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nausea while meditating
    #14442153 - 05/12/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

When ever I try meditation or astral projection I get real strong body vibrations then get nauseous. is this common?


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: IamMatt]
    #14442592 - 05/12/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The vibrations are common, but I haven't heard of nausea. What methods are you using?


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14442983 - 05/12/11 11:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well for astral projection i'll lay flat on my back and just relax my body and take deep breaths to slow down my heartbeat and attempt to empty my mind. once i get the vibrations i try to move them around my body. With that i haven't had success but have gotten close. to the OBE that is.


with meditation. Can't remember the name of the method. but you lay down start breathing and relaxing and then focus on your toes. like breath in and down to your toes for a bit and then move to the soles of your feet then your ankles then your calves. I've only done it once but last night i felt the vibrations moving up as i focused higher and higher on my body but when i got to my stomach i got nauseas.

I read somewhere that it could be hyper ventilating because i lose track of my breathing but i don't think i am doing that.
Also that i could be crossing my eyes even though they are closed. I don't think i do that, my eyes kinda roll up once i get really relaxed but i'll try to stop that and see if that works.


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: IamMatt]
    #14443024 - 05/12/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'd say try sitting in a chair when practicing and see if that helps.


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14443038 - 05/12/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I get it all the time...it can occur in some individuals when you start to really delve into the meditation, it can be overwhelming at times. Especially with sounds to aid your journey.


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: tyler_0_durden]
    #14443122 - 05/12/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hmm... this is interesting. I've had nausea a couple of times, both due to having eaten recently or a big meal within 3-4 hours of meditating. I have had some intense nausea under medicines that are known to cause it but whenever it was at the stomach region, something was off energetically.

A question for you, why are you trying to move the vibrations around your body? Techniques are nice but do what works for you. Don't "move the vibrations" or energies around your being, simply pull energy down from source/above and up from Earth and allow them to flow naturally. Don't force or push, it just flows. Simply remove blockages.

As for the nausea, try not eating anything in the 4 hours leading up to it. It may help.

ALSO, for OBE, it's not just about relaxing and clearing thoughts, it's moving the state of awareness into a higher state of being. In such a state, the resonance leads automatically to a choice of moving out of the body. And remember, it takes much, much practice to consciously maneuver these OBE/"Astral Projection". Well worth it, I must say. These are all in my opinion/perspective so whatever works, go for it.


Good luck and blessings to you.


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: OneU]
    #14443137 - 05/12/11 11:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well with the moving the vibrations. I short guide i rid said once you get the the relaxed point/lowered brain wavelengths part and feel the vibrations to move them around to get a handle on them and then to get to the projection part to sort of roll the vibrations out of your body.

That could be the wrong method. I just got Astral Dynamics though and am going to give it a try.

Thank you for answering guys (or girls).


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: IamMatt]
    #14443420 - 05/13/11 01:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I sometimes direct positive vibrations towards others when I want to wish them well, and this will obviously come at the expense of my well-being, so I find it normal to experience nausea when I divert energy. I consider it taking some energy from me and donating it to another person.


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: IamMatt]
    #14444951 - 05/13/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Well with the moving the vibrations. I short guide i rid said once you get the the relaxed point/lowered brain wavelengths part and feel the vibrations to move them around to get a handle on them and then to get to the projection part to sort of roll the vibrations out of your body.

That could be the wrong method. I just got Astral Dynamics though and am going to give it a try.

Thank you for answering guys (or girls).



So the brain wavelengths to my understanding  come in 4 current categorizations. Alpha, Beta, Theta and Delta. When you "relax" you are in the Beta brain waves. To get into Theta and Delta, you start to shift awareness from the physical body to the energy body. Delta is when you are no longer dreaming (or can comprehend the level of vision). It is deep, deep, deep consciousness in accords to the brain waves.

What I meant by the vibrational movement wasn't to discount yours, I myself sometimes move vibrations around me but to maneuver something you must first get a general feel for it. You have to be familiar with the movement of it. This is done, for me, by observing the energy flow without blockage. Allowing it to flow harmoniously to it's desired/needed potential. Then, when I have gotten a feel for it, I will expand it, move it and other things but this is not always necessary for an OBE. If you are focusing on your body and energy body communication, you are stepping away from an OBE because you have much awareness within the body. An OBE happens naturally. It just requires a deep awareness state of being.

It's like, trying to breathe and swallow at the same time. It can't happen because you are giving your body a lot of your attention (and an Out of Body Experience requires you to let the body go).

I hope this helped. Blessings on your success.


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: OneU]
    #14445507 - 05/13/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



Sweet sig! :smile:


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: teknix]
    #14445541 - 05/13/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What are you eating?


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: auxiliary]
    #14445783 - 05/13/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ahh okay thanks guys.

I've been eating unhealthy lately so that could be it. I did the meditation thing last night without any negative results.


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: IamMatt]
    #14446313 - 05/13/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:thumbup:

thanks teknix. trying to put the image out there :bliss:


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Re: nausea while meditating [Re: IamMatt]
    #14449156 - 05/14/11 01:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

if you drink even fairly frequently that could contribute to lingering nausea


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