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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1442324 - 04/09/03 11:07 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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and pacifism ends up with dead iraqi children. those suicide bombers dont fuck around.



Compromise is the key. Rabin could have brought peace to that region if he had lived long enough. He was the first guy to actually have the guts to negotiate with Arafat. He was going to give back land that rightfully belonged to the Palestinians. This would have given Palestinians less reason to be angry, so the violence would have been reduced. Of course it wouldn't stop--it never stops--but it would make life easier to live in that region.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1442346 - 04/09/03 11:14 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

both sides want the same thing, though. how can you compromise when two groups of people feel that the same land is theirs by right of GOD?

it doesnt work.


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    #1442358 - 04/09/03 11:17 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Good point. The religious issue is tough to work around on both sides.

For Palestinians, tho, it's not really so much that they think the land was given to them by God as much as the fact that it was TAKEN from them by Israel. People forget that Israel was formed after WW2 on land that had once belonged to Palestine. Many Zionists used terrorist tactics(I bet you guys thought only Muslims did that) to force the Palestinians off their land. Many moved to Jordan, but some had no choice but to stay behind. The taking of that country by force is the main reason why certain Muslim groups want Israel destroyed. And one reason for a lot of Anti-American sentiment in the world is the fact that we fund and arm Israel, to the extent that it probably wouldn't exist without our protection.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1442390 - 04/09/03 11:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah. thats why its so fucked up.

i think it was.. jon stewart from the daily show, of all people.. that made a really good point about that... he said places like that should be controlled by the UN, or some neutral party, and each religion could have equal access to it.

good idea in theory, but the jews and muslims both would die before they let it happen.

fucking religious nutjobs, fuckin up my damn planet.


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    #1442394 - 04/09/03 11:26 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Ya. I'm not trying to say there's an easy solution, cuz there isn't one. But I definitely know that slaughtering Palestians is just gonna piss them off even more.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1442714 - 04/09/03 01:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

there is no solution other than one of them being non esistent, all the jews will die or all the palistenians. that is the only way violence will stop


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    #1442716 - 04/09/03 01:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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there is no solution other than one of them being non esistent, all the jews will die or all the palistenians. that is the only way violence will stop



Damn, I thought that 6 million of your people dying in the Holocaust would teach you that genocide is not the answer, but I guess I was wrong.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1442798 - 04/09/03 01:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well, when almost every palistenian in palistine says they won't stop until they kill every jew in isrial shit changes. and that is the general consesis you can't change fact


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1443212 - 04/09/03 03:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I hope that clears it up a little.




...yeah, a little... :wink:

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How equal are the two sides?  If your attitude is "there can be only one" how much of one will there be left by the time the other is gone?  Is this a victory?...would this solve the problem?....mabye short term, but its not a solution.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1443347 - 04/09/03 04:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

we wont give up until we get our land back
and its the isreales who will lose


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: downforpot]
    #1443496 - 04/09/03 04:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Howcome all the major conflicts are going on in middle east and/or in muslim lands?




This has been going on for thousands of years. Some say it is fate.

It will not end.


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    #1443545 - 04/09/03 05:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

see what i mean


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1443551 - 04/09/03 05:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

everybody wants our land
we fought for it four thousand of years
nobody will erver take it away from us


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1444044 - 04/09/03 08:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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its cuz muslims are violent motherfuckers.

you dont see any christian terrorist organizations...

damn bloodthirsty muslims.




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and i just realized how the worlds going to end. we're going to go over there and start busting up shit like we did in iraq and shits gonna hit the fan.




You're not very bright, are you.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1444083 - 04/09/03 08:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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its cuz muslims are violent motherfuckers.

you dont see any christian terrorist organizations...

damn bloodthirsty muslims.



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Just because they are small scale does not make them less of a terrorist. Oh and Timothy McVeigh was not Muslim was he?


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