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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440611 - 05/12/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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HippieChick8 said: I can find beer for free in nature? Where?
I don't know about beer for free. I do know you can find fruit in nature for free, (or on your property). Then you can buy sugar, lemons, and yeast on sale at the grocery store. Then you can make a large batch of your own wine for as little as a nickel per glass. You also avoid the sales tax on liquor. 
I tried a friend's homemade wine once..it gave me diarrhea. 
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OrgoneConclusion said: You are such a rebel! 
I still believe Wikipedia's definition of 'ripoff' more than I believe yours.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440638 - 05/12/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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And yet you are unable to come up with an objective measurement for value in order to determine what a rip-off is. My definition is very clear.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440647 - 05/12/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: And yet you are unable to come up with an objective measurement for value in order to determine what a rip-off is.
I don't need to, the definition of 'ripoff' has nothing to do with an objective measurement of value; value is relative, and so are ripoffs.
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OrgoneConclusion said: My definition is very clear.
True, but that doesn't mean it's correct, or backed up any source.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440673 - 05/12/11 03:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't need to, the definition of 'ripoff' has nothing to do with an objective measurement of value; value is relative, and so are ripoffs.
And I used to respect you...
Do you know the EXACT markup of beer in a mom & pop store vs. Walmart?
rip-off: act of being dishonestly treated: an act or example of being cheated or tricked
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440723 - 05/12/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't need to, the definition of 'ripoff' has nothing to do with an objective measurement of value; value is relative, and so are ripoffs.
And I used to respect you...
So you don't respect me now because we have a little disagreement? 
If this causes you to disrespect me, then I'm forced to wonder whether you ever even had any respect for me at all. 
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OrgoneConclusion said: Do you know the EXACT markup of beer in a mom & pop store vs. Walmart?
I do not..what's your point?
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OrgoneConclusion said: rip-off: act of being dishonestly treated: an act or example of being cheated or tricked
Link? Here are two definitions (both with links):
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...a financial exploitation
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A ripoff (or rip-off) is a bad financial transaction. Usually it refers to an incident in which a person overpays for something. A ripoff is distinguished from a scam in that a scam involves wrongdoing such as fraud; whether or not something is a ripoff, on the other hand, is a matter of opinion.
Like I said, ripoffs are relative, whether something is a ripoff or not is a matter of opinion.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440746 - 05/12/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I do not..what's your point?
The vendor with the cheaper beer might have a bigger mark-up; therefore ripping you off more than the more expensive beer.
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So you don't respect me now because we have a little disagreement?
No, because you believe in something that you cannot accurately determine.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440790 - 05/12/11 04:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: The vendor with the cheaper beer might have a bigger mark-up; therefore ripping you off more than the more expensive beer.
True..I thought you were arguing that that wouldn't be considered a ripoff, now you're saying that the cheaper liquor store is ripping me off more than the more expensive one. It's not like it either has to be one or the other, both the expensive and the cheap liquor store can rip me off.
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So you don't respect me now because we have a little disagreement?
No, because you believe in something that you cannot accurately determine.
What do you mean? I believe in the definitions I posted; I already told you that I don't believe in an objective measurement for value, and that one isn't necessary in order to be ripped off. Again, whether or not something is a ripoff is a matter of opinion; there is no such thing as a "right" or "wrong" opinion.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440822 - 05/12/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: The vendor with the cheaper beer might have a bigger mark-up; therefore ripping you off more than the more expensive beer.
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True..I thought you were arguing that that wouldn't be considered a ripoff, now you're saying that the cheaper liquor store is ripping me off more than the more expensive one. It's not like it either has to be one or the other, both the expensive and the cheap liquor store can rip me off.
I was using YOUR definition to show how totally useless it is. There are NO metrics for a rip-off according to your definition.
If I sell you psilcyobin mushrooms and they are another non-psychoactive species of mushroom, then I have ripped you off. If I tell you the baggie contains 3.5 oz and it contains 2.5 oz then I have ripped you off.
Where does opinion come into play here?
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440841 - 05/12/11 04:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: The vendor with the cheaper beer might have a bigger mark-up; therefore ripping you off more than the more expensive beer.
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True..I thought you were arguing that that wouldn't be considered a ripoff, now you're saying that the cheaper liquor store is ripping me off more than the more expensive one. It's not like it either has to be one or the other, both the expensive and the cheap liquor store can rip me off.
I was using YOUR definition to show how totally useless it is. There are NO metrics for a rip-off according to your definition.
That's because what is considered a ripoff is a matter of opinion; there are no metrics for the coolness of colors, yet mostly everybody thinks some colors are cooler than others. 
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OrgoneConclusion said: If I sell you psilcyobin mushrooms and they are another non-psychoactive species of mushroom, then I have ripped you off. If I tell you the baggie contains 3.5 oz and it contains 2.5 oz then I have ripped you off.
Where does opinion come into play here?
For the non-psychoactive mushrooms, my opinion that you sold me a bad product comes into play. For the 2.5 oz, my opinion that you sold me a small amount comes into play.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440877 - 05/12/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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And the repect level just dropped another two points.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440881 - 05/12/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why? 
I'd like to know what's incorrect about what I'm saying..I'm here to learn.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440885 - 05/12/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440894 - 05/12/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Brown is the coolest color.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440918 - 05/12/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I can get an 8th of azurescens here where i live for 30 bucks.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440922 - 05/12/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Please fill in the blanks:
_ _ _ _ _ _ haze all through my brain. ~ Jimi
'The Color _ _ _ _ _ _' with Oprah Winfrey
'Smoke on the Water by Deep _ _ _ _ _ _
Prince's movie '_ _ _ _ _ _ Rain'
OK, now let's do another:
The Nazi Militia were known as _ _ _ _ _ shirts.
The color of feces is _ _ _ _ _.
A football team that really sucks is the Cleveland _ _ _ _ _s.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: jivJaN]
#14440938 - 05/12/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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 WHAT A FUCKING RIP OFF!
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440939 - 05/12/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its funny how "BLACK" could actually work for the first series
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440947 - 05/12/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: Please fill in the blanks:
_ _ _ _ _ _ haze all through my brain. ~ Jimi
'The Color _ _ _ _ _ _' with Oprah Winfrey
'Smoke on the Water by Deep _ _ _ _ _ _
Prince's movie '_ _ _ _ _ _ Rain'
Purple, like my pipe and the weed that's packed in it.
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OrgoneConclusion said: OK, now let's do another:
The Nazi Militia were known as _ _ _ _ _ shirts.
The color of feces is _ _ _ _ _.
A football team that really sucks is the Cleveland _ _ _ _ _s.
Brown, like the color of my skin (well actually, I'm light brown ).
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440967 - 05/12/11 04:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Purple, like my pipe and the weed that's packed in it.
Pics, please!
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440989 - 05/12/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't have a digital camera, so I can't post a pic of the weed, but I assure you, it's extra frosty!
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