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LightShedder
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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: eqt146]
#14459898 - 05/15/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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eqt146 said: A year or two ago there was a batch of Bromo Dfly mislabeled as 2cb-fly that killed a few people. You'd think they would learn from that, right?
Oh well, they deserved it. Anyone who would take an unknown substance without first bioassaying very small doses and then moving up is clearly mentally infirm. The only problem is that lawmakers are sure to not recognize this error and assume the 2c-s are deadly. Better stock up, folks!
You'll burn brother
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Ogla



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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: LightShedder]
#14460351 - 05/16/11 01:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey guys check it bromodragon on erowid
One confirmed death occurred in Denmark, another in San Jose, California. Both followed the use of material sold as 2C-B-fly, acquired from the research chemical reseller Haupt-RC, but manufactured in China. Both deaths and some hospitalizations were reportedly caused by a batch identified as "b1" on the label. 2009
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bromo_dragonfly/bromo_dragonfly_death.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=81660http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=81660
"it was much richer than the wonderful LSD which I regularly consume out here on the West Coast, but I felt that there wasn’t the “godspace” which I attain when I see visuals like that off of any other favored psychedelic. I found this same issue when I had my two experiences with high doses of 2-cb in the past. It was visually very impressive, but the clarity of mind made me almost feel like something was missing."
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Ogla



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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Ogla]
#14460396 - 05/16/11 01:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Danish fella got his fingers and stuff amputated
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bromo_dragonfly/bromo_dragonfly_death3.shtml
In this installment of Drug Tales from the Crypt, we examine the story of a Danish man who lost not only his fingers and toes–but also a dear friend–to the rare research chemical Bromo-Dragonfly (Bromo-benzodifuranyl-isopropylamine).
http://marymicrogram.blogspot.com/p/drug-tales-from-crypt.html
heres his hand
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Zzzarathustra



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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Ogla]
#14460437 - 05/16/11 02:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If I buy LSD from someone I don't really know, is there a chance I might get something like this ?
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lasdR
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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Zzzarathustra]
#14460450 - 05/16/11 02:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Zzzarathustra said: If I buy LSD from someone I don't really know, is there a chance I might get something like this ?
yes. I think DO-X`s are the most common.
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Zzzarathustra



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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: lasdR]
#14460596 - 05/16/11 03:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's amazing how many people have absolutely no fear to try RC's
I'm scared shitless to even buy regular stuff because I don't know if that's exactly what I'm going to get.
I'll just stick to shrooms for now. I've been waiting for two years to try LSD and now this happens...
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daz01
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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Zzzarathustra]
#14460966 - 05/16/11 07:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shit. That blogspot is pretty scary. Definitely making me question what is in the so called "high quality" speed me and my friends get.
Think I'll stick to my freshly picked mushies and some nice green.
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German Kahuna
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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: yogabunny] 1
#14461046 - 05/16/11 08:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yogabunny said: imagine if people didn't have to buy their drugs from sketchy internet dealers.....
I've dealt with a whole lot of shadier people IRL in some dark corner of some park surrounded by the dealer's equally shady and mean looking buddies (without a chance to test the product before I was in the safety of my home) than I have dealt with shady dealers on the Interwebs. The ones that are legit will offer a small sample at a small price. I even know one that offers a free sample and only slaps the price for the sample on top of the first order if you like the product, which is always the case, so the guy never loses the money over fronting the sample. Mailorder drugs FTW. That said, I'd never ever order from a chinese Alibaba trader who sells cell phone batteries, counterfeit Nike's and research chemicals all at once, all from a shed in the back of his dad's pig farm.
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heratogwea



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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: elprawn]
#14461266 - 05/16/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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elprawn said: On a different forum I've seen a few reports of bromo-dragonfly killing people that thought they were taking something else.
Thats what happened in this instance.
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LobsterSauce


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: German Kahuna]
#14461280 - 05/16/11 09:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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German Kahuna said:
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yogabunny said: imagine if people didn't have to buy their drugs from sketchy internet dealers.....
I've dealt with a whole lot of shadier people IRL in some dark corner of some park surrounded by the dealer's equally shady and mean looking buddies (without a chance to test the product before I was in the safety of my home) than I have dealt with shady dealers on the Interwebs. The ones that are legit will offer a small sample at a small price. I even know one that offers a free sample and only slaps the price for the sample on top of the first order if you like the product, which is always the case, so the guy never loses the money over fronting the sample. Mailorder drugs FTW. That said, I'd never ever order from a chinese Alibaba trader who sells cell phone batteries, counterfeit Nike's and research chemicals all at once, all from a shed in the back of his dad's pig farm.
Selective scamming is something that was only recently brought to my attention.
Say 8 people buy from him,he'll send out for 6/7 and that's it. Lost in transit. Or wait till someone drops enough for it to be worth it not to send out. Fuck sake.
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babz89
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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: LobsterSauce]
#14461437 - 05/16/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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the difference between murder and involuntary manslaughter is about 25 years...
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German Kahuna
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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: LobsterSauce]
#14461628 - 05/16/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What can I say, you obviously deal with the wrong people. Business ethics are the key to long term success. You only scam people so often before you get labelled as a scam or at least sketchy. The "source I know" even offers compensation on a lost cross-continent shipment once (risking being scammed himself), but after that he considers the business relationship terminated. That is what I consider business ethics. The scamming "customer" loses a top source. Everyone's gotta know for themselves if that's what they want.
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LobsterSauce


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: German Kahuna]
#14461792 - 05/16/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't order anything myself but a buddy does alright. He has a pretty good contact apparently but people he knew were getting scammed selectively. The person would just disappear and try and come back pretending to be other legit vendors or as a new one himself.
Ridiculous stuff really.
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JesusGreen
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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: AcidStrippedMind]
#14461825 - 05/16/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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AcidStrippedMind said: Fuck, man. I read I think one of the dudes is getting charged with first degree murder, too. Sounded like they did everything right dosage wise, but they got the WRONG FUCKING CHEMICAL. Because it's in such a grey area, sketchy vendors are involved. I say its not the kids fault. It's the drug laws fault.
Saying that though - who sells a product they've not tested themselves? That's just as bad as the vendor imo, the vendor probably did the exact same thing, ordered from a large scale producer expecting it to be the real thing, never tested it, and boom, people died.
I think to blame just the laws or just the vendor is wrong, there are several people at fault here. The producer who mislabelled it (Since from what I've read the site never sold Bromo-dragonFLY, so it was most likely mislabelled before it got to them), the vendor, who did not test the product to assure it was the real thing, and the dealer who sold it without having so much as sampled any himself.
All in all, such a tragedy.
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JewKing21
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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: JesusGreen]
#14461919 - 05/16/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Man this is a shame, this definitely turns new users, like myself, off of expanding our horizons you know? I am also a bit sad because of the deaths occurring in Minneapolis, reppin my hometown has to be good you know?
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German Kahuna
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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: JewKing21]
#14462052 - 05/16/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seeing what it can do to people I find it ridiculous that anyone even still manufactures BDF. That garbage chemical shouldn't even be in circulation at all.
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drr

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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: German Kahuna]
#14462200 - 05/16/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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German Kahuna said: Seeing what it can do to people I find it ridiculous that anyone even still manufactures BDF. That garbage chemical shouldn't even be in circulation at all.
I agree. Its definitely earning a very bad reputation.
Wait until all the drug nerds come in saying "BDF is just as safe as LSD/Mescaline in the proper dose" blah blah blah. Yeah that explains all these people who have died, had limbs amputated, or in the very least survived some nightmare hospital death trip.
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Shroomism
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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: dwpineal]
#14462364 - 05/16/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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This isn't the first time, and it won't be the last time.
As long as the war on drugs continues, New drugs and RCs will continue being produced the world over And shady chinese vendors will send mislabeled untested products.
Know and trust your source.
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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Shroomism]
#14462649 - 05/16/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shit is generally fucked up.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: mongo lloyd]
#14463292 - 05/16/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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This incident is gonna have RC's illegalized if the mass media decides to cover it
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