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OfflineCanadian Bud
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Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid?
    #14441725 - 05/12/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I find when people hear about acid, they seem to think it's a hard drug but when shrooms come up people generally don't mind. What's up with this perception?


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: Canadian Bud]
    #14441740 - 05/12/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

IMO it has something to do with the "if it's natural it's safe" mentality that some cannabis users have. They don't seem to think that a synthetic could ever be safe, and think there are too many variables when producing it that could make it "unsafe".


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: Canadian Bud]
    #14441745 - 05/12/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Probably has something to do with all of the LSD propaganda in the 60s, 70s, up until now. You don't hear much about mushrooms but you hear all kinds of horror stories about LSD.

I don't know I mean maybe LSD's reputation is at least somewhat rightfully earned. Maybe not.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: Canadian Bud]
    #14441747 - 05/12/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Misinformation. I had a conversation with a girl (at one point I said "have you ever done LSD" and she was like "no, and I'm never doing acid either!" :laugh2:) and she told me she wouldn't ever do acid. But she was down for eating about 10 mgs of benzos and taking shots during the 2-3 hours we hung out.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: DesignatedTripper]
    #14441749 - 05/12/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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IMO it has something to do with the "if it's natural it's safe" mentality that some cannabis users have. They don't seem to think that a synthetic could ever be safe, and think there are too many variables when producing it that could make it "unsafe".



I would agree, except that a lot of those same kids probably eat pressed ecstasy pills...I seen em, they don't make any sense at all.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: Canadian Bud]
    #14441751 - 05/12/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think the biggest part is just the name. Acid. Dosen't sound like something you should eat does it?
I think another pretty big factor is the fact that mushrooms are organic and lsd is created in a lab.

None of those things phase me at all though. lsd is my favorite drug!


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: Joolz]
    #14441755 - 05/12/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i've never met anyone who was pro-shrooms and anti-acid.

why is alcohol more socially acceptable then pot?


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: LSDylan]
    #14441776 - 05/12/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My friends are scared of it because it's not natural. They don't understand that synthetic drugs aren't always dangerous. If a scientist were to synthesize some pure psilocin, my friends wouldn't touch it, but they'd still eat shrooms all day long.

I hate to sound cocky, but I'm just more intelligent that all of my friends when it comes to drugs (and most things for that matter). I always do my research before trying anything, but they judge me anyways for trying "harder drugs" than them.

It's scary to them because they just don't understand it.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: bholzer]
    #14441801 - 05/12/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Synthetic vs natural


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: bholzer]
    #14441802 - 05/12/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

who says you understand it?

psilocybin is not a drug. it is a psycho-active chemical made by some mushrooms. you can use it as a "drug" to get fucked up. or you can use it for it's spiritual properties.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: bholzer]
    #14441821 - 05/12/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I overheard a conversation recently. It went like this:

"Hey, did you know if you get a bunch of morning glory seeds you can easily make LSD?"
"I'd never do that, it can get stuck in your brain and you trip forever."
"Yeah, I know. It can get stuck in your spine too."

I was considering educating them but some people in the area that I live in already look down upon me and my few psychedelic using friends because of the societal stigma so closely associated with psychedelics. The misinformation and blatant ignorance is ridiculous.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: broken]
    #14441849 - 05/12/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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who says you understand it?

psilocybin is not a drug. it is a psycho-active chemical made by some mushrooms. you can use it as a "drug" to get fucked up. or you can use it for it's spiritual properties.




Was this directed at me? If so, I mean to say I understand it more than my friends.

A drug is a substance that alters normal bodily functions. So yes, it is a drug.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: bholzer]
    #14441863 - 05/12/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

aspirin is a drug. a mushrooms is the fruit body of mycelium, not a drug.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: broken]
    #14441878 - 05/12/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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aspirin is a drug. a mushrooms is the fruit body of mycelium, not a drug.




You said psilocybin is not a drug. It is. Mushrooms aren't drugs, but they contain them. However, that isn't the point of this thread. For all intensive purposes, the world sees mushrooms as a drug, and that's what this thread is about.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: broken]
    #14441886 - 05/12/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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aspirin is a drug. a mushrooms is the fruit body of mycelium, not a drug.



Psilocybin creates physiological reactions, altering the normal function of the brain. So it is a drug. Who says drugs cannot be of spiritual value to people? Just because it is your sacrament doesn't mean that it transcends the definition and science of "drugs."  :twocents:


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: drr]
    #14441887 - 05/12/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Probably has something to do with all of the LSD propaganda in the 60s, 70s, up until now. You don't hear much about mushrooms but you hear all kinds of horror stories about LSD.






I think it's this exactly. When psychedelics first hit mainstream american culture it was like "WOAH, look at this totally NEW and SCARY drug called ACID !!!!" People are always afraid of what they don't understand and this reaction has been lingering for half a century.

Plus mushrooms already have their own danger-myth, but it's just that they might kill you if you eat the wrong one (which is actually legit). Either way, our culture has a place into which mushrooms fit and they are slightly less mysterious than LSD. Our culture had NOTHING previous to LSD that it could be compared to and so it remains in this sort of misunderstood category.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: bholzer]
    #14441890 - 05/12/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"be the change you want to see in the world"-gandhi

if you don't want others to view it as a drug, don't call it a drug yourself.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: The_Aviator]
    #14441894 - 05/12/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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aspirin is a drug. a mushrooms is the fruit body of mycelium, not a drug.



Psilocybin creates physiological reactions, altering the normal function of the brain. So it is a drug. Who says drugs cannot be of spiritual value to people? Just because it is your sacrament doesn't mean that it transcends the definition and science of "drugs."  :twocents:



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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: broken]
    #14441901 - 05/12/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ya, it was said by wise hippies, long ago, that you couldnt "bum out" on shrooms cause it was natural and similar to a chemical that was already a part of your brain (DMT)


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: iam23]
    #14441938 - 05/12/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've noticed this too... I don't really care to correct people anymore...

As has been said... the 70's propaganda along with the "synthetic" label along with the slang name "acid" generally just gives people a bad perception of the drug, even if they know absolutly nothing about it.

More for me.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: iam23]
    #14441952 - 05/12/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Ya, it was said by wise hippies, long ago, that you couldnt "bum out" on shrooms cause it was natural and similar to a chemical that was already a part of your brain (DMT)




I wish this were true man, some people can "bum out" on mushrooms and DMT.

I personally think that synthetic or natural doesn't matter. Some natural compounds can be more dangerous than synthetics, and vice versa. It's all about choosing carefully and responsibly!


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: bholzer]
    #14442298 - 05/12/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Just wait a couple years... Very few of my friends like to take mushrooms any more. Acid is much easier to be more sociable while your on it as opposed to mushrooms.

Have you ever tried to talk to someone on mushrooms when you're not on mushrooms? Pretty strange. On the other hand.. Acid people seem to be pretty talkative but they seem to talk about strange incomplete thoughts and stories that go no where and end too soon.

Especially when you like hanging out at parties or at shows you'll find that most people tripping are probably on acid, but maybe thats because all the people on boomers are busy pulling out every last paper towel from the dispenser in the bathroom or perhaps trying to figure out how to walk up or down the stairs.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: bholzer]
    #14442335 - 05/12/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Ya, it was said by wise hippies, long ago, that you couldnt "bum out" on shrooms cause it was natural and similar to a chemical that was already a part of your brain (DMT)




I wish this were true man, some people can "bum out" on mushrooms and DMT.

I personally think that synthetic or natural doesn't matter. Some natural compounds can be more dangerous than synthetics, and vice versa. It's all about choosing carefully and responsibly!



Sure, agreed, The premise was part of a set and setting type thing, peoples expectations were enhanced


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: iam23]
    #14442424 - 05/12/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

IMO because shrooms grow out of the ground and when people hear the word acid they get the wrong idea first hand and nothing good comes from it. plus they have no idea how its made or what it does accept "flashbacks" and "suicide"! lmao


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: skiddy]
    #14442610 - 05/12/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

natural vs. man made


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: tasmanianian]
    #14442636 - 05/12/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Drop Acid? That sounds painful!


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: iam23]
    #14442688 - 05/12/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Mary Jane, Lucy, Kay etc.

I enjoy the female attributions.

Far more innocent.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: Canadian Bud]
    #14442693 - 05/12/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Because acid works by eating away your brain and the blood that comes from your brain drips down your spinal cord to make you trip...


Duh. :awehigh:


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: Blight]
    #14442768 - 05/12/11 10:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'd say the name "Acid" is what scares people. I was talking to my friend once and mentioned LSD and we were talking about it a bit and then i said "yeah i really want to do some acid soon" and he suddenly goes "WHOA! Now acid isn't good for you for sure" as if it was some different drug than LSD. The synthetic part has something to do with it but a lot of kids i know who are afraid of acid are also the ones who munch down on percocets and xanax. "LSD" is an inspiring drug of our rock culture. "Acid" is a hard drug for people who want to fuck up their brains for life. Go figure :rolleyes:

It's funny because at least 80 percent of the kids at my school still think acid puts holes in your brain and stores in your spinal column


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #14442818 - 05/12/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I just saw a friend I hadn't see in years and we were talking bout drugs. He drinks, smokes, and will do coke and E. I told him I had some MDMA crystals... he didn't know what MDMA was :facepalm: I told him I had some good LSD, too and he asked me how I wasn't perma-tripping. And told me to just take shrooms. Ignorance is fucking annoying. Why/how do so many people do these drugs without doing the proper research? Or any drugs at all? I will never understand.


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Re: Why are shrooms more socially acceptable than acid? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #14442965 - 05/12/11 11:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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percocets and xanax.



Woah man! Big pharma loves us and protects us, those scripts come from doctors so they are SAFE.

On a less sarcastic note, I agree with you 110%. I shudder thinking about the opiates my friends have been addicted to in some cases for years, robbing them of all but their souls, while there are friendly natural alternatives that would be great for people if they were legal. [they're great for people now, they'd just be a more realistic replacement if legal]

Go figure.


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