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deCypher



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Weird OBE/lucid dream last night... thoughts?
#14450107 - 05/14/11 08:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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So last night I had an OBE/WILD for the first time in months... I was going to sleep like normal when I started feeling the vibrations that always precede going out of body, but I maintained steady breathing and calmness to avoid getting over-excited and blowing it. My memory gets disjointed from this point on but I distinctly remember feeling multiple explosions of full-body tingles after this; something that had never happened before. I maintained semi-lucidity throughout this, and finally launched out of body by means of rolling my body from side to side. What's interesting is that in doing so I perceived myself falling off the bed with all the normal sensations that you'd feel doing it in real life: I could touch the hard ground and when reaching my arm up could feel the soft blankets. I didn't realize that I had actually gone out of body until I got up and walked to the light switch: but flicking it didn't turn on the light. This was another very unusual aspect to the experience: most OBE reports that I've read talk about the room being permeated with light that appears to come from no source, but in my experience the room was COMPLETELY dark. It felt just like I was actually walking around in my real room (the walls were solid, gravity was operational) but I knew it had to be a dream state. I tried to focus my intention to make the room lighter but nothing worked: finally I was able to see dimly but when I looked into a nearby mirror I saw myself without any eyes... just smooth skin in my face where they ought to be. Using my hands it felt like I was wearing an eyepatch or blindfold of some sort; I kept trying to take it off but for each layer I unveiled there was a new one underneath. Finally I tried going outside to see if the moon was out but woke up gasping and drenched in sweat.
Any ideas what this means/why I was unable to bend the rules of the dream world by passing through walls like I'm ordinarily able to? I'm also puzzled as to the symbolism of the room being completely dark and having no eyes/a blindfold on... my last lucid dream/OBE like this was also in an extremely dark room. Very strange stuff at any rate.
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Re: Weird OBE/lucid dream last night... thoughts? [Re: deCypher]
#14450154 - 05/14/11 09:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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All of my OBEs (that's not that many) have been in dark rooms or sometimes colourless. Sounds cool having one filled with light.
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Re: Weird OBE/lucid dream last night... thoughts? [Re: deCypher]
#14451581 - 05/14/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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To me this is pretty simple even though on an emotional level you might find it to complex or very intriguing.
The only two reasons one would experience a dark room would be something standing in the way of sight, or the lights out. Although you might have felt like you were walking around your room, lets entertain the possibility that your consciousness never really left your body.
--- It would be experiencing a room with the lights off and with its eyes closed.
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I kept trying to take it off but for each layer I unveiled there was a new one underneath.
What a funny way for your mind to tell you stop_bro You cannot dream with open eyes
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Re: Weird OBE/lucid dream last night... thoughts? [Re: deCypher]
#14452351 - 05/14/11 05:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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maybe the reason you could not go further in your dream was because part of your physical body was still awake while you were dreaming. did you feel heavy while you were out of it? As for the room being dark im not quite sure what it could mean but again im guessing it was because you were using your physical eyes to see. I think the dream world is full of truth. for example say you dream that you are in a house, yours or someone else, and it feels dark or bad vibes everywhere its like in reality it is really like that. sort of like seeing it with the eyes of an angel, with pure eyes. like when you bust some caps and you see everything for what it truly is. its an out there opinion but wutever
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Re: Weird OBE/lucid dream last night... thoughts? [Re: deCypher]
#14461127 - 05/16/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Awesome! You had a full blown succesful OBE. I have had only a handful of those. They are few and far between, and I am always in such awe when it happens.
I have been trying to train myself to have them more often through diet and mediation, not sure if its working though.
As for not being able to walk through walls, sometimes that happens in lucid dreams or OBE's, I find its just a matter of relaxing, focusing, and willing it to happen. Eventually, if you have faith you can, you will move through the wall or other barrier.
(In my experience)
Did this just happen to you as you were falling asleep, or do you use some method to induce OBE's?
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Re: Weird OBE/lucid dream last night... thoughts? [Re: Solomon Ash]
#14461200 - 05/16/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: All of my OBEs (that's not that many) have been in dark rooms or sometimes colourless. Sounds cool having one filled with light.
Interesting... so I'm not alone! 
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jivJaN said: You cannot dream with open eyes 

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zZZz said: maybe the reason you could not go further in your dream was because part of your physical body was still awake while you were dreaming. did you feel heavy while you were out of it?
I felt perfectly normal, like I would feel if I was actually walking around my room. Occasionally my consciousness would rise to a point where I became aware of my still lying in the bed with my eyes closed, but by not moving at all I was able to sink back into the OBE.
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zZZz said: As for the room being dark im not quite sure what it could mean but again im guessing it was because you were using your physical eyes to see. I think the dream world is full of truth. for example say you dream that you are in a house, yours or someone else, and it feels dark or bad vibes everywhere its like in reality it is really like that.
Well, hopefully my house isn't a dark haven for the foulest of black magick. 
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Solomon Ash said: Did this just happen to you as you were falling asleep, or do you use some method to induce OBE's?
It just happened, honestly... I had no intention of having one prior to the experience. I felt the vibrations as I ordinarily do but this time I was abnormally successful at keeping calm (emotional excitement is what typically aborts the attempt for me) and that combined with rolling from side to side successfully induced it!
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Re: Weird OBE/lucid dream last night... thoughts? [Re: deCypher]
#14461407 - 05/16/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cool experience! It's so funny to me how most peoples initial projections are so similar, usually with the same "problems" - such as lack of visual sight. A method to regain vision, which has worked for me, is to focus on your hands until they come into visual focus. Another method which works for others is making direct commands and affirmations such as "vision now" or "I will now be able to see clearly." William Buhlman is famous for the "Clarity now" technique.
Check out one of my experiences not too long ago and you'll probably lol at the similarities.  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/flying_around_the_neighborhood-t33610.0.html
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Re: Weird OBE/lucid dream last night... thoughts? [Re: deCypher]
#14479471 - 05/19/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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On the sleep anomaly spectrum, this sounds far closer to sleep paralysis than it does lucid dreaming, although the line between the two is pretty blurry. A lot of my sleep paralysis and OBE episodes transition to and from lucid dreaming.
I've had sleep paralysis with OBE/astral projection for as long as I remember... it used to happen to me several times a week. It has been a couple of months since I've had an OBE sleep paralysis experience, but I still probably lucid dream three times a week on average. Astral projection is probably one of my most joyous experiences in life... it's so much goddamn fun. Like doing drugs without any legal ramifications or risks of OD.
My experiences have been quite varied over the years, as you may imagine, but I have had ones extraordinarily similar to what you describe- light switches don't work, gravity optional, moving in the real world, etc. I have the vibrations and tingling almost every time which can feel like I imagine phantom limb syndrome and are often accompanied by visual and audible hallucinations. After these dissipate, I leave my body and explore the "real world" or flying into mysterious worlds... sometimes space. I love it.
Are you still withdrawing from opiates? From anecdotal reports I've read, sleep anomalies like OBE and sleep paralysis are fairly common in many individuals for months after opiate withdrawal.
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