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Growing again.Finally
    #14450225 - 05/14/11 09:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So i began growing here thanks to you all 2 years ago.fell in love with my hobby and had many batches of golden teachers and mazapatec shrooms.BRF style.3 grows of my own and some buddies also picked up the hobby at thier place.the wife and i had a fallout that stalled me.but here i am again gathering supplies.lol.finally.anyway ive done cakes and trays.question is when my shrooms come up they come in sets as is normal.but only a few sets here and there on the cakes or tray.how do i get those sets all over the cakes like i see many pic of.a full tray of shrooms u know.i bust my cakes into nickel sized pieces and put a layer of dry verm on and let it foam up for a week or so then a dusting of dry verm and fruit the tray.anything wrong there?mist every 2 or 3 days also.thanks to all and happy shroomin

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Re: Growing again.Finally [Re: fungusfreak187]
    #14450257 - 05/14/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

its black magic i tell you.


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Re: Growing again.Finally [Re: sporesmores420]
    #14450278 - 05/14/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yes magic i kno lol.i probably makn mistakes thats why i asked.may i ask what kind of setup that is in ur pics?with the cotton in the sides?can u use verm and flour in a setup like that?

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Re: Growing again.Finally [Re: fungusfreak187]
    #14450291 - 05/14/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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fungusfreak187 said:
So i began growing here thanks to you all 2 years ago.fell in love with my hobby and had many batches of golden teachers and mazapatec shrooms.BRF style.3 grows of my own and some buddies also picked up the hobby at thier place.the wife and i had a fallout that stalled me.but here i am again gathering supplies.lol.finally.anyway ive done cakes and trays.question is when my shrooms come up they come in sets as is normal.but only a few sets here and there on the cakes or tray.how do i get those sets all over the cakes like i see many pic of.a full tray of shrooms u know.i bust my cakes into nickel sized pieces and put a layer of dry verm on and let it foam up for a week or so then a dusting of dry verm and fruit the tray.anything wrong there?mist every 2 or 3 days also.thanks to all and happy shroomin




Welcome back, you may want to read:

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Re: Growing again.Finally [Re: avaldez314]
    #14450313 - 05/14/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea i try to follow those guidelines as much as possible alvadez but still not seein the shrooms like i think i should.thanks.any other thoughts?

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Re: Growing again.Finally [Re: fungusfreak187]
    #14450318 - 05/14/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

a shotgun style tank also.forgot to mention that.

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Re: Growing again.Finally [Re: avaldez314]
    #14450323 - 05/14/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

most use isolates


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Re: Growing again.Finally [Re: treewood69]
    #14450330 - 05/14/11 09:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

and what does that mean tree?isolates?

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Re: Growing again.Finally [Re: fungusfreak187]
    #14450745 - 05/14/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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a shotgun style tank also.forgot to mention that.




how many of the available six sides have holes in them?
and what is the diameter of said holes?
and how far apart did you space these holes?

and is your fruiting chamber elevated so that all holes are equally exposed to air?



tldr; you built your shotgun fruiting chamber wrong. i bet.


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Re: Growing again.Finally [Re: fungusfreak187]
    #14454140 - 05/14/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

tank sits on bean cans off the floor.put pea sized holes on all sides about 3 inches apart.4 to 5 inches of perilite n bottom.ALOT of holes

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Re: Growing again.Finally [Re: fungusfreak187]
    #14454963 - 05/15/11 06:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

An "isolate" is basically an individual mycelial growth that has been "isolated". I don't know what words to describe it exactly so I'll give you an example from another section of biology.

With apples, and probably some other fruits, the seeds don't produce a carbon copy of the parent. If you go plant a hundred Granny Smith seeds the odds are you won't even get one that looks and tastes like a Granny Smith. So how do they produce thousands of apple trees that DO produce fruit that are virtual carbon copies of a Granny Smith? They do it with grafting a "cultivar" to the root of one of the plants grown from seed.

A "cultivar" is the same thing as an "isolate", its a piece of living tissue which is known to produce desirable fruit. What they do is take a cutting off the branch of the original "Granny Smith" tree and graft(attach like a transplant) it to the root stock of any random apple tree which they have cut all the branches and leaves off of. So basically the tree only grows up from the grafted "cultivar" and thus the whole top of the tree is literally a clone of the tree that produces good fruit.

So how do cultivars realte to isolates specifically?  Well an isolate is a section of living mycelium which we take from a grow which has grown or produced in a desirable way. Often this is done by growing mycelium on agar and looking for the part which grows thick and ropey as this kind collonizes faster then the puffy cloudy kind. Sometimes people take isolates from a grow which fruited really well or produced monster mushrooms in an attempt to be able to consistently produce these qualities. Also with mushrooms we don't have to worry about grafting, we just use put the isolate in a sterilized jar of substrate or LC and it grows.

I'm sorry for the long winded answer, but I think the apple thing is interesting and very similar. :P


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Re: Growing again.Finally [Re: Hashishin13]
    #14454991 - 05/15/11 06:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the no. 1 reason for a less than perfect pin-set, IMO is not letting the substrate consolidate long enough. Are you waiting an entire week after they are fully colonized, to birth them? Then you are dunking for 24 hours?

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Re: Growing again.Finally [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14455395 - 05/15/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well i was told not to dunk  the casings and to mist lightly every few days if they look dry.we wait at least aweek or until all white then put layer of dry verm on top.wait until i notice the mycelium trying to pop through in spots and lightly dust with dry verm and then fruit.the isolates hashin explained make alot of sense to me.great explination.

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