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Grafting Pereskiopsis to Trichocereus to Lophophora?
    #14315208 - 04/19/11 12:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Having never grafted, and just getting into cacti, I'm trying to figure this out :P  I'm planning on following this:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1966776

Using Peres for a stock plant, though cutting at the base, rather than the top, to use the root structure, for the Trich, then cap it off with Lopho.

Can this all be done at once, or is it advised to wait for the first graft to take?  I assume the latter.

This procedure should work, all in all correct?  Lopho would still grow much faster, as would the Trich? 

Side note:  my apartment landscaper's weed-ate my Morning Glories that were just developing, almost tall enough to start vining - will they continue to grow, or are the goners having been chopped?

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Re: Grafting Pereskiopsis to Trichocereus to Lophophora? [Re: Dscid]
    #14327349 - 04/21/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

graft to the tip of the pereskiopsis, not the base.  the base will be woody and basically shit for grafting.  Once it starts growing you can cut the stock short and root it.


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Re: Grafting Pereskiopsis to Trichocereus to Lophophora? [Re: kadakuda]
    #14330594 - 04/21/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've never worked with Pereskiopsis, I'm getting cuttings in the mail.  How [long?] should I try to get it to root before I can graft to it?

btw, as for the original question, can I graft Peres>Trich>Loph in column, or do Trich/Loph deserve their own individual Peres stock, as far as growth rate for both goes?

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Re: Grafting Pereskiopsis to Trichocereus to Lophophora? [Re: Dscid]
    #14438367 - 05/12/11 02:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

To be safe you could just wait until the pereskiopsis showed new growth. Usually doesn't take too long under proper conditions.

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Re: Grafting Pereskiopsis to Trichocereus to Lophophora? [Re: Dscid]
    #14440529 - 05/12/11 02:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Dscid said:
can I graft Peres>Trich>Loph in column, or do Trich/Loph deserve their own individual Peres stock, as far as growth rate for both goes?




I do not think that would work. Well, not for long if it did take. Trich would out grow the peres rather quickly.

Why would you want to do that?


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Re: Grafting Pereskiopsis to Trichocereus to Lophophora? [Re: overstand] * 1
    #16253519 - 05/19/12 09:23 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I came across this old thread just now in "Related threads" for another grafting thread. This is possible to do, but I guess it's debatable whether it's preferable over other techniques in a given situation. If you did a bunch of loph and pedro seedling grafts around the same time, you could regraft the lophs to the trichocereus grafts after they reached a certain size and worry about degrafting/rerooting the trichocereus later on. The advantage is that the new loph-pedro union is permanent, and the pereskiopsis base feeding it already has an established root system.


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