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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14451786 - 05/14/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Btw, wtf am I doing on some guy's farm all up in his barn and shit?  My guess is trespassing, especially if he's in the middle of cutting someone up.

Still, I'd do him.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14451787 - 05/14/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Not everyone always has a gun on them


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #14451825 - 05/14/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yea humility you seem to be confused as to what is snitching and what is not snitching.

If you aren't going to get busted, then you never snitch. If you have nothing to lose, and you didn't do anything...then you keep your mouth shut.
If someone fucks you over and you're facing penalties & possible jailtime, and you tell the cops, that's not snitching.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14452479 - 05/14/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I went down to visit him and tried to talk to him about saying who it was and he refused. Says he doesn't snitch, but what I tried to explain to him is this is totally different from snitching.





LOL


Speaking to the police is snitching.  Period.

If you have a problem, go handle it yourself.

If you go to the immoral, illogical, irrational men with guns to help you you're like to get hurt yourself.  If you don't, REST ASSURED they won't handle the situation better than a moderately intelligent person could have by themselves.



Calling the police to report a murder is snitching and if you lived anywhere near people that don't play in regards to snitching you'd understand that, perhaps not respect it but you'd certainly understand it.




Talking to the police

Is snitching.




How about these apples: I'm in my 20s and when I was being a teenage retard I *always* drove my OWN CAR, even when I was on shrooms (bad decision of course).

I've never in my entire life let someone else sit in the driver's seat of a vehicle that was registered to me or my parents.

Hopefully your brother learns from this mistake and doesn't allow himself to be placed in this situation again.  It is your brother's fault (indirectly) that this accident transpired.  He could have prevented this.

His mistake lead to negative consequences and apparently he is man enough to accept them without trying to remedy everything by cashing in someone else's ass.



Implicating someone else in a crime, any crime, is snitching.  Telling on yourself and not involving anyone else is NOT snitching for the same reason that doing meth or heroin isn't immoral.



What if i were to kill you and your family members, and your neighbor saw it was me. But we're cool. So he doesn't tell the cops it was me.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Anthony917]
    #14452568 - 05/14/11 05:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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yea humility you seem to be confused as to what is snitching and what is not snitching.

If you aren't going to get busted, then you never snitch. If you have nothing to lose, and you didn't do anything...then you keep your mouth shut.
If someone fucks you over and you're facing penalties & possible jailtime, and you tell the cops, that's not snitching.





I don't even know what to say to this.

Where are you from?  Where were you raised?  I was born and live in an area where if you're a snitch, you don't live here because thugs will murder you and kids will destroy your property (fuck up your car, bust your windows in etc.)

The first time I learned to not be a rat (worded exactly like that) was from my mother, and I couldn't have been older than 6 or 8.


Come around where I stay and start telling stories about what you saw and see what happens.  See what they term, how they define your behavior.  See if they call you a community supporter, a paragon of safety and security.  Or maybe they'll call you a snitch and murder you as you step outside your door on the way to your car.

Snitching is talking to the police, period.  Where you live, in daisy cookie-cutter land, it might be something different, but here; where the word originated and where the word is used daily, it means talking to the police, period about anything period.

Little kids don't even talk to the police.

Snitching falls under the hierarchy of "mind your own business" to some extent and "never speak with the police" to another.  If you fail to do that, you might catch a few while sitting at the red light.  Everyone will know who you are and what you did and no one will give a fuck when you're dead because they might have been the next one you went telling stories on trying to get locked up.




Lovecheese - My neighbor and I loan each other money all the time (more like me to him) and both of us are strapped.  He knows that if I see someone creeping around his property that I'm going to put the sights on them, command them to remain motionless and then notify him so he can handle the situation from there.


If you kill me, you better run fast because the police station is literally 20 seconds away on a vehicle.  In addition I live on a fairly busy thoroughfare.  Also, like I said, my neighbor is right next door and no one is a bitch about their shit.  If I hear gunshots in the middle of the night coming from closeby I'm going to grab my gun and check the situation out, whether or not the shots are coming from inside my house. 

I'd like to think he'd do the same, but who knows.  Either way, your chances of successful escape just went down when robbing/invading the home of a gun owner living directly next to another gun owner.

And then there's that whole "IF" thing.  Try not to get shot in the face making you way into my house (for the record I like to advocate attempts at less-than-lethal shooting if at all possible).  I usually don't go to bed until 5 or 6 in the morning anyway :-\.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility] * 2
    #14452587 - 05/14/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

lol you dont get it


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: lovecheese]
    #14452854 - 05/14/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, telling 'stories' to cover your own ass is one thing. Taking responsibility for your actions is another. His friend ran, to leave him to take the rap. If it went down like that, I'd say that isn't considered snitching. People get too hung up on this snitching shit anyway. His friend fucked him(maybe literally?) and the right thing to do is to fess up. He made a mistake, he should be held responsible. Your brother, too, is also responsible. He made the mistake of letting him drive. They could split the damages, and the penalties, IMO. :shrug:


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: AcidStrippedMind]
    #14452892 - 05/14/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Wish I had money..

Sucks for ur bro

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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14452907 - 05/14/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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you need to shit on your brother's head and tell him you're just being his friend




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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14466591 - 05/17/11 07:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Well last week my younger brother (hes like 18/19 now) was driving home in my dads pick up that my dad was letting him use and my brothers friend was driving.





Your brother's 'An' retard.  I guess you shouldn't let other people drive your Dad's truck?  He should probably just suck it up and take the blunt end of the lawrapestick.  Who gives their dad's truck's key's to someone else?

Smells like your brother's telling bullshit to the family.  He probably Was the one to wreck the vehicle... his running friend just probably had the drugs.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14466671 - 05/17/11 07:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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yea humility you seem to be confused as to what is snitching and what is not snitching.

If you aren't going to get busted, then you never snitch. If you have nothing to lose, and you didn't do anything...then you keep your mouth shut.
If someone fucks you over and you're facing penalties & possible jailtime, and you tell the cops, that's not snitching.





I don't even know what to say to this.

Where are you from?  Where were you raised?  I was born and live in an area where if you're a snitch, you don't live here because thugs will murder you and kids will destroy your property (fuck up your car, bust your windows in etc.)

The first time I learned to not be a rat (worded exactly like that) was from my mother, and I couldn't have been older than 6 or 8.


Come around where I stay and start telling stories about what you saw and see what happens.  See what they term, how they define your behavior.  See if they call you a community supporter, a paragon of safety and security.  Or maybe they'll call you a snitch and murder you as you step outside your door on the way to your car.

Snitching is talking to the police, period.  Where you live, in daisy cookie-cutter land, it might be something different, but here; where the word originated and where the word is used daily, it means talking to the police, period about anything period.

Little kids don't even talk to the police.

Snitching falls under the hierarchy of "mind your own business" to some extent and "never speak with the police" to another.  If you fail to do that, you might catch a few while sitting at the red light.  Everyone will know who you are and what you did and no one will give a fuck when you're dead because they might have been the next one you went telling stories on trying to get locked up.




Lovecheese - My neighbor and I loan each other money all the time (more like me to him) and both of us are strapped.  He knows that if I see someone creeping around his property that I'm going to put the sights on them, command them to remain motionless and then notify him so he can handle the situation from there.


If you kill me, you better run fast because the police station is literally 20 seconds away on a vehicle.  In addition I live on a fairly busy thoroughfare.  Also, like I said, my neighbor is right next door and no one is a bitch about their shit.  If I hear gunshots in the middle of the night coming from closeby I'm going to grab my gun and check the situation out, whether or not the shots are coming from inside my house. 

I'd like to think he'd do the same, but who knows.  Either way, your chances of successful escape just went down when robbing/invading the home of a gun owner living directly next to another gun owner.

And then there's that whole "IF" thing.  Try not to get shot in the face making you way into my house (for the record I like to advocate attempts at less-than-lethal shooting if at all possible).  I usually don't go to bed until 5 or 6 in the morning anyway :-\.






You need to move the fuck out of wherever you live.  Behavior like that is nothing to be proud of.  What do you think this is, Lord of the Flies?  Real community isn't based on a mutual fear of each other.

While I agree that cops are idiots and usually fuck up more than they get right, they're already talking to homeboy's fool brother because they think he wrecked his car.  It's not snitching for him to tell the truth, or to give the asshole the option of turning himself in before the truth is revealed.

I have a good friend who took the rap for a friend who borrowed his car and wrecked it drunk one night, then fled the scene.  He was young at the time, and didn't want to "snitch out" his friend.  After over 15 years since the incident, he recently lost an opportunity to retain a permanent position at the company he'd just landed a 50K/year job at, when they conducted a background check and decided that they didn't want someone with that on their record.

Fuck covering for assholes.  It is not the job of the righteous and upstanding to enable the morally corrupt.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: scienceguy] * 2
    #14466759 - 05/17/11 07:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If I were you OP, I would beat the shit out of your brother until he told you who did it. He needs to learn that you talk to the cops when someone is blatantly fucking you over. I wouldn't talk to the cops over drug shit because I know what I'm getting myself into in that situation, but shit like this I would call the cops and give as much information to them so they could catch him immediately.

I call the cops on kids throwing picnic tables into the pond down by the town park. That's not snitching, that's giving those little shits what they deserve. MY taxes pay for those picnic tables and they are just being assholes and destroying the park. I call the cops on drunks fighting in front of the bar by my house because shit escalates and I've seen someone get beat unconscious and still get kicked around. I've seen 10 girls beat the shit out of a pregnant woman over a parking space. I ran down there and stopped it, but I also was on the phone with the cops giving licence plate numbers out and descriptions. I call the cops when I see someone hit my neighbors car and drive off. FUCK THAT. They need to be in jail for being fucking assholes and breaking REAL laws that hurt other people. Cops are useful when REAL crimes against other people are happening. They have their purpose. I hate cops, but I will put them to work if the situation requires it.

My sister called the cops on this family that lived int he house behind hers. Their kid was hitting my niece with metal pipes and throwing rocks at her. The girls parents wouldn't do shit about it so my sister called the cops. The cops show up and 5 guys went running form the house with duffel bags obviously full of drugs. That wasn't anyones fault but those ghetto ass parents. If they wouldn't have allowed their daughter to harm other people and then laugh about it, then they wouldn't have had the cops called on them and had to GTFO of there like that. They haven't been back since. Not one person.

There are reasons to call the cops and I will do it EVERY time if someone is being victimized. That isn't snitching, that's stopping someone from hurting other people or their property and the people deserve what they get coming to them.

OP needs to sit his brother down and beat his brother up for being a idiot. His parents need to threaten him with military school or something huge for this. He thinks he is being a good friend and all he is doing is stopping a real criminal from being caught.

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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Kada]
    #14466814 - 05/17/11 08:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I come from where kids place "Snitchin'" signs below stop signs on major thoroughfares for fun.


80%+ of the people in this thread come from the land of "If you see something, say something".



Desert peoples trying to tell an Eskimo about snow.  Ya'll just don't know.

Keep your stories in the burbs; I'll take my ghettos any and every day.  Crackheads, skeevs, jackboys, dope boys, fine women walking around half naked, boys in blue coming through starting shit.

All the while you folks peek out your windows pointing fingers at each other lol.  Do what you will but keep that shit over there.

Authentic.

Scienceguy - I'm infinitely more safe and comfortable where I am than I would be in most anywhere else.  I can do whatever I want where I live and (most) people know and respect me and my property.  When I walk by people on the street I speak to everyone and 80% of people speak back, including the dope boys and the jack boys.

I can sit on the front steps of my house and smoke a blunt and 50 people will walk by and no one will do anything except maybe ask to hit that bitch.

I'm free homie.  What are you?


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14466842 - 05/17/11 08:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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lol you dont get it






What don't I get?  You're juxtaposing that if something bad happens to me suddenly I'd change my opinions and convictions about life?


Not likely.  If someone murdered me inside of my home I'd want a funeral ceremony (preferably a natural one and not a "Traditional" christian ceremony) and for my relatives to hunt that individual down and prevent them from harming others.

I wouldn't want the police to be called under any circumstances.

I've never dialed "911" in my life, ever, not once.

And I never will.

YOU don't get it homie.  It's easy to miss though, growing up where and how you do.  You're experiencing cultural relativism and as such are having a very difficult time understanding where I'm coming from.

I understand where you're coming from, I just see numerous holes in your logic (lol the police will protect you) and I vehemently disagree with you.




Here's the most clear I can make it to you:  To you, the police are a NEUTRAL entity that YOU feel YOU can call upon.  You feel like you have the ability to SUMMON them.

I see the police as a gang, and a very powerful one, like the Mexican Mafia.  I would never call on the Mexican Mafia for help.  I don't support the way they operate and wouldn't want to involve myself in any way with them.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14466855 - 05/17/11 08:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

lol I wouldn't live in a place like that if you paid me to. I live in a small town in Indiana and our neighbors have each others backs by following the laws that are here to protect us. My neighbors are cops and firemen. I live a block from the police station, the firehouse, 6 bars and 4 churches. It's calm around here. You could walk down the middle of the street at night waving 100000 bucks around and no one would even think about robbing you. My wife could go running at midnight through the park naked and she would be fine. That would be stupid anywhere, but generally she wouldn't have to worry. We call the cops if we see crime here. Shit, old people call the cops if they see someone throwing grass in a trash can. Those assholes get stares from everyone tho. The cops stop coming when they call.

You live in a whole different world than I do I'll give you that.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14466872 - 05/17/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Keep your stories in the burbs; I'll take my ghettos any and every day.  Crackheads, skeevs, jackboys, dope boys, fine women walking around half naked, boys in blue coming through starting shit.

All the while you folks peek out your windows pointing fingers at each other lol.  Do what you will but keep that shit over there.






Mmm, them ghetto whores, that's some fine booty



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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Kada]
    #14466874 - 05/17/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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lol I wouldn't live in a place like that if you paid me to. I live in a small town in Indiana and our neighbors have each others backs by following the laws that are here to protect us. My neighbors are cops and firemen. I live a block from the police station, the firehouse, 6 bars and 4 churches. It's calm around here. You could walk down the middle of the street at night waving 100000 bucks around and no one would even think about robbing you. My wife could go running at midnight through the park naked and she would be fine. That would be stupid anywhere, but generally she wouldn't have to worry. We call the cops if we see crime here. Shit, old people call the cops if they see someone throwing grass in a trash can. Those assholes get stares from everyone tho. The cops stop coming when they call.

You live in a whole different world than I do I'll give you that.





I could literally *never* live in a place like that.

I'd be terrified, and rightfully so.



Around here, as long as you don't in fact go running around naked in the streets or waving around 100k (LOL you'd catch'em so fast...) you'd be perfectly fine, and that goes for whatever color your skin.


I have the feeling that where you live (especially Indiana) people say the word "nigger" a lot and I'd probably receive death threats just by moving in.  I'd also probably get hassled by the police (and even the firemen LOL) all the time.




The ghetto is much kinder to outsiders than suburbia is.  In different ways, but IMO kinder.  It helps if you don't act like a retard (forgetting that you're around a bunch of poor and desirous motherfuckers)


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14466877 - 05/17/11 08:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah at 5 dollars a sucky sucky I'd say it's much more kind.  Usually you gotta fork out real money for that.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14466878 - 05/17/11 08:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Maverick - You're confused homie.  That's a pic of one of your burbs women that come bring money to individuals in the neighborhood.

She's also got a lot of you in her.  She'll tell stories quick to get off charges of sucking cocks or holding rocks or whatever it was she was doing wrong.

That's how ya'll taught her though.  What can ya do.  The shit keeps rolling.


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Re: My brother is an fool [Re: Humility]
    #14466881 - 05/17/11 08:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nah, I'm pretty sure that bitch is walking through your hood right now, trying to score some crack.


Our women are addicted to coke, not crack.  I'm also pretty sure it's You who's inside her too :wink:


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