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lovecheese said: plants don't have a consciousness? how could you possible know if they do or don't?
all we do know is that their cellular mechanics are very different from ours. almost divine in design.
because they dont have a brain.
you lose your consciousness when your brain is injured to the point that it stops functioning temporarily, or when it stops working permanently and you die.
consciousness is entirely due to your brain.
plants do not have brains.
i win.
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lovecheese said: first few days of meat withdrawal are the worst
more like the entire duration of it. nothing ive eaten is filling. i have a healthy body i need to support and every core of my being is telling me that i havent received enough nutrition to sustain it.
it's quite possible that the diet your being exposed to is lacking in nutrition. many vegans aren't healthy, their diets are more of a variant of anorexia. they do it wrong.
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But meat is murder!
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lovecheese said: plants don't have a consciousness? how could you possible know if they do or don't?
all we do know is that their cellular mechanics are very different from ours. almost divine in design.
Wow, kill yourself. Are you being serious? That's the most retarded fucking thing I've read or heard all day. And I hear a lot of dumb shit all day. I guess this is what I get for reading posts in the pub.
Wow, kill yourself. Are you being serious? That's the most retarded fucking thing I've read or heard all day. And I hear a lot of dumb shit all day. I guess this is what I get for reading posts in the pub.
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Delicious Apes said: Admit you don't give a fuck, but just like eating it because it's handed to you and it's easy.
Where I'm from, being a vegan is actually a luxury. Well if you want to have a complete and balanced diet of course, eating more than supermarket, styrofoam and cellophane vegetables. If you want good products for that you need to have a good wallet for supporting them.
I was vegetarian a few years ago, for my personal choice because I know I wouldn't be able to kill an animal if I had to, so it doesn't make much sense eating meat, I also always try eating the minimum I can, I quit being because my diet was a mess and I'm prone to anemia. Vegan and biological products are way to expensive when you have minimum wage of 2,50€/hour, which was what I got at my previous job.
I have a university in front of my place and I dine there, I pay 2€ for a dinner, and it's a complete meal, soup, main plate and desert. But you never have vegetarian food available, in my previous university they always had macrobiotic food
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Your talking to some who ignored me cause I thought caring for and restoring the environment holds more importance then the continuation of humanities fetish for technology 
The comment wasnt even directed at him either
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Ignored you??? The nerve He could be one of those dudes trying to accumulate ignored users.
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Re: Vegans [Re: pouihi]
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vegetarian diet gets you high as fuck, give it a try
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Re: Vegans [Re: g00ru]
#14442012 - 05/12/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I heard it also makes your penis bigger
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if your goal is to make ur dick stronger, being a vegetarian will help that happen quicker...makes the body more malleable to conscious evolution
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Re: Vegans [Re: g00ru]
#14442076 - 05/12/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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guruu said: vegetarian diet gets you high as fuck, give it a try
Aldous Huxley also considered fasting as a means to get high
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Hunting ftw I have no qualms with vegans. Eat what you want. I have a question for the vegans out there. Do vegans give head? Do they swallow? I'm just curious.
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lovecheese said: plants don't have a consciousness? how could you possible know if they do or don't?
all we do know is that their cellular mechanics are very different from ours. almost divine in design.
because they dont have a brain.
you lose your consciousness when your brain is injured to the point that it stops functioning temporarily, or when it stops working permanently and you die.
consciousness is entirely due to your brain.
plants do not have brains.
i win.
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lovecheese said: first few days of meat withdrawal are the worst
more like the entire duration of it. nothing ive eaten is filling. i have a healthy body i need to support and every core of my being is telling me that i havent received enough nutrition to sustain it.
Interestingly enough, they many do have neurochemicals. For instance, Pine trees have testosterone. Also, DMT is certainly neuro-active, and it is found in many, many plants. They may have some sort of consciousness Afterall, our brains are a collection of chemical reactions.
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Re: Vegans [Re: pouihi]
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oh yeah, consider that one personally confirmed. i've only ever fasted for like 25 hours, but you get so spaced out, and then when you finally do eat you get bombed with so much energy all at once, and then there's an energetic afterglow for the next few days. altogether awesome!
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Re: Vegans [Re: g00ru]
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fasting isn't for me, I get awfully cranky when I start feeling starved. I prefer other means of getting high
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Re: Vegans [Re: g00ru]
#14442206 - 05/12/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Haha, I gave up and went away cause this had made if off the front page, now I come back and it's full of life,
The original post, was intended to piss people off so they'd attack a little, as you may have figured.
But I have a problem with "it's your own choice" vegans. I love you all, cause you're not killing fucking animals cause you're more concerned about your taste buds. But if you accept that its a moral issue, it's the only one we seem to think should be our own choice.
Anti-abortionists, nasty creatures that they are, are never happy to say, I think it's wrong so I won't do it, and most people respect their right to campaign for the issue they believe in. Anti-drug people also want to enforce their views on us, and though we think they are wrong, telling someone that they shouldn't be *allowed* to do something to their own body doesn't stir up the same vitriol I get when I tell someone I think its wrong to eat or exploit animals, even though I'm not trying to pass laws forbidding it, just expressing my moral stand.
My moral standpoint is that there is nothing inherently more valuable about a human than another animal. Therefore, I think that killing an animal is on par with murder. Would you like me to tell a fucking serial killer that we all have to make our own choices? Disagree with my morality all you like, but I have the right to judge people on my moral grounds just as much as you do to judge by your standards.
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Performance said: I eat a strict vegetarian diet. No dairy,eggs,honey etc. However I am not vegan. I wear leather clothing. As I ride a motorcycle on a very regular basis I am not willing to give up the protection that leather provides in case of an accident.
I'm also a rider, and I have leathers from before I went vegan. Not sure if I'm going to keep wearing them, its seems morally neutral since I already have them. If I buy new stuff, its easy to get high-performance synthetics.
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physicist said: Hunting ftw I have no qualms with vegans. Eat what you want. I have a question for the vegans out there. Do vegans give head? Do they swallow? I'm just curious.
Absolutely. Well, I'm a straight male so I personally don't, but you know what I mean. Its voluntarily given - to say the least - humans are unique in that they can clearly consent.
Also -- just want to make it clear -- please don't judge vegans by me. I'm a confrontation asshole who likes to say shit, and I'm doing this for fun, not to convert people.
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Re: Vegans [Re: millar]
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It's not a moral issue for me. I'll kill and eat the fuck out of that animal. If some serial killer gets me and eats me, such is the cycle of life. In the words of Reverend Maynard, "Life feeds on life feeds on life..."
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Re: Vegans [Re: millar]
#14442291 - 05/12/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dont know about equating meat with crime or vegans with silliness, but Ive noticed a difference in the flavor and its not good. Cost is out of this world, 15 dollars for a small T bone, who can afford that? The better steaks are even more.
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Re: Vegans [Re: iam23]
#14442297 - 05/12/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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iam23 said: I dont know about equating meat with crime or vegans with silliness, but Ive noticed a difference in the flavor and its not good. Cost is out of this world, 15 dollars for a small T bone, who can afford that? The better steaks are even more.
I'm tellin' ya, hunting ftw!
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So how many vegans need to take vitamins or protein pills in order to meet their dietary needs? How natural is taking a pill compared to eating a naturally occurring food from nature such as fish, beef, chicken, eggs, etc?
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I take a multivitamin in the morning and a calcium tablet at night. It's not that big a deal. And being vegan doesn't really have anything to do with protien deficencies. There are plenty of protien sources besides animals.
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