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the locked shroom
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What do you consider "research" ?
#14448898 - 05/14/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I keep seeing people here suggest doing "research" before trying a new drug, or someone boasting that they're educated because they "research" a drug before trying it while their friends just consume it.
Basically, I'm wondering what you mean by "research". I typically go over to erowid, see what the dose sizes are, maybe check if there are any chemical contraindications, and that's about all. Which...I wouldn't really consider "research", or anything to be on a high horse about anyway.
So what are people possibly considering serious "research"? Molecular structure? History? Legality? Manufacture? These things really don't matter much for taking a drug. I don't think effects really count either, since they tend to be fairly personal and you probably already have an idea of what to expect if you're interested in taking the drug in the first place.
Edited by the locked shroom (05/14/11 12:09 AM)
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drr

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I think you've got it mostly covered.
Its more research than a lot of kids do.
But probably most of the ones that end up registering and posting here are doing the minimal 'research' not to do something too stupid.
I mean, if you don't look up those things, you could do something really stupid. Like mix DXM and MDMA. Which doesn't sound deadly at first. We mix MDMA with lots of things. But that particular combination can be really dangerous. And you wouldn't know that unless you did a little 'research'.
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Psilosomniac
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Re: What do you consider "research" ? [Re: drr]
#14449385 - 05/14/11 02:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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One of the big things is researching all the possible risks and knowing what you're getting into. It would be good, for example, to research common thought loops and patterns to prepare for a mushroom trip so you don't end up calling 911 and telling them you took mushrooms and can't stop tripping 
Those basic things are necessities when it comes to trying a new drug. I personally research all the teks and extraction techniques (for things like LSA from Morning Glories) etc, so I can get the best out of the experience. I also look into getting as much input about it as possible, see what people think, just general advice for taking it.
These things may seem obvious, but they aren't to everybody. That's really what researching means. Lots of kids don't do it. They end up in the hospital with liver failure after taking Nyquil because they were told cough syrup got them high and didn't bother to research things to avoid (like Acetometophin containing syrups).
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maug



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Re: What do you consider "research" ? [Re: Psilosomniac]
#14449603 - 05/14/11 03:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Compare lethal/over dose to active dose. Multiplies and synergies. How to detox quickly in case of an OD or mis-ID. If it effects certain conditions (me for example, I need to worry about seizures and migraines). If you can't focus your eyes 3 days later, or have shakes and feel like taking warm baths 3 days later, that's a sign that your body has a hard time handling the drug. How it's different for people taking it their first time vs hundredth. Physical damage and nerve damage. Dose purity, and detecting impurities/contams.
I would say reading experiences are a huge part of it. You can find tips on how to handle bad trips or get the most out of a particular substance, and why you should even take that substance in the first place. If you're new to psychedelics or a psychedelic, then you should have some idea about what you're getting into. Experience reports can also give you ideas of preparations and activities you can/can't do.
An example of when I should have done a little more research is calamus root. I'm sure it's great and someday I'll find out. But when I tried it, I found out the hard way that you should only use fresh calamus root that you pick yourself. I ended up puking bile non-stop for 4-5 hours. From what I read later online, that happened to about 50% of people in the experience reports and was caused by bacterial growth.
That's about all I can think of off the top of my head. Hope it helps.
-------------------- I think nighttime is dark so you can imagine your fears with less distraction. -Calvin and Hobbes
Edited by maug (05/14/11 08:08 AM)
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fatppl12

Registered: 04/23/11
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Quote:
the locked shroom said: I typically go over to erowid
This is research.
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