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Offlinerustycobwebs
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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: Geoffrey]
    #14437736 - 05/11/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

get the mid grade vermiculite. I use Hoffman's but the fuckers put fine grade verm in the bag last time i gotta go bitch at the garden center while they stand around and wonder why I'm so particular about my soil additives.


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: rustycobwebs]
    #14437780 - 05/11/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, Lowes told me over the phone they had vermiculite, so I went there. They couldnt find it, so they decided to try to sell me a bag of dirt with verm in it... I declined, by the time I left that place they had no doubt I was up to something shady...

The guys at the garden center were burn outs, I could care less what they think I've got going on...but yeah I asked about medium grade verm and they looked at me like "dude, does it really freakin matter? I thought you were getting this for your wifes violets or something?"
They told me they could order it, but id have to buy a huge sack, i told them id take one if they could get the medium stuff and they said theyd call....still waiting...


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: Geoffrey]
    #14437841 - 05/11/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've used the coarse grade.
It will break up pretty easy for the substrate.
Then I used run some through a blender for the dry layer.

Also I do cocaine.


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: Geoffrey]
    #14437883 - 05/11/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Geoffrey said:


I think I got these made up quite a bit better than the last ones, these arent all water logged.

On the pasturizing thing, so Could I do like 20 gallons of pasturized poo then pour that on top of the rest of it and spawn into it?  I mean eventually would the damn things ever just grow there wild?




Next time use fine vermiculite for PF tek


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: fbi365]
    #14438198 - 05/12/11 12:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

you can crunch it up yourself.

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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: k00laid]
    #14438339 - 05/12/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ok the tips I have for you are that you said you were going to make your syringe and noc your jars all at one time... I believe that you need to wait a little bit for the spores to soak up some water I like to make my syringes at least a day ahead of time... and definately use fine verm... go to lowes and just look in the garden center for a rack with smaller bags of dirt and shit and it says vermiculite on it made by Sta-Green... works like a charm...

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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: TrowaBarton]
    #14438447 - 05/12/11 02:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Can I ask what you are using for sterilization times and are you making sure you are not getting any more water in the jars while you are sterilizing them? Cause it looks to me that you over cooked them and possibly got to much water...


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: thor_ak]
    #14438462 - 05/12/11 02:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Those little jars, depending on the PC cooker you are using, if you are using one, probably only need 30 min PC time (thats from boiling).. Also make sure you have tin foil over the tops of the lids and that you dont put to much water in there. When I mix my jars, I measure out the verm, then I wet it down to where when its all mixed, and I tip the bowl Im mixing it in there is just a small puddle of water. Then I mix in my BRF evenly, stirring as I add more. I fill my 1/2 pints to the top very loosely, then I do the tap down tek, and that leaves me with about 5/8s of an inch for my verm barrier.


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: thor_ak]
    #14439255 - 05/12/11 09:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If you have course verm, just run it through a coffe grinder first.

Like DrRockso said, "verm is too coarse", it won't filter contaminates if it's too big.


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: Chez man]
    #14439332 - 05/12/11 09:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm using a 16qt pc to sterilize.  I've been running it 45min @ 15psi.

So I just got done messing around out beside the barn. My horse poo pile, just where we throw all the shit, it's not there for shrooms, is fully colonized with myc. This is just plain Jane regular outdoor cube myc.   

Should I try to cultivate the natural cubes? Maybe water them and such?


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: Geoffrey]
    #14439357 - 05/12/11 09:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

it might be cubes.

get proper ID before eating anything you find in the wild.

as far as cultivating them goes.

of course@!#$!@$!@


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: k00laid]
    #14441054 - 05/12/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



That's a myc covered poo nugget I dug up a minute ago, that myc is all over under there... WELL colonized... I cant wait for the next rain, should be this evening.  Sometimes the pins in the patch will be the size of a hotdog weener.

Ohh it's cubes alright!  I shovel all the poo over there, I do it every  couple days, its back in the corner where the fences meet, theres two big huge oak trees that shade it really nice... The fence corner shades from the north and east and the barn from the west...just a hair of direct sunlight can get in mid day for about 30 minutes if that.... The area we are talking about is about 12x16 feet...

I came up with the idea of putting Peanut's(the horse) poo back there for this reason.

Anything I should be doing to help them along?


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: Geoffrey]
    #14441707 - 05/12/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Geoffrey said:
Ohh it's cubes alright!




just be careful yo.

mycelium doesnt tell very much about the fruitbodies it produces.


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: k00laid]
    #14441757 - 05/12/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Is this the Tater Tot Tek?


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: Steelcutoats]
    #14441935 - 05/12/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Seems to fit... lol

Nahh, thats just a fluffy butt nugget...


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: Geoffrey]
    #14442078 - 05/12/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I would try to snag some of that Myc, and make a LC Syringe from it, if possible.. Its worth a shot!


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: Geoffrey]
    #14442545 - 05/12/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Im not sure its possible


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: Geoffrey]
    #14442868 - 05/12/11 11:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

best to wait for fruits and take a sample from the inside of a fruit. put on agar and cultivate.

also get some spores on agar.

but straight dung mycelium to agar wouldnt be the easiest way


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: k00laid]
    #14443577 - 05/13/11 02:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If the poo pile fruits couldn't you just bruise a fruit and see if it turns blue or are there poisonous mush that also stain blue?


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Re: First Grow...Ever.. [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14443961 - 05/13/11 06:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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3n1gm4 said:
If the poo pile fruits couldn't you just bruise a fruit and see if it turns blue or are there poisonous mush that also stain blue?




blue is one of the identifying factors.

but not the main one. or the only one.


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