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Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible?
#14448612 - 05/13/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I posted another thread on my first PF Tek grow that I am trying to follow to a T. However my unlucky ass was only able to acquire 1/4 pint canning jars . I do have a theory however have a theory. Less area, less substrate, less colonization time, less risk of contamination. However this could be just mildly relative and have some truth (or none at all) but the difference could be minimal at best. RR, somebody competent, any trusted cultivator or some one who knows what the hell they are talking about give me a heads up please I am posting a separate post just on this question (please forgive me mods and long time members alike if I am going above and beyond but I am sterilizing my cakes now and proceeding forward and I would really like to know if I am destined for gore or glory! Hope some one answers soon I'm kinda freaking out.... and not in a good way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14448619 - 05/13/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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1/4 pints work just fine man, you can relax
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14448666 - 05/13/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: 1/4 pints work just fine man, you can relax 
Yep you will be fine.
Shit it could even be better in a way, Quicker colonization?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: lucas_southoz]
#14448688 - 05/13/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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A little faster maybe, not any better. But yeah, they are fine. Better than regular mouth tall half pints, IMO.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: Doc_T]
#14448705 - 05/13/11 11:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: A little faster maybe, not any better. But yeah, they are fine. Better than regular mouth tall half pints, IMO.
Doc, no offense bro, but i'm wanting to start kicking people in the nuts when they knock the tall half pints.... My F+ grow is ONLY the tall 1/2 pints and pints. I get great results!! I honestly do not feel that jar size or shape makes a single bit of difference (minus the tapered mouths on qt jars for grain spawn.)
It's 100% what is comfortable to the cultivator IME/O
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14448719 - 05/13/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've had better results with widemouths. Most people that have compared will say the same. If you kick me, make sure you take me out with the first strike, you won't get a second one.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: Doc_T]
#14448758 - 05/13/11 11:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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thanks guys will get pics when i can steal my moms camera shouldn't be too hard... I am boiling em they're off the bottom on lid rings with foil on top and foil on the jars the water ran dry for a second though (no more than 5 min) the rice doesnt look burned in any way hope im still safe any body think i should be worried?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: Doc_T]
#14448804 - 05/13/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: I've had better results with widemouths. Most people that have compared will say the same. If you kick me, make sure you take me out with the first strike, you won't get a second one. 
I've only been able to find wide mouths locally for $13+, I can get the regular "jelly jars" for $7 almost everywhere, so I've never used the wide mouths. I'd have to say my avatar argues my point...
And if I ever were pissed off enough to kick someone in the nuts, they better hope that takes them out... Otherwise I'd hate to find out how I'd follow that up to keep them from getting back up 
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14449318 - 05/14/11 02:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The short 1/2 pint wide mouths are superior to the tall boys every day hands down......I feel like kicking someone in the balls when they say otherwise.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
#14449363 - 05/14/11 02:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i GrOw StUFF said: The short 1/2 pint wide mouths are superior to the tall boys every day hands down......I feel like kicking someone in the balls when they say otherwise.
out perform my tall 1/2 pint in my avatar, 6.5 grams dry and over 70 fruits
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14449973 - 05/14/11 07:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: It's 100% what is comfortable to the cultivator IME/O
The cultivator's comfort has nothing to do with it.
It's 100% about what is comfortable to the mycelium, and when it comes to using brown rice flour and vermiculite, jars should be wider than they are tall to avoid packing the substrate and to avoid oxygen starvation in the bottom of the jar. This is well established.
Anyone with outstanding pictures of cakes fruiting spectacularly from the wrong shape jars should post them, because I for one have never seen one.
Oh, and to the OP, a quick search will reveal some very nice 1/4 pint jar grows. RR
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14450632 - 05/14/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i GrOw StUFF said: The short 1/2 pint wide mouths are superior to the tall boys every day hands down......I feel like kicking someone in the balls when they say otherwise.
out perform my tall 1/2 pint in my avatar, 6.5 grams dry and over 70 fruits
6.5 dry gs is an average half pint yield.
the fact of the matter is, the short ones will colonize the same volume of substrate faster. due to less compaction of the substrate, and superior gas exchange :/
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: k00laid]
#14450776 - 05/14/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: penhed]
#14451049 - 05/14/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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So I nocced up my jars today! I am going to borrow my mom's camera when they start to colonize. I made my own brf slightly chunky (the biggest pieces were about 2mm) And unfortunately I was only able to find the very fine horticultural verm and I added 2 tbs gypsum to the whole 10 jar batch. I think I put just a lil too much solution in my jars because I ran out with 2 syringes in 10 1/4 pt jars. (I hope that's a good thing) I wiped all my counters down after I began steaming my jars (the pot ran out of water once for about 2 min but the brf didn't look burned and the moisture content looked good from what I know and understand) and this morning when they were fully cooled i wiped all my counters down again with medical grade disinfectant. I dawned my gloves tucking them over my sprayed down long sleeve shirt and wiped my gloves down with germ-X and sprayed out a tub (my future SGFC) with my disinfectant and ran a lil alcohol through it too. I couldn't find the face masks I thought I bought so I sprayed down a bandana and used that instead. I flamed the needles between jars ans I would say I put about 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 cc's in each jar (oops) and put them in the case they came in after spraying it down good with my disinfectant. It's in a cupboard slightly covered with a paper towel no foil or tape etc. Any questions comments or concerns?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: k00laid]
#14454335 - 05/15/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: It's 100% what is comfortable to the cultivator IME/O
The cultivator's comfort has nothing to do with it.
It's 100% about what is comfortable to the mycelium, and when it comes to using brown rice flour and vermiculite, jars should be wider than they are tall to avoid packing the substrate and to avoid oxygen starvation in the bottom of the jar. This is well established.
Anyone with outstanding pictures of cakes fruiting spectacularly from the wrong shape jars should post them, because I for one have never seen one.
Oh, and to the OP, a quick search will reveal some very nice 1/4 pint jar grows. RR
      
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i GrOw StUFF said: The short 1/2 pint wide mouths are superior to the tall boys every day hands down......I feel like kicking someone in the balls when they say otherwise.
out perform my tall 1/2 pint in my avatar, 6.5 grams dry and over 70 fruits
6.5 dry gs is an average half pint yield.
the fact of the matter is, the short ones will colonize the same volume of substrate faster. due to less compaction of the substrate, and superior gas exchange :/
I didn't clarify, That was just the first flush... my 1/2 pints average 12-15 grams dry over 4 flushes
This cake was my 6.5 gram 1st flush, best so far:
I average 4.5-6.6 grams for a first flush with my cakes. I'm going to start adding gypsum and changing the substrate up a bit to try to further improve my cake yield as I've been able to keep them hydrated enough to go through fruiting.
I understand the idea behind using the short fat jars... However i'm more than happy with my results!
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14454388 - 05/15/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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damn dude...good job Those cakes look awesome
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thanks, those are both full pint cakes as well as the tall 1/2 pints
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14459910 - 05/15/11 11:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Does anyone know weather or not exposing my cake jars to indirect sunlight now would speed up the colonization process I keep getting conflicting information on this one and I don't want to screw things up this early on...
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14459961 - 05/15/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You can and it might speed it up a little but its risky. there are contams responsive to sunlight, so your rollin the dice. Its not worth it if you ask me.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: mushiepussy] 1
#14460896 - 05/16/11 07:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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My jars always get light while colonizing
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: mushiepussy]
#14461235 - 05/16/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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mushiepussy said: there are contams responsive to sunlight, so your rollin the dice.
care to clarify?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: k00laid]
#14461285 - 05/16/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Low-level ambient room light will speed up colonization slightly. Avoid direct sunlight during colonization. RR
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14461389 - 05/16/11 10:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think I'll just leave em in the dark. Better for pinning from what I've read from you RR (like my avatar?) Besides the way I figure it the less they move the better chance at avoiding contams. They are currently in a cabinet in my kitchen that never comes in contact with anything but clean plastic dishes and I sprayed a shit ton of disinfectant in there before I put my jars in there... I can be patient even though its a lil hard but its okay. I'm about 3 days in so I should only have a few more to go. I'm doin Burmese Yangoon and Dancing Tiger both I have heard colonize pretty quickly and I've heard the Burm are pretty resistant to contams but that may only be legend lol. Any body have an idea as to approx how long I have left? Given the conditions. My home tends to stay at an ambient temp of 75-80 degrees F and they're 1/4 pt jars as everyone knows SO...
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14461470 - 05/16/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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if u think about it.. why wouldnt it work... just use your noodle
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: skiddy]
#14461487 - 05/16/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Using my noodle, but if my noodle is green to what I am doing I like to get a second or even thrid opnion every now and again...
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14467508 - 05/17/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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]Any way IM SO EXCITED!!!!!My jars have noticable coilonization the way I see it I might have 10 days plus some time to let my jars consolidate only like 2 days till I have some choice pics want to show something worth seeing if ya catch my drift. I'm so excited I'm about to piss myself!
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14467541 - 05/17/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I gotta know. How in the hell did you get that cake in your avatar pic to do that? If its a secret pm me but please tell me.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14467659 - 05/17/11 12:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am so glad to here the 4oz jars (1/4 pt.) are working for you because that was all I could find. I just put 12 jars in the tub to grow. My house is cold, so there is a heating pad in the tub that warms the ambient temp up to 75, but the jars are directly on the heating pad (the type I use for seed starting).
Keeping my fingers crossed!
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: Cayenne Cuervo]
#14467677 - 05/17/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Best of luck I did my jars a couple days ago, im not heat incubating them but my home's ambiant temp is between 75 and 80 degrees I had them in my kitchen cupboard to begin with the first 2 days of colonization and then moved them to my closet in my bedroom which is closer to a heater vent (all mine are on the celling for some odd reason) this is day three and I have noticable growth coming on I'm so very very excited.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14467697 - 05/17/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cayenne Cuervo said: I am so glad to here the 4oz jars (1/4 pt.) are working for you because that was all I could find. I just put 12 jars in the tub to grow. My house is cold, so there is a heating pad in the tub that warms the ambient temp up to 75, but the jars are directly on the heating pad (the type I use for seed starting).
Keeping my fingers crossed!
Dont use the heating pad... I fruited successfully in 60 degree temps, colonized 100% in a month using LC in 50-55 degree temps.
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babz89 said: I gotta know. How in the hell did you get that cake in your avatar pic to do that? If its a secret pm me but please tell me.
All I did was mist and fan bro. I do believe I birthed, dunked 24 hours, rolled in verm, misted 30 mins later, then just fanned the first day to let water evap. Then I misted 1-2 times a day, fanning 3-5 times. After I started to see pinning, I misted 2-3 time a day, fanned 5-7 times (gotta make sure the water evaps off the fruits, or they'll rot)
Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions as I notice everyone who talked shit about my jars hasn't said anything else. If you check my F+ grow in my sig you can see more pics of my results
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
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So I went to home depot today and bought a 'clear' sterilite tub unfortunately I could only get an opaque green top, however I cut a rectangular hole about a third of the lid size directly in the middle of the lid. I covered it with a sheet of plastic lighting cover and silicon glued it into place I covered my tub in 1/4 in holes approx 2'' apart (no exact placement just a tad uneven) on every single surface I could I located a 5500k fluorescent bulb still dont have a hygrometer any other comments or concerns will have pics the second I can get a hold of a damn camera~! 10 days and counting!!!
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14482790 - 05/20/11 04:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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FC is ready light and holes n all clear tub yada yada (not dismissing just previous info) At this point (judging by my posts) approx how long od you think my wait until birthing would be? I have been told to dunk I want to tap out my jars palm to table/work surface dunk in room temp water (wouldn't colder evap faster considering my temps?) for up to 24 hrs then place on foil in my FC on my wet [perlite and call it good fan more than mist before more mist more fan after pins. Am I correct thus far? Can I use the fine verm I have as casing/do I need casing (I've been told I don't) for a small bulk pan in my SGFC?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14482796 - 05/20/11 04:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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My jars are looking between 30 and 50% colonized I'll be letting them sit for a few more days after they look solid white I'm noticing rhizo(finger/snowflake) growth is this normal invitro?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
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No news is good news. Pics?
After your jars reach 100% colonization, did you know you'r supposed to let them sit at full colonization for up to a month before you birth them so that the mycelium can fully consume the substrate and take an even stronger foot holding onto it?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
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babz89 said: My jars are looking between 30 and 50% colonized I'll be letting them sit for a few more days after they look solid white I'm noticing rhizo(finger/snowflake) growth is this normal invitro?
Yes you do want a good strong rizo growth. You're myc is happy and you have lucked out so far with your genetics from multispore. Just let them keep doing their thing and make sure to let consolidate for at least 1 week. (I let mine sit 2-4 weeks after 100% colonization)
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: Doctor_Inoc]
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Doctor_Inoc said: No news is good news. Pics?
After your jars reach 100% colonization, did you know you'r supposed to let them sit at full colonization for up to a month before you birth them so that the mycelium can fully consume the substrate and take an even stronger foot holding onto it?
Are you friggin high? The most I would need to let my myc 'consolidate' Is like a week besides my jars are only 1/4 pints
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14484353 - 05/20/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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xDD ya a month consolidation is a long ass time.
5 days past visible 100% is even good enough >.>
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14484754 - 05/20/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doctor_Inoc said: No news is good news. Pics?
After your jars reach 100% colonization, did you know you'r supposed to let them sit at full colonization for up to a month before you birth them so that the mycelium can fully consume the substrate and take an even stronger foot holding onto it?
Are you friggin high? The most I would need to let my myc 'consolidate' Is like a week besides my jars are only 1/4 pints
No. Ok, a little bit. but that has nothing to do with it. I'v been doing this along time and I'm here to tell you, the longer you can allow for a consolidation period (of any substrate), the more explosive your first and second flush are going to come on.
I do usually do BRF cakes in half-pint wide-mouth jars though so that long of a consolidation period may not be necessary for cakes that size but it won't hurt so long as those tiny cakes don't dry out. I give my 1\2 pint jars a full month to consolidate before they'r birthed. Being that your cakes are 1/4 pints, I'd at least give em' 2 weeks of a consolidation period.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: Doctor_Inoc]
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I want pics...personally but glad to hear its going well so far.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: ShadowHagi]
#14484883 - 05/20/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tryin I dont have a camera and my mom's being a duche about coming over to my house. So I'll update when I can sorry.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14484963 - 05/20/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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wow a month to consolidate? if my jars are left over a week they usually start pinning - even start before the week sometime.
slaphappypill - nice looking cakes man..... I'm lucky to get 3.5 dry, maybe i'll start fanning a little more by itself with more periodic misting. I do however notice a huge difference now that winter is over and I'm able to fan fresh air from the window right directly on them.
I have half pint wide mouth for the most part, then 4 or 5 tall ones and 1 blue rolka cheese jar. Some do better then others randomly but I don't see either type of jar being superior to another. The blue rolka cheese jar actually dosn't do to bad....
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Should have pics tomorrow I just got this really cool grow light/stand that's for starting plants (germinating/sprouting) and the bulb is a 6400k bar florescent its a pretty cool little contraption considering the light height is adjustable and it seems to be easily manipulate plus it doesn't take up too much space. Anyway jars are looking good I gotta start marking them to make sure they aren't stalling (I may just be getting antsy) I am so ready for them to be done but unfortunately mother nature even in prime conditions does what she wants not what I do... No matter how much I beat myself up about it
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14490558 - 05/21/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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These are my FC's and lighting My jars......   Tell me what cha think?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14490563 - 05/21/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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my mum's camera is high def and i still cant figure it out lols.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14490643 - 05/21/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think you should quit turning your jars on there sides & let them colonize & then consolidate. Other than that
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: mabachko]
#14490672 - 05/21/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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they were only put like that for pics Y doesn't anybody get that?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14491042 - 05/21/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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By the way, if you can't find 1/2 pints you can use plastic food containers instead. But use only polypropylene containers (they have number 5 in recycling triangle). They are much cheaper than glass jars and can be used in pc without any problem.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: pasvas]
#14491073 - 05/21/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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And one more tip, shaking your jars when they are colonized on quarter will significantly increase colonization speed.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: pasvas]
#14491122 - 05/21/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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WTF! Shaking your jars will ruin ur barrier.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: pasvas]
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The jars featured in this thread are BRF cakes. BRF cakes aren't like grains and don't break apart like grains so colonization speed can not be quickened by shaking, aside from contaminating your vermiculite barrier.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14491879 - 05/21/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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is that a mutie in that pic? looks like it to me...
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14500199 - 05/23/11 05:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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BUMP! Any thoughts, comments, questions?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14500710 - 05/23/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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babz89 said: BUMP! Any thoughts, comments, questions?
Just figured I'd addd a picture of my cake that I harvested today:

The last pic is of the mushies off that cake that added to 10 grams cracker dry!
The cake is a full pint size which is also said to suck for results. So I'm sorry guys but I have to say that jar size doesn't matter, use what you can get as long as the neck isn't tapered (You need to get your cake out unless you're using it for spawn)
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14504253 - 05/24/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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*sigh* It's not fair slaphappypill! I could only dream to imagine getting a pinset like those. Gosh batman I think I'll drool now,
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14504277 - 05/24/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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So I was wondering, I have a ceiling fan in my kitchen where I do most of my work. Can this do my fanning for me? It evaps the water on the paper-towel I'm using to try and germ some really old mint and basil seeds and so I have to hose it down like 4-6 times a day... Just a thought.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14504353 - 05/24/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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if you're using a sgfc you don't want the fan. It'll dry things out way too quick and your Fc wont keep the RH up
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14505007 - 05/24/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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So I took a look at my jars today and most of them are about 99% colonized (3 are like 75-80%) I'm so excited I could pee myself! Now its 7 days and counting!!! Any one disagree?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14505072 - 05/24/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would really let them chill for 2 weeks... I know it's tough, but I always wait longer than 1 week
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
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slapphappypill said: I would really let them chill for 2 weeks... I know it's tough, but I always wait longer than 1 week
But they're only 1/4 pint jars you said you use 1 pint quite a difference
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14505156 - 05/24/11 03:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Random thought (please forgive me if already stated): I could see how 1/4 pint jars could be handy for G2G noccs... Get a bunch of lil guys started; then txr the best to large containers. See it as a great way to minimise wasted grain do to bad spawns...
Any feedback on this idea?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
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slapphappypill said: I would really let them chill for 2 weeks... I know it's tough, but I always wait longer than 1 week

I give my half pints a full month. If I was doing 1/4 pints, I'd give them 2 weeks of a consolidation period, easy.
To reiterate, the longer of a consolidation period you can allow for, without completely drying out your cakes, the faster and more prolific the first 2 flushes come on. This is important because you get about 90% of your substrate's flush potential in the first 2 flushes. Get your fruits before trich ever gets a chance to know a substrate's being fruited, let alone gain a foot-holding.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: Doctor_Inoc]
#14505263 - 05/24/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok ok ok ok I guess I have waited this long to see this much what's 2 more weeks. How do I tell if they're drying out? What if they start pinning?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14505280 - 05/24/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If they start to pin thats perfectly ok! I doubt however they will pin within the first 2 weeks, but if they start pinning in between the first and second weeks, just wait until the 2 weeks are up as it wont hurt for the cakes to start pinning. Make sure to dunk with the pins on, and then roll in verm like normal
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14512262 - 05/25/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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BUMP!!! Wondering how soon after colonization (100% to the eye) I can birth dunk and fruit my cakes... I have heard to let them consolidate and all that jazz but I am wondering how early I can birth a cake without the yield suffering...
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14512288 - 05/25/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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1 week minimum bro, I wait 2-4 weeks myself or until I start to see pins
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
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It's best to let the cakes consolidate in colonizing conditions. The reason for this is because the mycelium's going to consolidate the cakes whether they'r in fruiting conditions or not.
Leaving the cakes in jars to consolidate keeps cakes from beginning to collect mold spores from being introduced into fruiting conditions (an open environment) while they'r trying to consolidate.
You may see a lot of "blobbing" of the cakes after you birth them if you don't allow for long enough of a consolidation period. The blobbing sets pinning way back.
Having to leave your cakes in the fruiting chamber for that much longer gives the cakes more time to become contaminated before the first flush.
Plus, by leaving the cakes in jars during consolidation, consolidation is encouraged by the cakes remaining in a high co2 environment.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: Doctor_Inoc]
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So I plan to grate and spawn some of my cakes to cow manure(bagged stuff, water/sun leached) coir (from pet-smart) fine horticultural grade verm, gypsum. I don't have a thermometer so what can I do about pasteurizing? Does the pillow case method work for this (I have UTFSE and can't get a solid answer) and is 10-14 days long enough to let a little aluminum bred pan w/above bulk long enough to colonize?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14522858 - 05/27/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I like to fruit cakes as cakes and inoculate grain spawn to be spawned to bulk substrates.
The pillow case method will work but is far more inferior to placing materials in bags or jars for pasteurization. You'll need a thermometer for both methods of pasteurization.
Just go to your local chain grocery store and pick you up a simple meat thermometer. They'r only 4-6 bux a piece. One from a dollar store will work.
10-14 days for colonization on those trays sounds good to me. Any period you can allow for a consolidation period of your trays would be beneficial as well.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: Doctor_Inoc]
#14522933 - 05/27/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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what about 'overlay'?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14523006 - 05/27/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Overlay is a thick myce growth covering the surface of casing layers. Overlay is caused by the casing being too dry, low humidity and/or high co2 levels.
Overlay is an issue with the casing layer and shouldn't be a concern for you unless you plan on using a casing layer.
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14523016 - 05/27/11 07:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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my avatar is a 1/4th pint cake. i had 30 of them double stacked and harvested around 3 oz dry total grow
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: velvetmagician]
#14523083 - 05/27/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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kewel! so can I cover it in plasti wrap and put holes in said plastic?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14526391 - 05/28/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What do you mean by plastic wrap? What phase of the process do you mean?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: velvetmagician]
#14526603 - 05/28/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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After mixing my sub, after putting it into my bread pans, to cover said bread pan with plastic and put holes in plastic for GE.... More clear? I plan to basically make GIANT PF/Cow manure cakes for more nutes and more surface area. I plan to fruit it PF style in my SGFC. See how kinda bulking it works out for me...
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: babz89]
#14526658 - 05/28/11 02:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I see. You could use tin foil as a cover too. Plastic wrap may puncture too easy. Will you use a dry verm barrier?
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Re: Help! PF TEK with 1/4 pints? Is it possible? [Re: velvetmagician]
#14527054 - 05/28/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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IDK but I guess I can if I do it PF style.
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