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justinkl75
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How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out?
#14449140 - 05/14/11 01:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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There are hundreds of thousands of plants in the world, how did the shamans figure out which ones healed, and which ones when combined made you have a psychedelic experience, example: Banisteriopsis spp. vine + Psychotria plant = Ayahuasca? Shamans found this out thousands of years ago, how?
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ComaDivine
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: justinkl75]
#14449168 - 05/14/11 01:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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intuition and experimentation, and a bit of dumb luck
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SummerDaisies
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: ComaDivine]
#14449176 - 05/14/11 01:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ComaDivine said: intuition and experimentation, and a bit of dumb luck
i think that explains it pretty well
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Luman
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: ComaDivine]
#14449179 - 05/14/11 01:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The plants told them
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Greenvalley
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: Luman]
#14449271 - 05/14/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Luman said: The plants told them
A true and beautiful union with nature, not exploitation for consumption but being to enter into a relationship with
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Pigasus
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: Greenvalley]
#14449283 - 05/14/11 02:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd like to know how the shaman's followers found out that drinking his piss would make them trip too.
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Sleepwalker
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: justinkl75]
#14449291 - 05/14/11 02:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The same way we figure shit out today - experimentation.
These people weren't retarded, just slightly more ignorant.
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Luman
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: Sleepwalker]
#14449309 - 05/14/11 02:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oweyervishice said: These people weren't retarded, just slightly more ignorant.
Yet much wiser in some ways
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Sleepwalker
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: Luman]
#14449338 - 05/14/11 02:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Luman said:
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Oweyervishice said: These people weren't retarded, just slightly more ignorant.
Yet much wiser in some ways
 They lived a simpler life, but I don't think that's as much due to wisdom as it is due to the times.
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Luman
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: Sleepwalker]
#14449358 - 05/14/11 02:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Perhaps, but they also desired much less and took pleasure and reverence in much simpler things. I can get with that.
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: Luman]
#14450051 - 05/14/11 08:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Watch the animals. They know their stuff.
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s0nny
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: ComaDivine]
#14450055 - 05/14/11 08:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
ComaDivine said: intuition and experimentation, and a bit of dumb luck
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: s0nny]
#14450059 - 05/14/11 08:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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How did the human race gain knowledge about anything?
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Aser
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: s0nny]
#14450063 - 05/14/11 08:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Someone made this point in another thread: When you don't have television and internet, you end up having a lot of free time and boredom.
They probably didn't have anything better to do than look for drugs. Wouldn't you try to find some drugs if you were stuck in the rainforest with nothing to do?
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Doc_T
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: Pigasus]
#14450066 - 05/14/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pigasus said: I'd like to know how the shaman's followers found out that drinking his piss would make them trip too.
In Siberia in the middle of winter, there isn't always liquid water available.
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fatppl12

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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: maug]
#14450102 - 05/14/11 08:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
maug said: Watch the animals. They know their stuff.
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: fatppl12]
#14450191 - 05/14/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am sure it was trial and error... Take or smoke a small amount...put into categories 1) poisonous 2) eatable 3) magic 4) freakn nasty
But was over thousands years... Plus as we know, it's knowledge that can be passed on between groups... 'hey, Okluck ate that plant and did not come back, maybe we should not eat that plant!'
Am sure some was luck... Some were based on animals...(sorta wonder about the Eskimo practice or aminita urine consumption) Some based on logical deduction by classifications and keys.... Like we do now with iD'ing mushrooms... Just oral traditions
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: HarryL]
#14450951 - 05/14/11 12:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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They were in touch with themselves and the world around them. Taste a small bit, feel effects, taste alittle more, repeat until effects and doseage are known. They didnt have TV and internet. They felt with their bodys and minds, that was the only way to do it.
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: justinkl75]
#14450964 - 05/14/11 12:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Satan.
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k00laid
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Re: How did Shamans Know which plants healed or made you trip out? [Re: Dickhead]
#14451123 - 05/14/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i didnt know people didnt know how this happened?
its the animals and the elders. :/
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