To Please. brought to you by The Folks That Fail The Hardest. :hi:



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stay tuned for op's next thread. Women Must Be Nearly Impossible To Please. brought to you by The Folks That Fail The Hardest. :hi:



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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Salomon]
    #14450572 - 05/14/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Bingo.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #14450573 - 05/14/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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iluvfungi said:
The statement "I lack the proper connections to get LSD;" is outrageous. Globally, their is no LSD which has the same quality as previously. The incredulous statement that you specifically do, is ridiculous and purely egotistical.



:rolleyes:
What is even more egotistical is your assumption that you have an esoteric, and omniscient awareness of the LSD market, worldwide.

Please provide some reputable evidence, besides the fact that you get booboo Lucy from shitty connections.




Perhaps you are correct, yet I am also correct. The point of the matter is the mass majority of LSD on the market is not passing. Thus your comments are far more egotistical then mine.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450577 - 05/14/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

And theres still good product around man. You've just got to find it.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14450585 - 05/14/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it's just gotta find you

damn this dude 10 minutes bike ride down the street from me is constantly hooked up with good blotter, and idk if he's "family" but he's fucking in it as shit with grateful dead type folks so...yaaa


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450602 - 05/14/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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iluvfungi said:
The statement "I lack the proper connections to get LSD;" is outrageous. Globally, their is no LSD which has the same quality as previously. The incredulous statement that you specifically do, is ridiculous and purely egotistical.



:rolleyes:
What is even more egotistical is your assumption that you have an esoteric, and omniscient awareness of the LSD market, worldwide.

Please provide some reputable evidence, besides the fact that you get booboo Lucy from shitty connections.




Perhaps you are correct, yet I am also correct. The point of the matter is the mass majority of LSD on the market is not passing. Thus your comments are far more egotistical then mine.



It takes an ego to strike an ego.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi] * 3
    #14450604 - 05/14/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

iluvfungi I'm not trying to be an asshole here but I'm seriously saying this out of concern.  I think you need to lay off all drugs.  You're relatively delusional at baseline and drugs just push you over the edge.  The last thing you need is a strong dose of LSD..

Do you have a diagnosis for whatever is wrong with you?  If not, I think you should see a doc.  If so, I think you should take your meds.

Once again, not trying to be an asshole but there's no way to go about it without sounding like one.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #14450609 - 05/14/11 11:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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iluvfungi I'm not trying to be an asshole here but I'm seriously saying this out of concern.  I think you need to lay off all drugs.  You're relatively delusional at baseline and drugs just push you over the edge.  The last thing you need is a strong dose of LSD..

Do you have a diagnosis for whatever is wrong with you?  If not, I think you should see a doc.



It does almost seem as though mild delusions of grandeur.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #14450627 - 05/14/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I get irate when I hear people talking about thumbprints and families as if they are still in practice today. Furthering the illusion that the people distributing quantity still uphold morality over profit. :nonono:




Naturally morality and profit are mutually exclusive.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: g00ru]
    #14450639 - 05/14/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have noticed acid has a strange way of making it into the right hands normally.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14450643 - 05/14/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, for many people finding great acid is srsly effortless. it's a very powerful substance, i totally think it exerts a magnetizing influence of a sort.  law of attraction, etc.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Heffy]
    #14450650 - 05/14/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Perhaps you are correct, yet I am also correct. The point of the matter is the mass majority of LSD on the market is not passing. Thus your comments are far more egotistical then mine.




What an ignorant thing to say.
I can get superb LSD relatively easily.

I bet he never had actual family LSD because he isn't in his mid 50's-60's, and so has no point of reference for claiming that the quality of today's LSD is inferior.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Heffy]
    #14450660 - 05/14/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I never had family acid either due to the time in which I was conceived, but I am confident that there is still blotter that is distributed at the ~200ug range (confirmed by lab), though it is very rare to come by.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Heffy]
    #14450674 - 05/14/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

here's my theory:

best acid ever: '67-'69

steadily gets worse starting with orange sunshine acid in '71, which was that shit they were claiming was ald-52. To me this is the beginning of a decline in the acid, due to the worsening energetic climate (it was made illegal, and the orange sunshine stuff was the first huge batch to be made during those illegal, paranoid times).

keeps getting worse and harder to find through the 80's i assume

then, probably beginning very late 80's and hitting its stride in '91, along with that hard to pin down gen-X movement and whatnot, acid comes back a bit. alongside raves and all that.

been getting worse ever since then...maybe. definitely around 2000 i don't think there was a huge acid scene going on, or at least any scene that existed was fairly stagnant. I actually think in recent years it's been coming along just fine.  I know that it's a hell of a lot easier to find acid at my high school now than when i attended it (my little bro describes how all his friends drop a shit ton of acid.  in my day, there really weren't any huge acid heads, just people like me that had experimented with it).

I think in 2012 we'll see another chapter begin to unfold in acid


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: g00ru]
    #14450703 - 05/14/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think the implications of the discovery of LSD have been largely overlooked.

The consensus reality regarding drugs is changing though, I can see it all around me.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: g00ru]
    #14450711 - 05/14/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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here's my theory:

best acid ever: '67-'69

steadily gets worse starting with orange sunshine acid in '71, which was that shit they were claiming was ald-52. To me this is the beginning of a decline in the acid, due to the worsening energetic climate (it was made illegal, and the orange sunshine stuff was the first huge batch to be made during those illegal, paranoid times).

keeps getting worse and harder to find through the 80's i assume

then, probably beginning very late 80's and hitting its stride in '91, along with that hard to pin down gen-X movement and whatnot, acid comes back a bit. alongside raves and all that.

been getting worse ever since then...maybe. definitely around 2000 i don't think there was a huge acid scene going on, or at least any scene that existed was fairly stagnant. I actually think in recent years it's been coming along just fine.  I know that it's a hell of a lot easier to find acid at my high school now than when i attended it (my little bro describes how all his friends drop a shit ton of acid.  in my day, there really weren't any huge acid heads, just people like me that had experimented with it).

I think in 2012 we'll see another chapter begin to unfold in acid



i think that you hit the nail DIRECTLY on the head with this post.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Newbie]
    #14450726 - 05/14/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I thought he was working on a drug that induced labor when he discovered acid.




He was working on isolating medicinal chemicals from ergot, for anything from inducing labor to migraines, when he discovered the psychedelic angel. :sainthofmann:


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14450778 - 05/14/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The statement "I lack the proper connections to get LSD;" is outrageous. Globally, their is no LSD which has the same quality as previously. The incredulous statement that you specifically do, is ridiculous and purely egotistical.



:rolleyes:
What is even more egotistical is your assumption that you have an esoteric, and omniscient awareness of the LSD market, worldwide.

Please provide some reputable evidence, besides the fact that you get booboo Lucy from shitty connections.




Perhaps you are correct, yet I am also correct. The point of the matter is the mass majority of LSD on the market is not passing. Thus your comments are far more egotistical then mine.



not that I have flawless skill with English language or anything,but shouldn't a "psychic" that is genetically altering plants with his mind and aware of the acid market and stock trade know the difference between "then" and "than"? not to flame,but you insult everyone else's intelligence quite a bit,or used to do so(been offline a bit lately).You never seem to question your own though.

as for the acid ordeal,there are still chemist out there from way back when...the only one I am aware of keeps batches only for close people he cares about and doesn't really profit from it...there are just simply too many people not looking hard enough or making the right friends,and that is why they can't find anything....it is a black market,not supposed to be simple for everyone.Not everyone with a gift is willing to let the public know.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #14450820 - 05/14/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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iluvfungi I'm not trying to be an asshole here but I'm seriously saying this out of concern.  I think you need to lay off all drugs.  You're relatively delusional at baseline and drugs just push you over the edge.  The last thing you need is a strong dose of LSD..

Do you have a diagnosis for whatever is wrong with you?  If not, I think you should see a doc.



It does almost seem as though mild delusions of grandeur.




Hah, if some men did not have huge ego's this World would SUCK. With the EGO of Bill Gates, Steve Jobs you would not have personal computers. Without the EGO of George Washington you wouldn't have a USA. Without the EGO of Larry Elison you would not have Enterprise Resource Solutions globally. The list goes on and on.

Of course this comes with a price. The pressure of contesting the mass majority, is often somewhat difficult to deal with. As an extremely creative individual, I am seen often as dangerous; as my brain process is quite different then most individuals. Even those who have large egos, often lack the radical nature of my creativity index. I'd like to see someone who was an ego as large as mine, who actually has nearly the creativity I have; for one most likely does not exist.

I very much enjoy my creativity and find it an internal part of how I interpret reality. Without it, I'd have no way to deal with the absurd nature of current societal existence; the lack of superior civilization of which is the future. Many other creative individuals have expressed their disdain for today's society; Orbitals album "snivilisation" says it all. Many musicians, being genius philosophers in albeit a different form of communication, often are mostly ignored by the mass majority as most individuals of this World clearly seem to lack intellect. Ironically I argue that at least this forum confirms higher intelligence growing amongst the mass majority of the World Population.

While some of you see me as a "credible" threat, which is clearly understandable given specific events in my past history, I clearly promote advanced civilization. Often I might have a triad of anger, given the lack of advancement in this World and due to the problems I incur with this World. Regardless my plans are moving forward. I'm not going to go into the "mental" powers I possess, my ability to influence and control this World via means of telepathy, psychic-ness, law of attraction and just being heard via advanced means of communication Globally.

While you might think the things I want are often outrageous, I am directed by a higher power often; as you are. I'd clearly argue that 40% of my actions, thoughts are not under my direct control. This is clearly because of my importance, inate power and influence to this World. If one think creating more geniuses globally is a bad thing, which is something I directly want and is directly occurring now; I'm not sure what to say. In order for this World to survive and accomplish the next set of directives for the future, significant change must occur with the society.

For instance their is a cure for HIV/AIDS relatively speaking now. What about the social / economic implications of eliminating HIV/AIDS? This increases the amount of children created globally; which the World cannot sustain. Thus, once HIV/AIDS is officially cured, a new virus must take it's place; given the current lack of this World's ability to handle a sustained growth increase of human beings. In the future an Airborne virus will kill billions of people, 20-30% of the global population; which is directly required for life to exist on a mass majority. At least personally I prefer an Airborne virus to World War; which is a bio-chemical war; which financially is more difficult.

H1N1 is just the beginning. Ironically the airborne virus targeted the group of individuals who multiple rapidly and cannot sustain their growth. Such as HIV/AIDS originally did an amazing job at controlling the population of Africa; as it clearly is completely uncivilized. Regardless, neither Africa nor Asia can support themselves in the future; much less Africa today. I'll admit, I wanted an airborne virus to kill people; I'm not sure who or what actually created H1N1. Perhaps it was created by my me; by the power of my mind. Clearly I must be more specific in the variables of what I directly want. Instead of wanting an airborne virus that kills people, I must want a airborne virus that kills 20-30% of the globally population, to mutate rapidly, not be cured for a decade and to continue killing at least 1-2% of the globally population annually. As this is strictly required for continued existence for the human species on planet Earth.

Oh yah and I guess I might as well name this one. Coming soon to a town near you, globally. How about the name; HANDI. Oh and be assured, this one kills all races equally. Sorry about H1N1. But rest assured, failure is not an option now. The fate of the World is in our hands.... may you never know who or what we truly are.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14451036 - 05/14/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Many musicians, being genius philosophers



:lol:

I agree with the general notion of what you're saying, but I think you're too convinced that you are somehow special, or further progressed from the rest of the population. Your work is pretty good, but there are thousands of other people with equal an equality of creative pieces who are no more and no less special than you are.

You are psychic in the manner that we are all psychic as a species.
Maybe you've spent more time strengthening your mind to wield it's abilities, and it was possibly easier for you than others, but that doesn't make you special, because there are many many others who have done the same, and the possibility is available to everyone.


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    #14451066 - 05/14/11 12:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

wait, OP thinks he's actually a psychic?


i'm thinking of a number between 1 and 10, name it:ifyoucanawe:


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14451143 - 05/14/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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OP here's a rough idea on  the difficulty in making LSD
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6558877/Drugs-Uncle-Fester-Practical-LSD-Manufacture




I argue that all current literature on creating LSD is falsified and lacking in complete procedure, methodology. The illusion that it is easy to create, even by a capable chemist, is absurd. Likewise most of the information regarding Hofman's career is falsified.

The statement "I lack the proper connections to get LSD;" is outrageous. Globally, their is no LSD which has the same quality as previously. The incredulous statement that you specifically do, is ridiculous and purely egotistical.




Sounds like you've bought a lot of bunk acid.

There's good acid all around, just no one wants to sell it to someone who they know is schizophrenic.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: propensity]
    #14451162 - 05/14/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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H1N1 is just the beginning. Ironically the airborne virus targeted the group of individuals who multiple rapidly and cannot sustain their growth. Such as HIV/AIDS originally did an amazing job at controlling the population of Africa; as it clearly is completely uncivilized. Regardless, neither Africa nor Asia can support themselves in the future; much less Africa today. I'll admit, I wanted an airborne virus to kill people; I'm not sure who or what actually created H1N1. Perhaps it was created by my me; by the power of my mind. Clearly I must be more specific in the variables of what I directly want. Instead of wanting an airborne virus that kills people, I must want a airborne virus that kills 20-30% of the globally population, to mutate rapidly, not be cured for a decade and to continue killing at least 1-2% of the globally population annually. As this is strictly required for continued existence for the human species on planet Earth.



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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Salomon]
    #14451170 - 05/14/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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wait, OP thinks he's actually a psychic?







you've clearly been missing out...he apparently a being of many unnatural abilities.maybe Bashar's cousin?:lol:

"I'm not going to go into the "mental" powers I possess, my ability to influence and control this World via means of telepathy, psychic-ness, law of attraction and just being heard via advanced means of communication Globally. "

I think it would help us to better understand your claims if you would for once go into vast detail...not knocking you,but extraordinary claims should be explained if you want to be taken seriously....which you do apparently.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14451245 - 05/14/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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H1N1 is just the beginning. Ironically the airborne virus targeted the group of individuals who multiple rapidly and cannot sustain their growth. Such as HIV/AIDS originally did an amazing job at controlling the population of Africa; as it clearly is completely uncivilized. Regardless, neither Africa nor Asia can support themselves in the future; much less Africa today. I'll admit, I wanted an airborne virus to kill people; I'm not sure who or what actually created H1N1. Perhaps it was created by my me; by the power of my mind. Clearly I must be more specific in the variables of what I directly want. Instead of wanting an airborne virus that kills people, I must want a airborne virus that kills 20-30% of the globally population, to mutate rapidly, not be cured for a decade and to continue killing at least 1-2% of the globally population annually. As this is strictly required for continued existence for the human species on planet Earth.





I think the first people who die from this should be the ones who want it.  And why wait?

And, no, musicians are not genius philosophers.  They are mostly self indulgent jerk offs, like all artists.  Useless except for entertainment.


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    #14451320 - 05/14/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If OP has these powers why doesn't he make some good cid come his way:confused:? I'm sure If you can influence the world like you say you can you can score some good stuff.


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    #14451369 - 05/14/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If OP has these powers why doesn't he make some good cid come his way:confused:? I'm sure If you can influence the world like you say you can you can score some good stuff.














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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #14451452 - 05/14/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Salomon]
    #14451731 - 05/14/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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wait, OP thinks he's actually a psychic?


i'm thinking of a number between 1 and 10, name it:ifyoucanawe:




Well I wound't waste my time usually... with something so trivial as a single person. Most likely you will just change the number as well. Also it works much better if I force the individual to choose the number first, then reveal to them which number I actually choose; but they think they choose it.

at first I thought 7, but I think 2.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14451741 - 05/14/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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wait, OP thinks he's actually a psychic?


i'm thinking of a number between 1 and 10, name it:ifyoucanawe:




Well I wound't waste my time usually... with something so trivial as a single person. Most likely you will just change the number as well. Also it works much better if I force the individual to choose the number first, then reveal to them which number I actually choose; but they think they choose it.

at first I thought 7, but I think 2.




Why do you ignore the questions asked of you?

IF you have the power to change the world with your mind, why can't you make good cid come to you?


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    #14451775 - 05/14/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i guess you just ain't family bro

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    #14451788 - 05/14/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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wait, OP thinks he's actually a psychic?


i'm thinking of a number between 1 and 10, name it:ifyoucanawe:




Well I wound't waste my time usually... with something so trivial as a single person. Most likely you will just change the number as well. Also it works much better if I force the individual to choose the number first, then reveal to them which number I actually choose; but they think they choose it.

at first I thought 7, but I think 2.






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    #14452061 - 05/14/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Family? I'd rather not associate myself with such nonsense. And my point should be clear, why do I need to associate myself with X group to get X product? It should be readily available everywhere; such as it used to be. Such a product which is quite easily made by such a person of high esteem and knowledge can easily create quad trillions of effective doses in a relatively short time period. Not to such as flood the market, but to offer a superior product would easily eliminate such inferiority in the marketplace. This is straight up business and marketing philosophy as we know it. Product superiority is highly effective at eliminating competitors. Look at Asian cars and European cars; they DESTROYED America car companies due to their inferior designs. Might I add why in the hell is the Impala so heavy? An Audi, Mercedes, Acura or any competitors car actually has technology as to make a lighter car which is equally as strong. The only reason that piece of shit is created is the need for the ever growing Police force in America; imprisoning citizens for no particular reason other then financial gain. Ever noticed how much money is involved in the criminal justice system; from Bail, to court fee's, lawyers the only justice served in none at all. Pay the pigs be brought to justice, and slain by the hands of many. May Ron Paul bring this country back to it's routes.

As such manipulating a single persons mind is extremely boring. How do I know I can manipulate one person? I tested it once; after that I no longer had the desire to do so consciously; automatically is preferred or as deemed necessary, in specific frames of time. When one is used to manipulating the entire World for his whole life; such small associations are trivial. My primary interests are macroeconomics, philosophy, psychology, the World sustaining itself, future technologies aka advanced civilization and history. Ironically, I use history predominately to judge the human race in terms of not a pathetic measure such as growth (seems all the current predominating of the species cares about) but technological advancement, sustained and responsibility across the board amongst human beings. Currently the entire species is ranked -4 out of 10.

As far as America aka the United States of America is concerned, we have much work to be done. Thankfully the leader returns with advancements in technology; only because I want the USA to exclusively own and sell the technology of the future. The specific one I talking about is paramount to the development of the species, multiple other technologies and applications; not limited to medical, space, computing, transportation, and quality of life. Which I suppose includes quality of life for not only humans, but other organisms of this planet. Oh perhaps this virus actually solves that little health care problem after all; I was thinking more like 40%. Oh and I know it will work with white people too as I specifically want it to kill me. I guess bacteria just isn't strong enough; fungi will have to do. Damn that takes longer, boo.


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    #14452070 - 05/14/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

There is a lot of weakly laid crap out there but there's also still killer doses.  As has been said thousands of times, know your source.


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    #14452089 - 05/14/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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here's my theory:

best acid ever: '67-'69

steadily gets worse starting with orange sunshine acid in '71, which was that shit they were claiming was ald-52. To me this is the beginning of a decline in the acid, due to the worsening energetic climate (it was made illegal, and the orange sunshine stuff was the first huge batch to be made during those illegal, paranoid times).

keeps getting worse and harder to find through the 80's i assume

then, probably beginning very late 80's and hitting its stride in '91, along with that hard to pin down gen-X movement and whatnot, acid comes back a bit. alongside raves and all that.

been getting worse ever since then...maybe. definitely around 2000 i don't think there was a huge acid scene going on, or at least any scene that existed was fairly stagnant. I actually think in recent years it's been coming along just fine.  I know that it's a hell of a lot easier to find acid at my high school now than when i attended it (my little bro describes how all his friends drop a shit ton of acid.  in my day, there really weren't any huge acid heads, just people like me that had experimented with it).

I think in 2012 we'll see another chapter begin to unfold in acid



i think that you hit the nail DIRECTLY on the head with this post.




thx man. i major in history and looking at shit from an almost esoteric perspective is my specialty :pipesmoke:


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    #14452110 - 05/14/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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All current instances of LSD, are not good enough. Regardless of dosage, they fail on experience. Literally I'm under the impression only the World's best chemists can even come close to making LSD on the same quality level as previously experienced before 1995-1996. Ironically due to the low cost, demand and actual skill required to create LSD; no true LSD exists on the market. Given the complex nature and most likely, undocumented actual process of creating LSD; it will never be created on the same level unless something drastic happens soon. The process will be lost forever and the drug will cease to exist in the coming future given the current degradation of the product and lack of superior product.

On a side note, does anyone know who actual paid Hofman's salary in 1940-1945? If only this happened in todays World; it would have been so easy to confirm the US Governments involvement in the funding of LSD for military applications and other World Powers. While you can argue this statement, as I have no "factual" evidence; I am very psychic and know this to be true. If we could just leave it at that I'd appreciate it. Of course this will spark outrageous debate. But this is more then true. You cannot deny the first paragraphs. It is more then likely that the actual process of creating LSD is undocumented or it really just takes one of the World's best chemists to actual create LSD; as clearly stated in the first 2 paragraphs.

Thank You.




no actually there is a lot of very real and pure LSD circulating the entire globe right now. this statement is validated by anyone who's able to test their doses at the facilities in belgium that not only test for purity but are able to give you a very good estimate on the dosage in your hits.



i personally think you're crazy.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14452154 - 05/14/11 04:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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wait, OP thinks he's actually a psychic?


i'm thinking of a number between 1 and 10, name it:ifyoucanawe:




Well I wound't waste my time usually... with something so trivial as a single person. Most likely you will just change the number as well. Also it works much better if I force the individual to choose the number first, then reveal to them which number I actually choose; but they think they choose it.

at first I thought 7, but I think 2.



honestly i chose one single number and i stuck with it. i was really hoping that you would say it and give credibility to your psychic claims while at the same time making me go :hmm:


this was my answer and the one i was hoping to get from you

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11 :Trollface:





see it was a trick question. if you were really psychic, you would have known that i had picked a number unrelated to the question i asked. which means that any attempt using the numbers 0-10 would have been wrong, because you're just guessing an answer based on what you think i'm thinking. however, if you had chosen the number 11 and included a troll face, that still doesn't necessitate anything other than a lucky guess. the same as if i had originally picked 7 and you guessed it right.





"psychics"  use things like psychology and cold reading to manipulate people into believing the things that they "sense" or "predict".


there's nothing i have ever encountered to serve as evidence for "psychic abilities". lest you present some, which is still relative.




basically, you're not any more special than any other person with an unwarranted sense of self importance, or an unrealistic set of beliefs.

but that's ok; you're only human.


i believed i had super powers when i was a child, after ruling out my obvious physical limitations, i tested my self supposed mental powers. it turns out real life doesn't correspond to a child's imagination some times.




i'll finish by saying this: as a nihilist and a skeptic, i do not totally rule out the possibility of a person/ you actually having some type of abnormal, unnatural, mental ability/s. however, based on my experiences and understanding of reasonably human limitations, i regard the notion as plausible as if you had said that you have a third arm, of which you have never conclusively demonstrated it's existence.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: iluvfungi]
    #14452209 - 05/14/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

there is plenty of very good LSD out there.  also plenty more LSD of low purity and LSD thats been laid in very low dosages.

But saying theres no "real" LSD today is ridiculous.. the recipes never changed, the LSD molecule never changed, so how could the LSD out there today not be LSD?  the only difference is purity and dosage man.    Sure there are a bunch of RCs floating around, often being sold as LSD. but the real LSD is still real LSD.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: BoneMan]
    #14452239 - 05/14/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You can't argue with him guys. He's psychic. Couldn't you use your psychic powers to find some decent LSD? I've had good WoW and avatars supposedly in the 180ug range. Maybe LSD is just avoiding you. I wonder why...


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14452532 - 05/14/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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iluvfungi said:The statement "I lack the proper connections to get LSD;" is outrageous. Globally, their is no LSD which has the same quality as previously. The incredulous statement that you specifically do, is ridiculous and purely egotistical.




I don't even know where to begin.

There's plenty of great acid still out there...

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: wildchild68]
    #14452559 - 05/14/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:And, no, musicians are not genius philosophers.  They are mostly self indulgent jerk offs, like all artists.  Useless except for entertainment.




:lol:

Your life must suck.




Hating on artists is pretty low. Who else would explore the uncharted  realms of human creativity if it were not for the artists?


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    #14452578 - 05/14/11 05:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:And, no, musicians are not genius philosophers.  They are mostly self indulgent jerk offs, like all artists.  Useless except for entertainment.




:lol:

Your life must suck.




Hating on artists is pretty low. Who else would explore the uncharted  realms of human creativity if it were not for the artists?




people like rick astley and rebecca black


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: blazenn]
    #14452589 - 05/14/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it's not really the LSD that's difficult. it's getting or making the precursors


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    #14452592 - 05/14/11 05:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Devlish2]
    #14452602 - 05/14/11 05:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:And, no, musicians are not genius philosophers.  They are mostly self indulgent jerk offs, like all artists.  Useless except for entertainment.




:lol:

Your life must suck.




Hating on artists is pretty low. Who else would explore the uncharted  realms of human creativity if it were not for the artists?



Who cares?  They are entertainment and nothing more.  Do you exalt professional baseball players?  I don't and I love baseball.  I also love music and art.  I just refuse to think that entertainment will ever be worth more than a reliable plumber.

And yes, sadly, most of the artists I have known are fucking assholes.  Pampered snotty self absorbed douchebags.


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    #14452614 - 05/14/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's ironic that you're saying this whenever your name is zappaisgod :lol:


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    #14452628 - 05/14/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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It's ironic that you're saying this whenever your name is zappaisgod :lol:




Indeed. The world would not be worth living in in my opinion is their were no creative outlets.


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    #14452632 - 05/14/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

HAH! I was skipping around in the video, so your attempt at rickrolling failed in delivery


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    #14452644 - 05/14/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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It's ironic that you're saying this whenever your name is zappaisgod :lol:




Indeed. The world would not be worth living in in my opinion is their were no creative outlets.



I just meant that Frank Zappa was an extreme asshole. It's ironic that his name is worshiping one of the larger assholes among musicians of that time.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Salomon]
    #14452653 - 05/14/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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orange peels and toothpaste, dawg :dontspillme:




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    #14452658 - 05/14/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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It's ironic that you're saying this whenever your name is zappaisgod :lol:




Yeah Zappa was one of the biggest perpetrators of artist douchebaggery around


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    #14452671 - 05/14/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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It's ironic that you're saying this whenever your name is zappaisgod :lol:




Indeed. The world would not be worth living in in my opinion is their were no creative outlets.



I just meant that Frank Zappa was an extreme asshole. It's ironic that his name is worshiping one of the larger assholes among musicians of that time.




Yup. I still love zappa though.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14452672 - 05/14/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:And, no, musicians are not genius philosophers.  They are mostly self indulgent jerk offs, like all artists.  Useless except for entertainment.




:lol:

Your life must suck.




Hating on artists is pretty low. Who else would explore the uncharted  realms of human creativity if it were not for the artists?



Who cares?  They are entertainment and nothing more.  Do you exalt professional baseball players?  I don't and I love baseball.  I also love music and art.  I just refuse to think that entertainment will ever be worth more than a reliable plumber.

And yes, sadly, most of the artists I have known are fucking assholes.  Pampered snotty self absorbed douchebags.





it's never a good thing to make generalizations about vaguely stated groups of people


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Acaterpillar] * 1
    #14452684 - 05/14/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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It's ironic that you're saying this whenever your name is zappaisgod :lol:




Indeed. The world would not be worth living in in my opinion is their were no creative outlets.



I just meant that Frank Zappa was an extreme asshole. It's ironic that his name is worshiping one of the larger assholes among musicians of that time.



ORLY?  I don't think so.  Frank Zappa was notoriously intolerant of preening, pampered douchebag musicians.  He despised the entire worship machine of popular music.  You are speaking directly out of your asshole.

Like I said, I like art and music.  I like sports entertainment and music.  It just isn't worth anywhere near as much as a reliable plumber.  NOT EVEN CLOSE.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: Salomon]
    #14452714 - 05/14/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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it's never a good thing to make generalizations about vaguely stated groups of people


there are assholes in every profession, it's not just artists and it's not all artists.




I've met several and it is most definitely my experience that the concentration of assholishness is much greater in the arts than in any other industry.


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    #14452974 - 05/14/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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And, no, musicians are not genius philosophers.  They are mostly self indulgent jerk offs, like all artists.  Useless except for entertainment.




Uh, fuck you.


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14452977 - 05/14/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

more like just a concentration of ego, because artists are pretty damn likely to be highly aware of their ego and also enjoy modifying it. chill out, artists rule, they're valuable in an entirely different way than than a plumber is (duh)


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Re: LSD must be nearly impossible to make. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14453028 - 05/14/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:  It just isn't worth anywhere near as much as a reliable plumber.  NOT EVEN CLOSE.




Wrong.

"Friendship is unnecessary, like philosophy, like art... It has no survival value; rather it is one of those things that give value to survival. "
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