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BRF cake test run
    #14440512 - 05/12/11 04:40 PM (10 years, 2 days ago)

Did a test run on a batch of BRF jars while I'm waiting for my syringes.

90 minutes, water up to the bottom of the bottom layer of jars, left it overnight to cool. Checked this morning and all the water was gone. Opened up one of the jars my cake is clumped up as if it was already fully colonized. Does that mean it dried out from the PC, or I packed it too tightly?

It's also pretty stiff


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: smurf_master]
    #14442347 - 05/12/11 11:21 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

Going to PC at 60 minutes next time, and add more water. Don't think it was an issue of compacting because I only tapped the jars to even them out as per the tek.


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: smurf_master]
    #14442375 - 05/12/11 11:25 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

maby to much rice flour ? rice is starchy and will make it stick


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: skiddy]
    #14442605 - 05/13/11 12:12 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

When I did the verm:brf:water 2:1:1 ratio I put the final product in a strainer and gave it a shake or too to get the dripping water out, should I have not done that?


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: smurf_master]
    #14443449 - 05/13/11 03:41 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

Looks like ground rice not BRF, if you are making your own flour you need to make it more powdery.


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14443460 - 05/13/11 03:46 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

No it's definitely ground up, it's just vermiculite covered in brown rice powder.


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: smurf_master]
    #14443488 - 05/13/11 03:56 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

I can see chunks of rice, I know because I made some that consistency and they didn't do well. Did you make your own flour or not? If you make your own flour the only two ways I know of to get it to the right consistency is 2-4 runs through a coffee grinder or a hand held stick blender and plenty of blending, stopping, stirring, and more and more blending and mixing. I tried a regular blender, almost brand new and I blended the crap out of it and burned the motor on my blender out and it still wasn't fine enough, but the stick blender works if you have an hour or so.


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14443492 - 05/13/11 03:59 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

When your BRF is not a fine dust like white flour it is a different volume than store bought BRF, a cup of coarse ground rice is much more sticky when wet and also less rice than a cup of store bought BRF.

Think about it, a cup of brown rice ground into the finest powder that you can get it us only going to be maybe 3/4 cup of flour.


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14443501 - 05/13/11 04:02 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

Yeah made my own, I'll have to ground up better I guess. Glad I didn't waste any cc's on them.

Would you suggest just store bought over homemade?


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: smurf_master]
    #14443588 - 05/13/11 04:45 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

No, actually I've found that homemade chunkier BRF works just as well if not better.

Currently, I am using Max E Glo rice bran meal feed supplement, as per Hamloaf's suggestion. It is working great, has more nutrients and is already ground up for you. Cheap as hell too. So if u can find that maybe try it, if not and u have the means to grind your own go ahead and save the money.

Looks a little tamped down to me. The spores dont really like that...What grade of vermiculite are you using? If it's coarse try to find a mid grade, but don't go to fine grade.

Also your PC shouldnt run out of water. Get them up off the bottom the PF jars shouldnt even be touching water in my opinion. You only need like 2 inches for a 60 minute run, or I do.


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: rustycobwebs]
    #14443596 - 05/13/11 04:47 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

oh and definitely do not strain your mixture.....2:1:1 is the right ratio chunkier rice shouldn't matter that much, but squeezing out the water will matter.

Did you cover the lids with tin foil?


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: rustycobwebs]
    #14443624 - 05/13/11 04:59 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

I have always had moisture problems with the coarse ground brown rice. think about it. You have a cup of coarse BRF, you grind it to a dust like reg BRF, you have 3/4 cup or less of powder now. Coarse grade BRF needs a different recipe with different amounts of rice, water, and verm to work optimally and be the ideal consistency and moisture content.


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14443652 - 05/13/11 05:15 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

ur probably right, I didn't have any problems though biggest pieces I had were 1/8th of a rice kernel.


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: rustycobwebs]
    #14443673 - 05/13/11 05:28 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

None of my cakes have done well, but the ones with store bought organic BRF did better than the coarse ground brown rice batches I tried. Screw cakes, I just harvested over two ounces dry from my coir/verm tub and my zoo poo/coir tub from the first flush. I tested the ones that were grown on coir and OH MAN, I think I might have a winner. I thought EQ was potent, but these take the cake so far, they are chitwan, I can't wait to try the ones grown on zoo poo, I bet they are even more potent with all the extra nutes in the elephant/zebra/hippo dung. These are some potent little goobers...


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: rustycobwebs]
    #14444856 - 05/13/11 12:50 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

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oh and definitely do not strain your mixture.....2:1:1 is the right ratio chunkier rice shouldn't matter that much, but squeezing out the water will matter.

Did you cover the lids with tin foil?





I didn't really squeeze the water out just got rid of the water that was pooling in the bowl

Yeah one layer of foil.


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: smurf_master]
    #14444897 - 05/13/11 01:00 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

you dont need to get rid of the water pooling in the bowl.

just dont take a spoonful of water and put it into your jar.

as said before.

do not strain your mixture.

2:1:1 and then spoon it lightly into your jars.


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Re: BRF cake test run [Re: k00laid]
    #14445111 - 05/13/11 01:42 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

i just made a batch yesterday with the 2:1:1 ratio and did not have any water pooling in the bottom. i actually emptied a jar i steamed monday and never got to and remade it but the cake i took out was a whole, but broke up when lightly squeezed.


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