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My brother is an fool
    #14446526 - 05/13/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well last week my younger brother (hes like 18/19 now) was driving home in my dads pick up that my dad was letting him use and my brothers friend was driving.

Long story short the friend was driving really fast around the corner and toppled the truck into a mercedez benz. The 'friend' then took off running leaving my brother  to face the car owner and the cops. Of course the cops didn't believe the guy went running and thought he was just trying to get out of it.

My brother won't hand over the name of the guy which means he is gonna be:
- Out a hell of alot of money for the repair of the truck since insurance won't cover it since they don't know who the guy was or anything
- Reckless driving charge, min 500 dollar fine + 1 month license suspension because he is still a novice driver + up to 6 month suspension.
- HUGE insurance rates

I went down to visit him and tried to talk to him about saying who it was and he refused. Says he doesn't snitch, but what I tried to explain to him is this is totally different from snitching.
The guy fucked him over, left him to face the music, and basically expects everything to be OK. And I don't get why my brother is covering for him, I guess he wants friends? His friends fucking use him anyways, and it makes me really upset. 2 Weeks ago a friend stole his phone and his keys when he was passed out drunk. I have tried to tell him that real friends don't do shit like that and they are just using him but he won't listen.

Damn I don't want him to go through this shit, he is young and doesn't realize the impact it will have on his future. I guess he is going to have to learn the hard way, but I don't know what else to do.

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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14446529 - 05/13/11 04:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

your brother needs to stop being a hero and give the cops the guys name...


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: learningtofly]
    #14446537 - 05/13/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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your brother needs to stop being a hero and give the cops the guys name...




I know. Its totally different from snitching. The guy fucked him over.
That is unacceptable. Snitching on a dealer / cook / another drug user to get a reduced prison sentence is different. You knew the risk going in, you have to face the music.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14446539 - 05/13/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you need to shit on your brother's head and tell him you're just being his friend


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14446541 - 05/13/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well if he wants to hold himself to zero tolerance for snitching standards than let him figure out the hard way. He is going to learn something one way or the other.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14446551 - 05/13/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Naw, that's definitely still snitching.
Not sure what I would do though.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14446554 - 05/13/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Naw, that's definitely still snitching.
Not sure what I would do though.




Well then I guess some snitching is OK.
Technically telling the cops about someone raping another person is snitching too...


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: learningtofly] * 1
    #14446562 - 05/13/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Victimless crimes you don't snitch on, this guy fucked your brother, I don't see this as snitching... at all.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: PreparationH]
    #14446570 - 05/13/11 04:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Victimless crimes you don't snitch on, this guy fucked your brother, I don't see this as snitching... at all.




Exactly. I also want to pound the shit out of this guy for doing it to my brother.
I am guessing that there might be something else too - my bro is gay so maybe the guy is using him...


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14446604 - 05/13/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it's not snitching if they blatantly screwed you


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14446644 - 05/13/11 05:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

YOU ARE THE FOOL!  :ahahaha:
You used 'an' before fool, 'f' is not a vowel! :suckit:


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14446666 - 05/13/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"My brother is A fool" - fixed.

Just thought it was kind of ironic.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: NlightNme]
    #14446682 - 05/13/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:facepalm: Shroomery is tarded these days, yes, he made a typo, very good children.



Yea let us know, hope your brother sees the light, this is wack that guy hit and ran, obvious assclown.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: PreparationH]
    #14446766 - 05/13/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have legal experience and your brother doesn't have to prove he wasn't driving the car. the cops have to prove he was. so he doesn't have to snitch he just has to deny that he was driving and let the cops prove it. At least thats how it works in uk...beyond reasonable doubt


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: skidog]
    #14446783 - 05/13/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

in terms of insurance he's probaly fucked tho


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: 28064212]
    #14446786 - 05/13/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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YOU ARE THE FOOL!  :ahahaha:
You used 'an' before fool, 'f' is not a vowel! :suckit:



:fonz:

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:facepalm: Shroomery is tarded these days, yes, he made a typo, very good children.








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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: PreparationH]
    #14447033 - 05/13/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Victimless crimes you don't snitch on, this guy fucked your brother, I don't see this as snitching... at all.




DING DING DING, we have a winner.


If anything hopefully your brother will beat his "friend" to a inch of his life.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: learningtofly]
    #14447104 - 05/13/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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your brother needs to stop being a hero and give the cops the guys name...




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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Newlord]
    #14447184 - 05/13/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

your brother is an idiot..

give that dudes name up..

and let your brother see this thread.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: rackem] * 2
    #14447318 - 05/13/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

maybe your brother is just a shitty driver and there was no other guy.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: stuntmanmike]
    #14447421 - 05/13/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Your brother sounds like he's not all there if he is willing to take the rap for this :shrug:


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14447427 - 05/13/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Your brother sounds like he's not all there if he is willing to take the rap for this :shrug:




It sounds like he has delusions of G'ness.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14447435 - 05/13/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ya no other driver would be a likely story if wrecked pops truck.

but he didnt post this in the conspiracy forum :tinfoil:


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14448114 - 05/13/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nope, definitely not snitching if the guy ran off like a big chickenshit. Your brother is a young fool for protecting him.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14449041 - 05/14/11 12:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I"m with you OP, I'd never snitch but I also wouldn't take the fall for someone if they did something like that, bailed, and let me get arrested for it.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Pigasus] * 1
    #14449128 - 05/14/11 01:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm going to give your brother the benefit of the doubt and suggest maybe there was something else to it; like he and his friend had a fat sack on them and his friend ran off with it before the authorities arrived.:shrug:


Or does your brother usually befriend assholes?


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14449233 - 05/14/11 01:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

its definitely snitching, but fuck that guy. the high road would be to suffer the consequences of having such a shitty friend and then never look his way again. the understandable low road would be to fuck that guy over.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: g00ru]
    #14449292 - 05/14/11 02:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea I can see three possibilities here:

1- There was no 2nd guy and ur bro is just embarrassed that he's a dumbass
2- There was a 2nd guy and they had drugs or something so your bro said he'd take the rap if the other guy dipped with the stash
3- It's true, in which case your brother is a fucking :tard:


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Anthony917]
    #14449314 - 05/14/11 02:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

insurance wont bad at all.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Leanin]
    #14449321 - 05/14/11 02:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

snitchin is when you blame someone for something you did


who did i hear that from??


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Konyap]
    #14449325 - 05/14/11 02:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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snitchin is when you blame someone for something you did


who did i hear that from??




no, snitchin is when someone did something wrong, you saw it, but to keep them out of trouble you don't say shit.
Although, if you're getting fucked because of what someone else did...then you tell the truth. That's not snitchin.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Anthony917]
    #14449350 - 05/14/11 02:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Yea I can see three possibilities here:

1- There was no 2nd guy and ur bro is just embarrassed that he's a dumbass
2- There was a 2nd guy and they had drugs or something so your bro said he'd take the rap if the other guy dipped with the stash
3- It's true, in which case your brother is a fucking :tard:




4- Your brother was possibly giving him oral sex while driving causing him to veer off the road into the Mercedes  :datass:


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    #14449688 - 05/14/11 05:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Anthony917 said:
Yea I can see three possibilities here:

1- There was no 2nd guy and ur bro is just embarrassed that he's a dumbass
2- There was a 2nd guy and they had drugs or something so your bro said he'd take the rap if the other guy dipped with the stash
3- It's true, in which case your brother is a fucking :tard:




4- Your brother was possibly giving him oral sex while driving causing him to veer off the road into the Mercedes  :datass:





Best post in the thread so far! I'm going with option 4 for the win! Your brother was tonsils deep on dudes balls drivin down the road and doesn't want everyone to know he's ghey... not sure why dude would have taken off... warrants maybe?


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14449857 - 05/14/11 07:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I believe it is your dad that gets fucked by the insurance rates, since it is HIS liability for the vehicle.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14450376 - 05/14/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I went down to visit him and tried to talk to him about saying who it was and he refused. Says he doesn't snitch, but what I tried to explain to him is this is totally different from snitching.





LOL


Speaking to the police is snitching.  Period.

If you have a problem, go handle it yourself.

If you go to the immoral, illogical, irrational men with guns to help you you're like to get hurt yourself.  If you don't, REST ASSURED they won't handle the situation better than a moderately intelligent person could have by themselves.



Calling the police to report a murder is snitching and if you lived anywhere near people that don't play in regards to snitching you'd understand that, perhaps not respect it but you'd certainly understand it.




Talking to the police

Is snitching.




How about these apples: I'm in my 20s and when I was being a teenage retard I *always* drove my OWN CAR, even when I was on shrooms (bad decision of course).

I've never in my entire life let someone else sit in the driver's seat of a vehicle that was registered to me or my parents.

Hopefully your brother learns from this mistake and doesn't allow himself to be placed in this situation again.  It is your brother's fault (indirectly) that this accident transpired.  He could have prevented this.

His mistake lead to negative consequences and apparently he is man enough to accept them without trying to remedy everything by cashing in someone else's ass.



Implicating someone else in a crime, any crime, is snitching.  Telling on yourself and not involving anyone else is NOT snitching for the same reason that doing meth or heroin isn't immoral.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14450383 - 05/14/11 10:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

just noticed the title of this thread is my brother is AN fool


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    #14450625 - 05/14/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Anthony917 said:
Yea I can see three possibilities here:

1- There was no 2nd guy and ur bro is just embarrassed that he's a dumbass
2- There was a 2nd guy and they had drugs or something so your bro said he'd take the rap if the other guy dipped with the stash
3- It's true, in which case your brother is a fucking :tard:




4- Your brother was possibly giving him oral sex while driving causing him to veer off the road into the Mercedes  :datass:




Best post in the thread so far! I'm going with option 4 for the win! Your brother was tonsils deep on dudes balls drivin down the road and doesn't want everyone to know he's ghey... not sure why dude would have taken off... warrants maybe?



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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14451690 - 05/14/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I went down to visit him and tried to talk to him about saying who it was and he refused. Says he doesn't snitch, but what I tried to explain to him is this is totally different from snitching.





LOL


Speaking to the police is snitching.  Period.

If you have a problem, go handle it yourself.

If you go to the immoral, illogical, irrational men with guns to help you you're like to get hurt yourself.  If you don't, REST ASSURED they won't handle the situation better than a moderately intelligent person could have by themselves.



Calling the police to report a murder is snitching and if you lived anywhere near people that don't play in regards to snitching you'd understand that, perhaps not respect it but you'd certainly understand it.




Talking to the police

Is snitching.




How about these apples: I'm in my 20s and when I was being a teenage retard I *always* drove my OWN CAR, even when I was on shrooms (bad decision of course).

I've never in my entire life let someone else sit in the driver's seat of a vehicle that was registered to me or my parents.

Hopefully your brother learns from this mistake and doesn't allow himself to be placed in this situation again.  It is your brother's fault (indirectly) that this accident transpired.  He could have prevented this.

His mistake lead to negative consequences and apparently he is man enough to accept them without trying to remedy everything by cashing in someone else's ass.



Implicating someone else in a crime, any crime, is snitching.  Telling on yourself and not involving anyone else is NOT snitching for the same reason that doing meth or heroin isn't immoral.




your just to brainwashed by fear and intimidation to realize that he wasnt driving the car it was the other guy, if the other guy didnt have a license its his fault but whos to say his friend followed the laws and got in trouble

chances are the friend is a meathead and the brother is a poser

ive known people who have drivin shitty and even when they got in the accident the friend would leave because they wouldnt want to get dragged down with them

their is no street code people actually have been paying for you and you have been paying them most of your life and your not goin to get away from that ever no matter how wigger you are!


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    #14451746 - 05/14/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If you went to a guys farm and walked into his barn and saw him with a dead women on a meat hook and him cutting her up and u ran then told the police, it would not be snitching it would be karma for the serial killer.


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    #14451778 - 05/14/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If you went to a guys farm and walked into his barn and saw him with a dead women on a meat hook and him cutting her up and u ran then told the police, it would not be snitching it would be karma for the serial killer.






I'd murder him.

Especially if she were still alive; I'd shoot that person dead, immediately.

I wouldn't "ran then told the police".


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    #14451786 - 05/14/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Btw, wtf am I doing on some guy's farm all up in his barn and shit?  My guess is trespassing, especially if he's in the middle of cutting someone up.

Still, I'd do him.


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    #14451787 - 05/14/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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    #14451825 - 05/14/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yea humility you seem to be confused as to what is snitching and what is not snitching.

If you aren't going to get busted, then you never snitch. If you have nothing to lose, and you didn't do anything...then you keep your mouth shut.
If someone fucks you over and you're facing penalties & possible jailtime, and you tell the cops, that's not snitching.


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    #14452479 - 05/14/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I went down to visit him and tried to talk to him about saying who it was and he refused. Says he doesn't snitch, but what I tried to explain to him is this is totally different from snitching.





LOL


Speaking to the police is snitching.  Period.

If you have a problem, go handle it yourself.

If you go to the immoral, illogical, irrational men with guns to help you you're like to get hurt yourself.  If you don't, REST ASSURED they won't handle the situation better than a moderately intelligent person could have by themselves.



Calling the police to report a murder is snitching and if you lived anywhere near people that don't play in regards to snitching you'd understand that, perhaps not respect it but you'd certainly understand it.




Talking to the police

Is snitching.




How about these apples: I'm in my 20s and when I was being a teenage retard I *always* drove my OWN CAR, even when I was on shrooms (bad decision of course).

I've never in my entire life let someone else sit in the driver's seat of a vehicle that was registered to me or my parents.

Hopefully your brother learns from this mistake and doesn't allow himself to be placed in this situation again.  It is your brother's fault (indirectly) that this accident transpired.  He could have prevented this.

His mistake lead to negative consequences and apparently he is man enough to accept them without trying to remedy everything by cashing in someone else's ass.



Implicating someone else in a crime, any crime, is snitching.  Telling on yourself and not involving anyone else is NOT snitching for the same reason that doing meth or heroin isn't immoral.



What if i were to kill you and your family members, and your neighbor saw it was me. But we're cool. So he doesn't tell the cops it was me.


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    #14452568 - 05/14/11 05:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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yea humility you seem to be confused as to what is snitching and what is not snitching.

If you aren't going to get busted, then you never snitch. If you have nothing to lose, and you didn't do anything...then you keep your mouth shut.
If someone fucks you over and you're facing penalties & possible jailtime, and you tell the cops, that's not snitching.





I don't even know what to say to this.

Where are you from?  Where were you raised?  I was born and live in an area where if you're a snitch, you don't live here because thugs will murder you and kids will destroy your property (fuck up your car, bust your windows in etc.)

The first time I learned to not be a rat (worded exactly like that) was from my mother, and I couldn't have been older than 6 or 8.


Come around where I stay and start telling stories about what you saw and see what happens.  See what they term, how they define your behavior.  See if they call you a community supporter, a paragon of safety and security.  Or maybe they'll call you a snitch and murder you as you step outside your door on the way to your car.

Snitching is talking to the police, period.  Where you live, in daisy cookie-cutter land, it might be something different, but here; where the word originated and where the word is used daily, it means talking to the police, period about anything period.

Little kids don't even talk to the police.

Snitching falls under the hierarchy of "mind your own business" to some extent and "never speak with the police" to another.  If you fail to do that, you might catch a few while sitting at the red light.  Everyone will know who you are and what you did and no one will give a fuck when you're dead because they might have been the next one you went telling stories on trying to get locked up.




Lovecheese - My neighbor and I loan each other money all the time (more like me to him) and both of us are strapped.  He knows that if I see someone creeping around his property that I'm going to put the sights on them, command them to remain motionless and then notify him so he can handle the situation from there.


If you kill me, you better run fast because the police station is literally 20 seconds away on a vehicle.  In addition I live on a fairly busy thoroughfare.  Also, like I said, my neighbor is right next door and no one is a bitch about their shit.  If I hear gunshots in the middle of the night coming from closeby I'm going to grab my gun and check the situation out, whether or not the shots are coming from inside my house. 

I'd like to think he'd do the same, but who knows.  Either way, your chances of successful escape just went down when robbing/invading the home of a gun owner living directly next to another gun owner.

And then there's that whole "IF" thing.  Try not to get shot in the face making you way into my house (for the record I like to advocate attempts at less-than-lethal shooting if at all possible).  I usually don't go to bed until 5 or 6 in the morning anyway :-\.


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    #14452587 - 05/14/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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    #14452854 - 05/14/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, telling 'stories' to cover your own ass is one thing. Taking responsibility for your actions is another. His friend ran, to leave him to take the rap. If it went down like that, I'd say that isn't considered snitching. People get too hung up on this snitching shit anyway. His friend fucked him(maybe literally?) and the right thing to do is to fess up. He made a mistake, he should be held responsible. Your brother, too, is also responsible. He made the mistake of letting him drive. They could split the damages, and the penalties, IMO. :shrug:


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    #14452892 - 05/14/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Wish I had money..

Sucks for ur bro

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    #14452907 - 05/14/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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    #14466591 - 05/17/11 07:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Well last week my younger brother (hes like 18/19 now) was driving home in my dads pick up that my dad was letting him use and my brothers friend was driving.





Your brother's 'An' retard.  I guess you shouldn't let other people drive your Dad's truck?  He should probably just suck it up and take the blunt end of the lawrapestick.  Who gives their dad's truck's key's to someone else?

Smells like your brother's telling bullshit to the family.  He probably Was the one to wreck the vehicle... his running friend just probably had the drugs.


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    #14466671 - 05/17/11 07:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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yea humility you seem to be confused as to what is snitching and what is not snitching.

If you aren't going to get busted, then you never snitch. If you have nothing to lose, and you didn't do anything...then you keep your mouth shut.
If someone fucks you over and you're facing penalties & possible jailtime, and you tell the cops, that's not snitching.





I don't even know what to say to this.

Where are you from?  Where were you raised?  I was born and live in an area where if you're a snitch, you don't live here because thugs will murder you and kids will destroy your property (fuck up your car, bust your windows in etc.)

The first time I learned to not be a rat (worded exactly like that) was from my mother, and I couldn't have been older than 6 or 8.


Come around where I stay and start telling stories about what you saw and see what happens.  See what they term, how they define your behavior.  See if they call you a community supporter, a paragon of safety and security.  Or maybe they'll call you a snitch and murder you as you step outside your door on the way to your car.

Snitching is talking to the police, period.  Where you live, in daisy cookie-cutter land, it might be something different, but here; where the word originated and where the word is used daily, it means talking to the police, period about anything period.

Little kids don't even talk to the police.

Snitching falls under the hierarchy of "mind your own business" to some extent and "never speak with the police" to another.  If you fail to do that, you might catch a few while sitting at the red light.  Everyone will know who you are and what you did and no one will give a fuck when you're dead because they might have been the next one you went telling stories on trying to get locked up.




Lovecheese - My neighbor and I loan each other money all the time (more like me to him) and both of us are strapped.  He knows that if I see someone creeping around his property that I'm going to put the sights on them, command them to remain motionless and then notify him so he can handle the situation from there.


If you kill me, you better run fast because the police station is literally 20 seconds away on a vehicle.  In addition I live on a fairly busy thoroughfare.  Also, like I said, my neighbor is right next door and no one is a bitch about their shit.  If I hear gunshots in the middle of the night coming from closeby I'm going to grab my gun and check the situation out, whether or not the shots are coming from inside my house. 

I'd like to think he'd do the same, but who knows.  Either way, your chances of successful escape just went down when robbing/invading the home of a gun owner living directly next to another gun owner.

And then there's that whole "IF" thing.  Try not to get shot in the face making you way into my house (for the record I like to advocate attempts at less-than-lethal shooting if at all possible).  I usually don't go to bed until 5 or 6 in the morning anyway :-\.






You need to move the fuck out of wherever you live.  Behavior like that is nothing to be proud of.  What do you think this is, Lord of the Flies?  Real community isn't based on a mutual fear of each other.

While I agree that cops are idiots and usually fuck up more than they get right, they're already talking to homeboy's fool brother because they think he wrecked his car.  It's not snitching for him to tell the truth, or to give the asshole the option of turning himself in before the truth is revealed.

I have a good friend who took the rap for a friend who borrowed his car and wrecked it drunk one night, then fled the scene.  He was young at the time, and didn't want to "snitch out" his friend.  After over 15 years since the incident, he recently lost an opportunity to retain a permanent position at the company he'd just landed a 50K/year job at, when they conducted a background check and decided that they didn't want someone with that on their record.

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    #14466759 - 05/17/11 07:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If I were you OP, I would beat the shit out of your brother until he told you who did it. He needs to learn that you talk to the cops when someone is blatantly fucking you over. I wouldn't talk to the cops over drug shit because I know what I'm getting myself into in that situation, but shit like this I would call the cops and give as much information to them so they could catch him immediately.

I call the cops on kids throwing picnic tables into the pond down by the town park. That's not snitching, that's giving those little shits what they deserve. MY taxes pay for those picnic tables and they are just being assholes and destroying the park. I call the cops on drunks fighting in front of the bar by my house because shit escalates and I've seen someone get beat unconscious and still get kicked around. I've seen 10 girls beat the shit out of a pregnant woman over a parking space. I ran down there and stopped it, but I also was on the phone with the cops giving licence plate numbers out and descriptions. I call the cops when I see someone hit my neighbors car and drive off. FUCK THAT. They need to be in jail for being fucking assholes and breaking REAL laws that hurt other people. Cops are useful when REAL crimes against other people are happening. They have their purpose. I hate cops, but I will put them to work if the situation requires it.

My sister called the cops on this family that lived int he house behind hers. Their kid was hitting my niece with metal pipes and throwing rocks at her. The girls parents wouldn't do shit about it so my sister called the cops. The cops show up and 5 guys went running form the house with duffel bags obviously full of drugs. That wasn't anyones fault but those ghetto ass parents. If they wouldn't have allowed their daughter to harm other people and then laugh about it, then they wouldn't have had the cops called on them and had to GTFO of there like that. They haven't been back since. Not one person.

There are reasons to call the cops and I will do it EVERY time if someone is being victimized. That isn't snitching, that's stopping someone from hurting other people or their property and the people deserve what they get coming to them.

OP needs to sit his brother down and beat his brother up for being a idiot. His parents need to threaten him with military school or something huge for this. He thinks he is being a good friend and all he is doing is stopping a real criminal from being caught.

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    #14466814 - 05/17/11 08:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I come from where kids place "Snitchin'" signs below stop signs on major thoroughfares for fun.


80%+ of the people in this thread come from the land of "If you see something, say something".



Desert peoples trying to tell an Eskimo about snow.  Ya'll just don't know.

Keep your stories in the burbs; I'll take my ghettos any and every day.  Crackheads, skeevs, jackboys, dope boys, fine women walking around half naked, boys in blue coming through starting shit.

All the while you folks peek out your windows pointing fingers at each other lol.  Do what you will but keep that shit over there.

Authentic.

Scienceguy - I'm infinitely more safe and comfortable where I am than I would be in most anywhere else.  I can do whatever I want where I live and (most) people know and respect me and my property.  When I walk by people on the street I speak to everyone and 80% of people speak back, including the dope boys and the jack boys.

I can sit on the front steps of my house and smoke a blunt and 50 people will walk by and no one will do anything except maybe ask to hit that bitch.

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    #14466842 - 05/17/11 08:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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lol you dont get it






What don't I get?  You're juxtaposing that if something bad happens to me suddenly I'd change my opinions and convictions about life?


Not likely.  If someone murdered me inside of my home I'd want a funeral ceremony (preferably a natural one and not a "Traditional" christian ceremony) and for my relatives to hunt that individual down and prevent them from harming others.

I wouldn't want the police to be called under any circumstances.

I've never dialed "911" in my life, ever, not once.

And I never will.

YOU don't get it homie.  It's easy to miss though, growing up where and how you do.  You're experiencing cultural relativism and as such are having a very difficult time understanding where I'm coming from.

I understand where you're coming from, I just see numerous holes in your logic (lol the police will protect you) and I vehemently disagree with you.




Here's the most clear I can make it to you:  To you, the police are a NEUTRAL entity that YOU feel YOU can call upon.  You feel like you have the ability to SUMMON them.

I see the police as a gang, and a very powerful one, like the Mexican Mafia.  I would never call on the Mexican Mafia for help.  I don't support the way they operate and wouldn't want to involve myself in any way with them.


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    #14466855 - 05/17/11 08:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

lol I wouldn't live in a place like that if you paid me to. I live in a small town in Indiana and our neighbors have each others backs by following the laws that are here to protect us. My neighbors are cops and firemen. I live a block from the police station, the firehouse, 6 bars and 4 churches. It's calm around here. You could walk down the middle of the street at night waving 100000 bucks around and no one would even think about robbing you. My wife could go running at midnight through the park naked and she would be fine. That would be stupid anywhere, but generally she wouldn't have to worry. We call the cops if we see crime here. Shit, old people call the cops if they see someone throwing grass in a trash can. Those assholes get stares from everyone tho. The cops stop coming when they call.

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    #14466872 - 05/17/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Keep your stories in the burbs; I'll take my ghettos any and every day.  Crackheads, skeevs, jackboys, dope boys, fine women walking around half naked, boys in blue coming through starting shit.

All the while you folks peek out your windows pointing fingers at each other lol.  Do what you will but keep that shit over there.






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    #14466874 - 05/17/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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lol I wouldn't live in a place like that if you paid me to. I live in a small town in Indiana and our neighbors have each others backs by following the laws that are here to protect us. My neighbors are cops and firemen. I live a block from the police station, the firehouse, 6 bars and 4 churches. It's calm around here. You could walk down the middle of the street at night waving 100000 bucks around and no one would even think about robbing you. My wife could go running at midnight through the park naked and she would be fine. That would be stupid anywhere, but generally she wouldn't have to worry. We call the cops if we see crime here. Shit, old people call the cops if they see someone throwing grass in a trash can. Those assholes get stares from everyone tho. The cops stop coming when they call.

You live in a whole different world than I do I'll give you that.





I could literally *never* live in a place like that.

I'd be terrified, and rightfully so.



Around here, as long as you don't in fact go running around naked in the streets or waving around 100k (LOL you'd catch'em so fast...) you'd be perfectly fine, and that goes for whatever color your skin.


I have the feeling that where you live (especially Indiana) people say the word "nigger" a lot and I'd probably receive death threats just by moving in.  I'd also probably get hassled by the police (and even the firemen LOL) all the time.




The ghetto is much kinder to outsiders than suburbia is.  In different ways, but IMO kinder.  It helps if you don't act like a retard (forgetting that you're around a bunch of poor and desirous motherfuckers)


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    #14466877 - 05/17/11 08:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah at 5 dollars a sucky sucky I'd say it's much more kind.  Usually you gotta fork out real money for that.


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    #14466878 - 05/17/11 08:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Maverick - You're confused homie.  That's a pic of one of your burbs women that come bring money to individuals in the neighborhood.

She's also got a lot of you in her.  She'll tell stories quick to get off charges of sucking cocks or holding rocks or whatever it was she was doing wrong.

That's how ya'll taught her though.  What can ya do.  The shit keeps rolling.


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    #14466881 - 05/17/11 08:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nah, I'm pretty sure that bitch is walking through your hood right now, trying to score some crack.


Our women are addicted to coke, not crack.  I'm also pretty sure it's You who's inside her too :wink:


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    #14466902 - 05/17/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

LOL you just displayed your ignorance publicly.  I'm gonna quote you so you can't erase it.


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Nah, I'm pretty sure that bitch is walking through your hood right now, trying to score some crack.


Our women are addicted to coke, not crack.  I'm also pretty sure it's You who's inside her too :wink:




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    #14466903 - 05/17/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I am comfortable where I live in the safety I have, and also enjoy a good relationship with the community I'm part of, while living in the heart of a major city also.  I smoke weed openly and am not harassed.  I don't feel threatened, and it has nothing to do with an inflated sense of how difficult my particular struggle is, or how well I have adapted to it.

How does living in reactive and condoning manner to a culture that takes a zero-tolerance (read: zero-thought) policy to involving ANY sort of police intervention exemplify freedom?  Even if you wanted to, you've been so culturally conditioned that calling the police is not even an option to you.

Tell me, who's really free?



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The ghetto is much kinder to outsiders than suburbia is.  In different ways, but IMO kinder.  It helps if you don't act like a retard.





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    #14466907 - 05/17/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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lol I wouldn't live in a place like that if you paid me to. I live in a small town in Indiana and our neighbors have each others backs by following the laws that are here to protect us. My neighbors are cops and firemen. I live a block from the police station, the firehouse, 6 bars and 4 churches. It's calm around here. You could walk down the middle of the street at night waving 100000 bucks around and no one would even think about robbing you. My wife could go running at midnight through the park naked and she would be fine. That would be stupid anywhere, but generally she wouldn't have to worry. We call the cops if we see crime here. Shit, old people call the cops if they see someone throwing grass in a trash can. Those assholes get stares from everyone tho. The cops stop coming when they call.

You live in a whole different world than I do I'll give you that.





I could literally *never* live in a place like that.

I'd be terrified, and rightfully so.



Around here, as long as you don't in fact go running around naked in the streets or waving around 100k (LOL you'd catch'em so fast...) you'd be perfectly fine, and that goes for whatever color your skin.


I have the feeling that where you live (especially Indiana) people say the word "nigger" a lot and I'd probably receive death threats just by moving in.  I'd also probably get hassled by the police (and even the firemen LOL) all the time.




The ghetto is much kinder to outsiders than suburbia is.  In different ways, but IMO kinder.  It helps if you don't act like a retard (forgetting that you're around a bunch of poor and desirous motherfuckers)



Yeah your pretty much right. If your a young black kid walking down the street your getting arrested for something. The next city over you'd be fine, but here they would want to know wtf you were doing. I've literally seen these cops stop a black kid and arrest him for damn near nothing. Then 20 minutes later they were breaking up a fight full of white people at the bar a block over and just telling everyone to go home or get back in the bar.

Fucked up I know. I only see people that aren't white when I go 10 minutes into the city to walmart or the mall. We're not far from the city, but it's a different world between the two. I know there are a lot of black people that live in the government housing apartments on the edge of our town, but no one goes there and they don't come in town unless they are on the bus to school or the grocery store. I don't shop there because it's a shitty store tho, I drive into the city where they actually know what fresh fruit is. Well that's if the Amish aren't selling it at their stands when the weather is good.

Different worlds man.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14466909 - 05/17/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Some crackheads are born.

Crack baby

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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14466916 - 05/17/11 08:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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LOL you just displayed your ignorance publicly.  I'm gonna quote you so you can't erase it.


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Nah, I'm pretty sure that bitch is walking through your hood right now, trying to score some crack.


Our women are addicted to coke, not crack.  I'm also pretty sure it's You who's inside her too :wink:




You think crackheads are born?  No, no my friend, crackheads are made.







That looks like a ghetto to me.  That one suburbia chick is one in a million.  The girls here look for coke, not crack.  Dunno what nasty ghetto you live in though.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Maverick]
    #14466925 - 05/17/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Are you purposefully missing the point?

Did you learn about cuffing?

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    #14466927 - 05/17/11 08:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Bubba is that you? :chillin:
For real most people don't carry guns with them everywhere they go and kill people themselves. It would be a crazy fucking world without cops to catch murderers. It'd be like if Iraq was put in the US.
Just because you're culture taught you snitchin on murders is bad doesn't mean its true:rofl:
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    #14466935 - 05/17/11 08:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you purposefully missing the point?

Did you learn about cuffing?

I'm trying to educate you here.





We live in two different worlds, maybe it's because the westcoast is like a different country than the eastcoast.  Your cultural lifestyle is far different from ours.


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    #14467033 - 05/17/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Maverick - You're confused homie.  That's a pic of one of your burbs women that come bring money to individuals in the neighborhood.

She's also got a lot of you in her.  She'll tell stories quick to get off charges of sucking cocks or holding rocks or whatever it was she was doing wrong.

That's how ya'll taught her though.  What can ya do.  The shit keeps rolling.




I'm sorry you're poor and can't afford to live in a nice neighbourhood.  I totally understand why you try and justify it to yourself - it would suck living somewhere disgusting and poor because you can afford to live somewhere nice.

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    #14467036 - 05/17/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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    #14467050 - 05/17/11 09:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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:facepalm: Shroomery is tarded these days, yes, he made a typo, very good children.






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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Maverick] * 2
    #14467473 - 05/17/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Where's the typo? I don't see an typo.



:Trollface:


Also, I live in a no snitch area too, it's called Earth.  The only difference is most people realize that if the crime has victims, you open your mouth.  Shame on those who wouldn't talk to police over a rape or murder, wtf is wrong with you?


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #14467586 - 05/17/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If I see a rape or murder taking place someone is going to be in a lot of trouble, and immediately.

I'm not going to call the police so the assailant can escape and go hurt other people.

Most importantly the police get things wrong all the time.  What happens when you try to get a rapist locked up and the police go arrest some innocent guy who goes to jail and gets ass-pounded until he hangs himself?  What portion of the responsibility for his death will you assume captain Save-a-hoe?

The police aren't good guys.  They are violent and ignorant gang members and summoning them in order to demonstrate that "you care" is a fault of logic.

Take action yourself.  Resolve the situation yourself or with family and friends.




Also, pwnasaurus your material was IMO over the line of "flaming".  I've said nicer things to folks (Pris: "eat a dick" is an actual emoticon) and received "official warnings".


Truthfully I'm all for flaming, but I don't want either of us to get reprimanded or even worse, Coastered over it.

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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Maverick]
    #14467647 - 05/17/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Half naked sucky sucky






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    #14467657 - 05/17/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Naw, that's definitely still snitching.
Not sure what I would do though.




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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14467691 - 05/17/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Crazy reading all the differences in this thread between city, suburb, country life etc...
I can see where you come from though. I have a feeling the cops in a big city are more apt to be corrupt or just don't give a fuck. Seeing it every day everywhere they look. In a smaller town I can guess there would be less apathy.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14467694 - 05/17/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

how about this scenario

his brother lends his friend a pistol registered in his name

someone gets shot, the gun gets found, the cops knock on his brothers door

the friend has fucking disappeared, probably at least a couple states away by now

his brother should just catch the beef, right?


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: DrMambo]
    #14467726 - 05/17/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I live in a major city.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: DrMambo]
    #14467739 - 05/17/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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how about this scenario

his brother lends his friend a pistol registered in his name

someone gets shot, the gun gets found, the cops knock on his brothers door

the friend has fucking disappeared, probably at least a couple states away by now

his brother should just catch the beef, right?






Dude are you fucking insane?  The entire point being missed here is to not loan out your fucking property if you don't want to be responsible for what may happen as a result.  I'm not saying that you should take the rap or that you should even be charged, but if you were more RESPONSIBLE in the first place, there would be no incident to speak of.  You are INDIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the event even occuring.

The police and courts don't care about that or see it that way.  You know that ahead of time!!!  When you loan out your car or your gun to someone you KNOW that there is a POSSIBILITY that something like this is going to happen.


People like you make the decision to say that "well I'll just do it anyway because it's convenient for me, and if something bad *does* happen, X better just take responsibility for it (talk to the police, tell the police the way events unfolded in his version;) or else I'll make sure the police know because I'll tell them myself!"


That's what you do.

I realize that the possibility of someone getting in an accident with my firearms or my vehicles and the complexity and risk that would be involved with that kind of decision.

Guess what I do when someone asks to borrow my vehicles?  [LOL for the record, who in the *fuck* "Loans" someone else a gun?  Like why?  Come the fuck on dude.]

Guess why I do what I do?


Responsibility.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Maverick]
    #14467752 - 05/17/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Smells like your brother's telling bullshit to the family.  He probably Was the one to wreck the vehicle... his running friend just probably had the drugs.




This, except did anyone even see a person fleeing the car?

He catches the heat, so he gets to feel kind of punished, but he doesn't have to deal with family bs at the moment.

6 years down the road he can be all, "there was no friend", and everyone can laugh and hug.


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    #14467760 - 05/17/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Also, I live in a no snitch area too, it's called Earth.  The only difference is most people realize that if the crime has victims, you open your mouth.  Shame on those who wouldn't talk to police over a rape or murder, wtf is wrong with you?




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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14467774 - 05/17/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I am not a "full vegan" on the no snitching thing. I only consider something snitching if it is done to get you out of something u did, or to hurt someone that's not hurting someone else.

If someone is being robbed in front of my building, I have to call the cops. It could be my mom being robbed the next time.

And I have lived in a shitty area my entire life. I know the "g-code" and all. But Why would I want my hood to be on some Wild West shit? I would never snitch on a dealer, or anything stupid like that. Folk need their dope, but u can't even call the police for a murder? Dam bruh. And I know that's how it is in many places in the world, but I don't think I'm built for that life. I know most are born into that life tho, so I'm glad u like it there.

I really doubt u are as welcoming to outsiders as u say though. If anyone that is not recognized walks into that kinda hood, they are gonna get some negative attention.


Oh yeah, and I think ur brother is an liar. There seems to be some missing info. Either drugs or alcohol involved. Or your brother is just a weak bitch. The road head thing is a possibility too.

If dude wasn't willing to help me pay for the damages (and it seems like he won't), I would drop his name off quick.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14467791 - 05/17/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I realize that the possibility of someone getting in an accident with my firearms or my vehicles and the complexity and risk that would be involved with that kind of decision.

Guess what I do when someone asks to borrow my vehicles?  [LOL for the record, who in the *fuck* "Loans" someone else a gun?  Like why?  Come the fuck on dude.]

Guess why I do what I do?


Responsibility.




I, personally, agree with that.

the gun the was a pretty out there, unless it's a bunch of hunters with rifles or something, I was just using it to exemplify a point


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: DrMambo]
    #14467859 - 05/17/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's different to be caught with drugs and snitch on someone to get out of a big, scary charge. Because in that situation, you actually committed a crime and were dumb enough to get caught for it. And you should probably be slaughtered for throwing someone else under the bus.

Here, in this situation, he didn't do anything wrong. BUT HE'S GONNA GET FUCKED FOR NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG BECAUSE HIS "FRIEND" IS A LITTLE BITCH WHO CAN'T MAN UP TO THE CONSEQUENCES OF HIS ACTIONS. In my opinion, his friend snitched on him by running. That's like getting pulled over with a mixed stash of drugs and pointing a finger at someone else when half the dope is yours.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: lovecheese]
    #14467974 - 05/17/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

No, it's more like getting pulled over in your car driving someone else's dope and then when your buddy runs away (he's driving with you) after an accident you snitch him out because it "isn't fair" that only one of you got busted, and "well they were his drugs anyway!"

How did he get in your car again???





For the record; I'm not opining about the snitching thing.  As a buddhist, I believe that if you feel the need to speak with the police about something, and that you do that, that it's whatever.  I personally will judge that kind of action very carefully in determining whether or not I'd involve myself with you in the future, and there are certainly family members of mine that have called the police and speak with the police and still use illegal substances or what have you.

Do whatever you feel like you need to do, really.  Karma will resolve itself and if you made an appropriate decision, the consequences of the decision will reflect that.  For me, it might not ever be right to call the police, but that might not be the case for some other person.  I'm not you, and I don't live where you live.  I understand and accept that.


I'm just phenomenologically describing a class of behavior that is very misunderstood and has a lot of emotions, politics, social conventions, and history tied in to it.  If you *choose* to define "snitching" as something; that's fine.  You must however heed the etymology of the word and must pay respects to the fact that snitching, as most clearly defined, is one individual informing on another non-consensually, about anything.  One individual confessing to a crime doesn't meet that criteria and by definition isn't snitching.

If we have an agreement in writing for me to divulge what I know regarding you and that happens, it isn't snitching because it's consensual.



Snitching IMO might be wrong, but as a Voluntaryist I don't think it should be a crime.  Rather I think people would (as they do now and always have done) select against people who inform on others.

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    #14468062 - 05/17/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I like that alot. And Buddhism is awesome:awesomenod:


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    #14470898 - 05/17/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

so what if you sell someone a gun and that person goes out and kills a bunch of people?

are you responsible as a gun dealer?


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    #14470923 - 05/17/11 11:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Buddhism advises against engaging in the weapons trade for this very reason.

As a weapons merchant you do make possible to some extent the acquisition of weapons that facilitate innocent people dying.

In short, you aren't as responsible as the murderer but you do share a part of the responsibility.  Do I think you should be prosecuted against?  Absolutely not.  I believe all objects should be available for free consensual trade on an open marketplace.


Would I feel responsible as a gun dealer?  Absolutely; as such I don't sell guns.

Should you?  That's your business.  I tend to agree with the Buddhist viewpoint on the matter.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14470952 - 05/17/11 11:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If I see a rape or murder taking place someone is going to be in a lot of trouble, and immediately.

I'm not going to call the police so the assailant can escape and go hurt other people.

Most importantly the police get things wrong all the time.  What happens when you try to get a rapist locked up and the police go arrest some innocent guy who goes to jail and gets ass-pounded until he hangs himself?  What portion of the responsibility for his death will you assume captain Save-a-hoe?

The police aren't good guys.  They are violent and ignorant gang members and summoning them in order to demonstrate that "you care" is a fault of logic.

Take action yourself.  Resolve the situation yourself or with family and friends.




Also, pwnasaurus your material was IMO over the line of "flaming".  I've said nicer things to folks (Pris: "eat a dick" is an actual emoticon) and received "official warnings".


Truthfully I'm all for flaming, but I don't want either of us to get reprimanded or even worse, Coastered over it.

There should be an opt-in system for flaming and trolling like tagging oneself for PvP in MMORPG games.  I'd sever your head from your body with the blade of my tongue lad!




well of course you'd do something about a rape taking place...if I saw it I'd do something...then I would call the police so they can arrest him.
The only way he goes to jail is if the police get involved and if you're honestly trying to tell me that the cops are totally useless...then :facepalm:


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    #14471003 - 05/17/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think he was basically saying he'd take matters into his own hands or such.

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so what if you sell someone a gun and that person goes out and kills a bunch of people?

are you responsible as a gun dealer?




how about vehicular homicide?

that's a new paradigm

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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: 4runner]
    #14472248 - 05/18/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Crazy reading all the differences in this thread between city, suburb, country life etc...
I can see where you come from though. I have a feeling the cops in a big city are more apt to be corrupt or just don't give a fuck. Seeing it every day everywhere they look. In a smaller town I can guess there would be less apathy.





Being someone who's lived in both small and large cities, I'll tell you that cops in large cities have real work to do, so they hassle you a lot less, though they aren't as present either.  In little towns I've been hassled by cops tenfolds more.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14472398 - 05/18/11 10:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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tymoteusz3 said:
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learningtofly said:
your brother needs to stop being a hero and give the cops the guys name...




I know. Its totally different from snitching. The guy fucked him over.
That is unacceptable. Snitching on a dealer / cook / another drug user to get a reduced prison sentence is different. You knew the risk going in, you have to face the music.



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tymoteusz3 said:
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learningtofly said:
your brother needs to stop being a hero and give the cops the guys name...




I know. Its totally different from snitching. The guy fucked him over.
That is unacceptable. Snitching on a dealer / cook / another drug user to get a reduced prison sentence is different. You knew the risk going in, you have to face the music.




Seems your brother isn't the only fool.

Guess it runs in the family :thumbdown:


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