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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: LightShedder]
#14461945 - 05/16/11 12:48 PM (13 years, 6 days ago) |
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LightShedder said: A. Girl gets raped by guy.
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B. Guy pleads guilty to lesser charge to avoid jailtime
This has not been established.
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: LightShedder]
#14461949 - 05/16/11 12:49 PM (13 years, 6 days ago) |
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LightShedder said: Look at the definition of Gross Income:
Section 61 of the Internal Revenue Code defines "Gross income" as:
IRC Section 61
(a) GENERAL DEFINITION.
Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items:
End of story. You're the one going on about overly complicated shit.
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: LightShedder]
#14462019 - 05/16/11 01:03 PM (13 years, 6 days ago) |
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LightShedder said: This is a recap
A. Girl gets raped by guy. B. Guy pleads guilty to lesser charge to avoid jailtime and continues playing on school basketball team. C. Girl, cheerleader for said team, rightfully feels uncomfortable when expected to cheer for a guy who raped her (put yourself in her shoes) and refuses to cheer for guy. D. Girl gets kicked off of cheerleading squad for refusing to cheer for guy convicted in case regarding raping her.
We say, damn that's bullshit.
You guys say, no it's not. Here's the technicalities protecting the rapist and shunning the victim.
I say, fuck your laws.
Your chronology is off. He had not been convicted at the time the girl refused to cheer. Switch B and C around. And no, you do not have a constitutional right to play on the basketball team or be on the cheerleading squad. Nor is there a law that requires he or she be kicked off. It is a school policy issue and they can either kick them off or not.
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: DieCommie]
#14462730 - 05/16/11 03:27 PM (13 years, 6 days ago) |
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Why was the boy who was convicted of assault even allowed to stay on the team in the first place?
What does being on the team have to do with the criminal case? What exactly do you think that people who have served their time shouldn't be able to do? (Note that this is a completely separate argument from whether his sentence was sufficient or not)
umm, so if i go to your house, and assault a family member of yours, when i get out of jail 5 years later i should be able to play soccer on your street in front of your house like nothing happened?
i'm not trying to be sarcastic, i'm asking a serious question in a completely hypothetical sense
Why shouldn't you be able to play soccer? Is that how you guys really view the law, serve your time and then get out and be a free man except you are not allowed to play organized sports at some arbitrary distance from your victims? Sounds like you are just making it up as you go, which is no way to run a legal system.
i must have been confused. i didn't realize he was at a distance from his victim.
why is the title of this thread, cheerleader fined 45 thousand for not supporting her rapist?
it'd be fucked up to be fined 45 thousand for not supporting someone that raped you. i'll tell you the truth dog. if someone raped me and i was a chick, and this is hypothetical, let's say you could put yourself in that persons shoes. well let's just say, i'd be on my way to you with a knife, and you'd have about 5 minutes to live before I slit your throat.
i don't support anyone putting their hands on someone else, none the less raping them
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: zappaisgod]
#14462762 - 05/16/11 03:33 PM (13 years, 6 days ago) |
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LightShedder said: This is a recap
A. Girl gets raped by guy. B. Guy pleads guilty to lesser charge to avoid jailtime and continues playing on school basketball team. C. Girl, cheerleader for said team, rightfully feels uncomfortable when expected to cheer for a guy who raped her (put yourself in her shoes) and refuses to cheer for guy. D. Girl gets kicked off of cheerleading squad for refusing to cheer for guy convicted in case regarding raping her.
We say, damn that's bullshit.
You guys say, no it's not. Here's the technicalities protecting the rapist and shunning the victim.
I say, fuck your laws.
Your chronology is off. He had not been convicted at the time the girl refused to cheer. Switch B and C around. And no, you do not have a constitutional right to play on the basketball team or be on the cheerleading squad. Nor is there a law that requires he or she be kicked off. It is a school policy issue and they can either kick them off or not.
wait WHAT!!??
he was on a team of people playing soccor and she was the cheerleader? and she didn't cheer? and she is being convicted? WTF!!
what he hell is everyone in this threads problem? do you guys not have a shred of respect for people?
that's fucked up. being a cheerleader on the team your rapist is playing on? he came back to his old team? that is NOT mandatory distance.
people and their god damn theory. what is wrong with everyone in this thread?
whoops, no, zappa is being a technical asshole like usual.
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: imachavel]
#14462779 - 05/16/11 03:36 PM (13 years, 6 days ago) |
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imachavel said:
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LightShedder said: This is a recap
A. Girl gets raped by guy. B. Guy pleads guilty to lesser charge to avoid jailtime and continues playing on school basketball team. C. Girl, cheerleader for said team, rightfully feels uncomfortable when expected to cheer for a guy who raped her (put yourself in her shoes) and refuses to cheer for guy. D. Girl gets kicked off of cheerleading squad for refusing to cheer for guy convicted in case regarding raping her.
We say, damn that's bullshit.
You guys say, no it's not. Here's the technicalities protecting the rapist and shunning the victim.
I say, fuck your laws.
Your chronology is off. He had not been convicted at the time the girl refused to cheer. Switch B and C around. And no, you do not have a constitutional right to play on the basketball team or be on the cheerleading squad. Nor is there a law that requires he or she be kicked off. It is a school policy issue and they can either kick them off or not.
wait WHAT!!??
he was on a team of people playing soccor and she was the cheerleader? and she didn't cheer? and she is being convicted? WTF!!
what he hell is everyone in this threads problem? do you guys not have a shred of respect for people?
that's fucked up. being a cheerleader on the team your rapist is playing on? he came back to his old team? that is NOT mandatory distance.
people and their god damn theory. what is wrong with everyone in this thread? for once it seems zappa is the ONLY ONE not being an asshole.
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: zappaisgod]
#14462802 - 05/16/11 03:40 PM (13 years, 6 days ago) |
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i corrected my earlier post, i didn't read what you said carefully. you think the technical nonsense is just a o k that she was raped and is now being persecuted for not cheering for her cheerleader
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: imachavel]
#14462867 - 05/16/11 03:52 PM (13 years, 6 days ago) |
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imachavel said: i corrected my earlier post, i didn't read what you said carefully. you think the technical nonsense is just a o k that she was raped and is now being persecuted for not cheering for her cheerleader
No, I do not. She is being "fined" (not really) for bringing a frivolous lawsuit demanding she be reinstated and/or claiming damages. And at the time she refused to cheer her rapist had not yet been convicted and a grand jury had already chosen not to indict. Then more evidence surfaced and he was eventually convinced to plead to a lesser, but she had already been tossed off the squad by then. I repeat, the slime ball had not yet been convicted. I also very early on suggested that she sue the piece of shit in civil court to recover her losses from the frivolous suit she brought. Of course she sued the school because they have money and she knows damn well this loser rapist scumbag and his trash family don't have a nickel. Lawsuits brought against entities strictly on the basis that they have money have got to stop and people who bring them need to be punished.
People really need to stop fucking suing over bullshit like getting booted from the cheerleader squad.
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: zappaisgod]
#14463032 - 05/16/11 04:28 PM (13 years, 6 days ago) |
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i don't know about punished, but lost. like the chick that put her cat in the microwave and sued the company because there was no sign that said she couldn't microwave her cat. ridiculous.
yeah i didn't realize she didn't sue the rapist. i guess she just wants money huh? and why be on a cheerleading squad if the rapist is on the team anyway? i'd imagine she would have gone to a different school
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: LightShedder]
#14463034 - 05/16/11 04:28 PM (13 years, 6 days ago) |
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LightShedder said: JohnM are you aware what that same penal code states? It defines "income" as profits or gains from corporate interests. I.e. Corporations. It does not say labor. Conspiracy theory? Huh?
No I'm not aware of that- it isn't true. a) it isn't a 'penal code', b) you're wrong
Yes it is a conspiracy theory and absurd. The ridiculous thing is that people like you who continue to say things like this apparently don't take 5 seconds to check the law themselves before spreading it around.
Income is defined in the tax code as "all income from whatever source derived". 26 USC sec. 61(a)
How exactly do you confuse that?
I see you fail to cite the law you rely upon and instead provide (wait for it....) youtube videos as references. Fantastic. How could that have gone wrong?
For those who might be interested in what the law has to say about this matter, rather than youtube: Section 1 establishes the personal income tax and section 61 provides a definition of gross income which clearly applies to, as it says, "all income from whatever source derived":
Tax Code (Title 26) sec 61
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Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items: (1) Compensation for services, including fees, commissions, fringe benefits, and similar items; (2) Gross income derived from business; (3) Gains derived from dealings in property; (4) Interest; (5) Rents; (6) Royalties; (7) Dividends; (8) Alimony and separate maintenance payments; (9) Annuities; (10) Income from life insurance and endowment contracts; (11) Pensions; (12) Income from discharge of indebtedness; (13) Distributive share of partnership gross income; (14) Income in respect of a decedent; and (15) Income from an interest in an estate or trust. (b) Cross references For items specifically included in gross income, see part II (sec. 71 and following). For items specifically excluded from gross income, see part III (sec. 101 and following).
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: johnm214]
#14463266 - 05/16/11 05:13 PM (13 years, 6 days ago) |
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lot o stuff to read
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#14479858 - 05/19/11 05:25 PM (13 years, 3 days ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: The specific cheer was: “Two, four, six, eight, ten, come on, Rakheem, put it in.”
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: Deekay]
#14480958 - 05/19/11 08:51 PM (13 years, 2 days ago) |
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and maybe he did, we don't know if those charges are false or not 
but zappa knows he knows all
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#14481862 - 05/19/11 11:38 PM (13 years, 2 days ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: Don't be silly.
Boys will be boys, you know. 
i say she is probably a dirty filthy, got drunk, fucked him then felt bad and he talked shit so she yelled rape.
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: Psychoslut]
#14481921 - 05/19/11 11:49 PM (13 years, 2 days ago) |
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you guys are fucked in the head. girls don't yell rape for fun. its incredibly degrading and awkward and embarassing. there is a very small percentage of girls who cry rape that are bullshitting. there is a huge number of girls who have been raped nad haven't said shit.
its depressing, and attitudes like the ones you're expressing only perpetuate the problem. rape is horrible.
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: Psychoslut]
#14482608 - 05/20/11 02:59 AM (13 years, 2 days ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: Don't be silly.
Boys will be boys, you know. 
i say she is probably a dirty filthy, got drunk, fucked him then felt bad and he talked shit so she yelled rape.
Hey, they were only 5 games from going to state.
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: memes]
#14482863 - 05/20/11 05:29 AM (13 years, 2 days ago) |
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meams said: you guys are fucked in the head. girls don't yell rape for fun. its incredibly degrading and awkward and embarassing. there is a very small percentage of girls who cry rape that are bullshitting. there is a huge number of girls who have been raped nad haven't said shit.
its depressing, and attitudes like the ones you're expressing only perpetuate the problem. rape is horrible.
h.o.r.r.i.b.l.e.
Yeah, well thanks for your ruling. I realize you have intimate attachments to the issue, but you justified none of the things you've said. If your that emotionally invested in your ideas that you can't discuss them without all this moral condemnation than perhaps consider that it isn't too convincing- especially when you have a fit if people don't agree with you, which seems to be the case.
Exactly what evidence do you have to support the crap you said? Life is incredibly degrading and awkward and embarassing, and claiming rape can appear beneficial in many situations, which is why it happens- especially when external pressure is placed upon the alleged victim, the law, parents, community condemnation, whatever.
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: memes]
#14484562 - 05/20/11 01:53 PM (13 years, 2 days ago) |
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meams said: you guys are fucked in the head. girls don't yell rape for fun. its incredibly degrading and awkward and embarassing. there is a very small percentage of girls who cry rape that are bullshitting. there is a huge number of girls who have been raped nad haven't said shit.
its depressing, and attitudes like the ones you're expressing only perpetuate the problem. rape is horrible.
h.o.r.r.i.b.l.e.
I knew plenty of girls in high school who yelled rape just to get revenge and payback. Where are you finding your statistics?
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: smurf_master]
#14484567 - 05/20/11 01:54 PM (13 years, 2 days ago) |
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meams said: you guys are fucked in the head. girls don't yell rape for fun. its incredibly degrading and awkward and embarassing. there is a very small percentage of girls who cry rape that are bullshitting. there is a huge number of girls who have been raped nad haven't said shit.
its depressing, and attitudes like the ones you're expressing only perpetuate the problem. rape is horrible.
h.o.r.r.i.b.l.e.
I knew plenty of girls in high school who yelled rape just to get revenge and payback. Where are you finding your statistics?
You went to one seriously fucked up high school.
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Re: Cheerleader fined 45 thousand dollars for not supporting her rapist [Re: zappaisgod]
#14484604 - 05/20/11 02:03 PM (13 years, 2 days ago) |
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No, it wasn't the high school, it's just people in general.
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