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Obama fiddled as America burned
    #14444233 - 05/13/11 08:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

so FEMA under the Obama administration refuses to aid Texas in some of the
worst wildfires the state has ever seen yet is more than willing to help
foreign nations that have seen far less destruction that refuse to try and stop their gang violence from spilling over our borders

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/politics/Perry-White-House-Denies-Disaster-Status-for-Wildfires-121226234.html?dr


http://www.ktsm.com/news/us-agrees-to-help-fight-mexico-wildfires


let's see obama's mexican birth certificate, obviously he's not an american
or he'd be helping americans before helping mexico, isn't this one of the
reason we pay taxes?


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14444261 - 05/13/11 08:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I thought it was for tazers and swat teams. :shrug:

Why are we just handing over money that we need? It's insane and insulting.


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14444263 - 05/13/11 08:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

is there a politics forum we can have an admin switch this over to? :wink:


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14444277 - 05/13/11 08:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've been pissed off at the last 2 presidents and the last 2 governors of Texas for their continued stupidity over the Mexico issue. Maybe now that we dumped bin Laden's corpse in the ocean, they'll finally send some aid where it's needed: to protect our borders from narco-terrorists that can simply walk across.

We need to get military aid into Mexico and FAST. This can go two ways, we can not do shit, see the collapse of Mexico and drug-fueled rise of a cartel-controlled Mexican government (we're almost there), or we can go down there, start shooting narco-terrorists and turn Mexico into a valuable ally to the south.

If we need to be sending aid to any foreign country (and some of you are gonna HATE me for saying this) it's Mexico, and for mostly security reasons. Coyotes don't just move immigrants, I'm sure plenty of sleeper cells have gotten in through our wide-open back door.


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: imagine]
    #14444278 - 05/13/11 08:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:lolsy::lolsy::lolsy:


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14444281 - 05/13/11 08:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You have 420 posts. Nice.  :potleaf:


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: Kada]
    #14444286 - 05/13/11 08:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Awwwww, I just lost it before I saw your post. At least someone noticed.


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14444288 - 05/13/11 08:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Didn't I.C.E. leave the border states twisting in the wind too?


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: Kada]
    #14444308 - 05/13/11 08:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

its prolly cheaper to burn it then to bulldozer it, maybe we'll see some fancy solar panels rolling out there soon


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: Newlord]
    #14444311 - 05/13/11 08:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

We shouldn't be giving foreign aid to ANY country.  Most especially Israel.


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14444314 - 05/13/11 08:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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We need to get military aid into Mexico and FAST.





we send them billion in funds every year

unless you see the military aid for mexico the same way I do

send in troops, take over the country


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: Newlord]
    #14444317 - 05/13/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Didn't I.C.E. leave the border states twisting in the wind too?





yup, while janet napolitano went to pakistan to show them how to secure their border


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: amilibertine]
    #14444319 - 05/13/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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We shouldn't be giving foreign aid to ANY country.  Most especially Israel.




Why not?


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14444349 - 05/13/11 08:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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We need to get military aid into Mexico and FAST.





we send them billion in funds every year

unless you see the military aid for mexico the same way I do

send in troops, take over the country




Pretty much what we're doing in the Middle East, so yeah. It's the same sort of war, but you've got a radically different ideology, one that can actually be fought. It's hard for cartel guys to get men on their side outside of paying them money. Eliminate profits (by carrying out military strikes on known narco-terrorism grow ops, paramilitary compounds, and helping the Mexican government police their streets since they can't do it) then secure the border, and sign an agreement with the newly "liberated" Mexico that they'll help guard the border. Threaten to cut off monetary aid if they shut it down, that was actually Kinky Friedman's plan.

I moved out of that state when it became obvious that the churches and private sector were in control of most of the decisions in the state, by proxy. Rick Perry and George W. raped the public school system (and then George went on the rape the national school system) and Rick Perry continues to run the fucking state into the ground with stupid right-wing ideals and his stubbornness in holding them.

He once said at a press conference "If we have to, we'll secede from the US." I told my dad if that happens, we're going to be hiding on rooftops in Austin with hunting rifles until one of us gets a clear shot. They guy isn't fit to lead a fucking parade, let alone a state, and he's been in office about 12 years too long now.


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14444388 - 05/13/11 09:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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amilibertine said:
We shouldn't be giving foreign aid to ANY country.  Most especially Israel.




Why not?





Because America is being bankrupted and we have a massive amount of things here at home that money should be used for.  Homeless people, infrastructure, education, and on and on and on.

We shouldn't give anyone anything for free, until we are in a position of surplus.


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: amilibertine]
    #14444393 - 05/13/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Mad_Larkin said:
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amilibertine said:
We shouldn't be giving foreign aid to ANY country.  Most especially Israel.




Why not?





Because America is being bankrupted and we have a massive amount of things here at home that money should be used for.  Homeless people, infrastructure, education, and on and on and on.

We shouldn't give anyone anything for free, until we are in a position of surplus.





We shouldn't be giving anybody anything, ever. Free money only gives someone incentive to not improve, because they get money for nothing. This concept can be found in both people and nations.


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: amilibertine]
    #14444399 - 05/13/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i think he got that part, i think he meant why isrealights specifically?


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #14444411 - 05/13/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i think he got that part, i think he meant why isrealights specifically?





Because they control foreign policy?  :alientransform:


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #14444417 - 05/13/11 09:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I live in Texas, and we are fine.


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #14444419 - 05/13/11 09:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think it's not a good idea to give away money. I think it's a good idea if we see a return on our money. Once our economy is in better shape, it would benefit us to help Mexico by helping them become producers of something other than drugs and violence, with financial aid and help with better government planning. Not only would this benefit us from a military standpoint (we would have a loyal neighbor to the south, most likely), but eventually, when Mexico's economy gets out of the shitter and they start producing goods, services, and technological advancements, we'll benefit economically and socially.

I really don't see a downside to doing to Mexico what we did to Iraq/Afghanistan, besides the military action itself, which can't be avoided. Sooner or later, we're going to need to send troops down south, it's just that if we do it sooner, we might end up better off than we were before.


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #14444428 - 05/13/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i think he got that part, i think he meant why isrealights specifically?




Israel specifically because they receive an enormous amount of military and financial aid each year.


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Re: Obama fiddled as America burned [Re: amilibertine]
    #14444509 - 05/13/11 09:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

and because they have all the jew gold


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