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Re: is it foolish to cling to happiness in dark times? [Re: the bizzle]
    #14430851 - 05/10/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

1st you say
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the bizzle said:
foolish to cling to anything in dark times




then you say

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the bizzle said:i try to look at dark times as a personal challenge and a new beginning




then you say

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the bizzle said:you think I could cling to change?




This whole approach is still clinging to an idea Bizzle.  Instead of the idea of happiness like the OP said you're going for lessons and the like.  Better idea, but still a lifeboat IMO.

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the bizzle said:it kinda frightens me sometimes, but fuck it. It's only another challenge.
I live for the challenge, as much as it intimidates me





Well I like that bro.  I've got my own thing I'm living for ATM...but my goal is to reach an equilibrium where I no longer need a reason.


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Re: is it foolish to cling to happiness in dark times? [Re: Cups]
    #14431022 - 05/10/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Poid said:
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IMO If it's possible to be truly happy it is to be found within the absence of a "reason".


What do you base this opinion on?




Because otherwise it's a temporary state, an emotional high triggered by some stimuli then it ends.

Just as a heavy trip doesn't make you enlightened laughing during a movie doesn't make you a happy person.


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Or if the reason is one that can't ever be taken away.  I won't speculate on what that reason could be.


Why?




I don't know what it is...but I'm looking for it dude. :psychsplit:


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Re: is it foolish to cling to happiness in dark times? [Re: Cups]
    #14431064 - 05/10/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Cups said:
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Poid said:
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Cups said:
IMO If it's possible to be truly happy it is to be found within the absence of a "reason".


What do you base this opinion on?




Because otherwise it's a temporary state, an emotional high triggered by some stimuli then it ends.


So what?


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Cups said:
Just as a heavy trip doesn't make you enlightened laughing during a movie doesn't make you a happy person.


So? Why does this make you believe that one can be "truly happy" in the absence of a reason? What do you mean by "truly happy"?


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Cups said:
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Poid said:
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Or if the reason is one that can't ever be taken away.  I won't speculate on what that reason could be.


Why?




I don't know what it is...but I'm looking for it dude. :psychsplit:


You're looking for something that probably doesn't exist? Why? :undecided:


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Re: is it foolish to cling to happiness in dark times? [Re: Poid]
    #14431125 - 05/10/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You're looking for something that probably doesn't exist? Why? :undecided:




Cause it's my deal bro.  :shrug:


As for your other questions I'll PM you later.


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Re: is it foolish to cling to happiness in dark times? [Re: Cups]
    #14431307 - 05/10/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Cups said:

This whole approach is still clinging to an idea Bizzle.  Instead of the idea of happiness like the OP said you're going for lessons and the like.  Better idea, but still a lifeboat IMO.

Quote:

the bizzle said:it kinda frightens me sometimes, but fuck it. It's only another challenge.
I live for the challenge, as much as it intimidates me





Well I like that bro.  I've got my own thing I'm living for ATM...but my goal is to reach an equilibrium where I no longer need a reason.





a reason?  I don't even know what you're talking about. I might say a lot of shit but all in all I try not to think so much, and try not to take it too seriously

you say I'm clinging to an idea but I don't even remember what the idea is.

The shit I say is less about the specific words and its more just to trigger feelings that may help a few people deal with roughness. Plus it doesn't always come out quite like I mean it.



You ever hear the expression "the devil is in the details"??


not to mention, a challenge is not a reason, it's just what you have to deal with regardless of whether you want to or not, and sometimes that either makes or breaks you.

I try to take it as it comes,
and I definitely don't have a definite idea of the world; it changes within minutes

and for that "reason", that's why I'm trying to say it's good and happier to be able to accept change.



"if we could just die a little

everything could be alive

where your lost blooms have gone, nobody knows

where I lie, ain't no flower gonna grow"


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Re: is it foolish to cling to happiness in dark times? [Re: the bizzle]
    #14431361 - 05/10/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I just got told to expect 15 ft of water from the ground I stand on...and I'm chillin'. I'm happy.

my home is beautiful and like paradise to me, so this news should devastate me, but really it's just pretty miraculous to me that anything exists at all.

:shrug:

"it is what it is" as "they say"


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Re: is it foolish to cling to happiness in dark times? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14450049 - 05/14/11 08:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have stopped resenting HOMEOSTASIS.

including emotional homeostasis,
which is what I believe you are talking about.

i.e. it is not a crime to be a creature with homeostatic tropisms,
but as humans we do need to find and apply moral integrity above this organic level of living between extremes (avoiding pain and moving to pleasure).

that means working with it, not detesting it outright.


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