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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: creationdivine]
    #14441547 - 05/12/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:blah:

Grow up dude. Cops are there to save you from the guy on bath salts that thinks you're a goat.


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: creationdivine]
    #14441600 - 05/12/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Will good cops cover bad cops asses?

You bet your ass they will. 




Sometimes but not always.

There was a story in this forum a month ago where the cops broke into someone's house and said the door was already open, and the other cop narked on him.


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To the bit about cops being trained to lie- they don't need to be.  It comes with the job description.




No, the job description and training says that they need to always tell the truth.

Unless you can find a police job description where it says they are looking for an applicant with good lying skills?


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: Doc_T] * 1
    #14441631 - 05/12/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Cops are decent people, I don't care what any of the kids on this board say.

Are there bad cops? Sure.
Are all cops bad? No way.




Yeah and you're a nurse tech that loves to play LE.  You've admitted that you'd rat out someone that "smelled like or seemed to be under the influence of drugs" that was in your hospital, or maybe it was just under the circumstances of that person having a child/being in the childbirth room (father).  Either way you want to stick your gun in the face of people that haven't harmed you.

You're a snitch and your opinion is literally worth zero points to anyone that matters.

If I get a warning/banned for that I guess I accept it.  A snitch might be a "flame" if you want to dance around and raindance it into being so but to me it's an adjective that describes a class of behavior, and it can't be more appropriately applied than in your case, Mr. DR T.


Alan - To state that there are "myriad examples" would be an understatement.

Police are well-known for mentally and even physically abusing people in interrogation rooms, threatening them with violence or dozens of years in jail if they "don't cooperate".  Once cooperation is had, the person gets nailed with a shitload of jail time.

Police order people to do things that aren't lawful very frequently.  They may not have any recourse if you choose to not "obey" but you might get the shit beaten out of you for ignoring their commands so most people do *whatever* a police officer says, even if they're unsure of whether it's within the scope of the law.

Every time police agencies are caught doing something wrong they deny deny deny without for even a minute collecting evidence and having an impartial, factually-based opinion be given by the police department.  This *IS* Soviet Union style corruption.

Numerous police agencies have made statements about marijuana's harm on society and how if cannabis were legalized that the world would fall apart.  You can cry about how they are "simply opining" but that's bullshit.  They present their arguments as the "scientists of law enforcement" and conjure statistics and figures that are LIES about how CANNABIS is a harmful substance.



These are generalizations but I'm not going to seriously waste my time pointing out specific examples of police telling lies.  The entire police force is a lie in that police claim to "protect and serve" yet when a Washington D.C. woman was raped along with her two friends for FOURTEEN HOURS the police that were called MULTIPLE times didn't come until the next morning.

She sued and lost because:


"it is a “fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen.” Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)."

http://concealed.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/%E2%80%A2-police-no-obligation-to-protect/





Talking about this any longer is going to piss me the fuck off so I'm done.  I am getting tired of arguing with people on the shroomery about how the police don't shit gold bricks though.

I'm getting to the point where I wish that something bad would happen to these folks.  I wish you would have an encounter with your heroes so they can curbstomp your face into the ground and then get off scott free.


But then you'd say they wouldn't do that to you (general, unspecified individual) because your nose is so far up their ass that they can't help but be symbiotic.


You know nothing (again, general unspecified).  Just wait until they eat your fucking body alive.  I truly hope, TRULY hope that karma is fulfilled and that those individuals who monetarily and emotionally support the police get serviced by the police in the only way they know how, with violence.




It's like if I gave weapons and dope to a bunch of hood motherfuckers and then talked about how "AWW SHUCKS THEY AREN"T SO BAD FELLOWS" when they go lobbing rounds down the block and inadvertently kill people, including children.

Fuck this.  You all know *nothing*, but you're going to get educated.  You sit in their camp hoping to "blend in" and "skate by" when in reality you're as far as you can be from the people that would REALLY be there for you and you're as close as you can be to the throat of the lion.

*Gulp* motherfuckers.


Here's some jerk off material for all of the LE fans:







I'll say it one more time:  if I *ever* saw a cop slam a female friend of mine's face into a wall or beat the shit out of her and then walk around all tough, high-fivin' motherfuckers and gettin a 45k paycheck his ass would be on his way to the city septic tank.

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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: Humility]
    #14441875 - 05/12/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)


Fucked royally. Shieeeet, take that.


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: Doc_T]
    #14442004 - 05/12/11 08:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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Humility said:
A bunch of individuals that have been TRAINED to lie said it, that's who.





I always thought that police are trained not to lie.


What makes you think that police training tells them to lie?




Cops are decent people, I don't care what any of the kids on this board say.

Are there bad cops? Sure.
Are all cops bad? No way.




Are they going to admitt they violated your rights, not likely
Are they going to try to get you to incriminate your self, sure
Are they going to lie to you ant tell you that So and So said this when they didnt, Fuck yea

Other than that they are the same as anyone else
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To the bit about cops being trained to lie- they don't need to be.  It comes with the job description.


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No, the job description and training says that they need to always tell the truth.

Unless you can find a police job description where it says they are looking for an applicant with good lying skills?

Yea its called an UC (under cover agent)


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: Doc_T]
    #14442097 - 05/12/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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Humility said:
A bunch of individuals that have been TRAINED to lie said it, that's who.





I always thought that police are trained not to lie.


What makes you think that police training tells them to lie?




Cops are decent people, I don't care what any of the kids on this board say.

Are there bad cops? Sure.
Are all cops bad? No way.




Hear hear. I've met too many cops who are willing to look the other way on some dumb shit like weed, most of them would rather not bother with the paperwork. I think they're actually in the majority, and I think a lot of kids would get in less trouble if they just knew their rights, kept their mouths shut, and let a lawyer pick up the pieces, rather than spout off the whole time they're being arrested and make stupid kid remarks. Let 'em have their powertrip, then go have your day in court, end of story.

Hell, I've been pulled over so many times with active warrants and let go just because I was nice (and informed them that they were gonna find traffic warrants on me) that I truly believe 50% of "that pig tried to fuck me over" stories are just because of someone not being able to keep their mouth shut and be civil.


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: 2jew4u]
    #14442101 - 05/12/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it's not so much that lying comes with the job...
it has more to with the fact that a job with a gun (death phallus) and authority tends to attract the kind of people who WANT that power, i.e. macho shitheads and a few egomaniacs.
not that all cops abuse authority. i've encountered several officers who command true respect... but, ya know. you get to walk around with a gun


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: Humility]
    #14442124 - 05/12/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Humility said:
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Cops are decent people, I don't care what any of the kids on this board say.

Are there bad cops? Sure.
Are all cops bad? No way.




Yeah and you're a nurse tech that loves to play LE.  You've admitted that you'd rat out someone that "smelled like or seemed to be under the influence of drugs" that was in your hospital, or maybe it was just under the circumstances of that person having a child/being in the childbirth room (father).  Either way you want to stick your gun in the face of people that haven't harmed you.

You're a snitch and your opinion is literally worth zero points to anyone that matters.

SNIP




Him speaks the truth. Your ideas of this loving police force are nice for an imaginary world. In the real world lookup, google "(your police force here) no rats". I do mine and I find pictures of the last corrupt cop who was caught on camera beating a man and then NOONE in the dept. testified because you don't rat out a fellow officer.... I find pictures of officers WEARING no rats tshirts and bumper stickers on patrol cars from the time of the trial... One corrupt cop in a whole district ruins the whole damn place. Who do you goto when the cops tell you to fuck yourself ? Another cop ? he's not gonna tell on a fellow officer.

Did you know that when the police force (not marshals, not rangers, the first police) started during the times of the "old west" they didn't often carry guns ? The law man was someone whom you sent for who would come and say ayup thats illegal and you and everyone you know whose WEARING a gun would escort the lawbreaker to the jail. These days in say new york or all of Cali, where fools are raised (sorry guys your state is an economic disaster zone) the cops do whatever they want. They know not a single person can do anything against them. Argue this point all you like I can find numerous abuses of police power in videos, hell I find cops accidentally shooting a guy or tasering a guy and sitting on his chest suffocating him...

"Oh there gonna save you from a guy on bath salts" ? are you kidding? Your personal cop is right beside you ? shoved up your ass perhaps ? (that's for the "kids" quip) ready to come out at a moments notice... Oh wait no he isn't, it takes less than a minute for a person to KILL YOU and more than 10 minutes for the cops to arrive on a good day, If you got off a call cause your murderer isn't gonna call the police while raping your corpse. Your a nurse, thats already brain death and a coffin for you. Police aren't there to protect you or there would be a cop with every person at ALL TIMES. The police are there to lie to you and get you to admit wrongdoing and then incarcerate you. Have you ever watched any of the now many police reality TV shows ? Lying is allowed under law if you think the person is guilty of wrongdoing, it happens often during interrogation.

To not stand against corruption IS TO STAND, to say nothing when wrong is being done means you ARE DOING WRONG. There isn't a grey area here, there is no forgiveness for those who choose a life of righting wrong and then DO WRONG.

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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: Puzzled]
    #14442709 - 05/12/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I gotta say for all the love and peace this board preaches there is some serious, serious hate for police officers...anyone else find this hypocritical?


Yes, many of officers abuse the hell out of their position and do an incredible amount of harm - so hate on that person, the environment that created it, or even better, the actions themselves.  Stop claiming all officers are evil bastards and that the police force must be abolished.  Like it or not, they do lock up a bunch of violent, true criminals that need to be off the streets. (I know priorities are fucked up and they don't get enough of them, but that is another argument).


Also realize that the media will only report a sensational story, so we are reported a much, much larger percentage of negative stories. which of the following will end up on the news?
1) Cops properly execute a warrant and arrest an actual criminal
-OR-
2) Cops bust down a door guns blazing and its the wrong house

Just saying hate the actions/person, not the entire group they associate with.


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: Doc_T] * 1
    #14442830 - 05/12/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
:blah:

Grow up dude. Cops are there to save you from the guy on bath salts that thinks you're a goat.




I live for freedom.  Police fight freedom.  Can you defend their drug war?


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: focker919]
    #14442969 - 05/12/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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focker919 said:
I gotta say for all the love and peace this board preaches there is some serious, serious hate for police officers...anyone else find this hypocritical?


Yes, many of officers abuse the hell out of their position and do an incredible amount of harm - so hate on that person, the environment that created it, or even better, the actions themselves.  Stop claiming all officers are evil bastards and that the police force must be abolished.  Like it or not, they do lock up a bunch of violent, true criminals that need to be off the streets. (I know priorities are fucked up and they don't get enough of them, but that is another argument).


Also realize that the media will only report a sensational story, so we are reported a much, much larger percentage of negative stories. which of the following will end up on the news?
1) Cops properly execute a warrant and arrest an actual criminal
-OR-
2) Cops bust down a door guns blazing and its the wrong house

Just saying hate the actions/person, not the entire group they associate with.




I love a man who shares a joint or tells me "I have cold beer in the fridge help yourself" I have no love in my heart for the man who takes that joint from my hand and gives me a ticket or handcuffs me and sends me to jail.

"Stop claiming all officers are evil bastards" Your missing the point either through obfuscation or misunderstanding. If one bad officer IS NOT pushed forward by all other officers and pointed at, as to having done wrong as an officer, then they are all (in that specific precinct) guilty.

I point to a case a year and some old now where a man was laying facedown on the ground. The officer went to taze him and through whatever reason pulled his firearm instead, and shot him in the back killing him. It was months before he was arrested, fired and sent to prison. Then only because he was a black man, on the ground, and the community was in an absolute uproar. The officer was at home that night and for weeks after before being arraigned for trial. Do you know another person who could in cold blood shoot a defenceless person by ACCIDENT and go home and still be paid while it was figured out ?


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: Flashmob]
    #14443332 - 05/13/11 12:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have come in contact with cops from complete opposite ends of the spectrum. Once i was surrounded by 12 18-20 year olds when i was 16 and had a knife put to my throat and my friend was servilely beaten, but before anything worse could happen, a cop car pulled up and pounced on the guy with the knife while the other cop chased the others in the car. So pretty much my life and my friends life was saved by them.

On the other hand, i was once smoking a joint at a festival and two police officers came over and threw me to the ground, ( i didnt do anything to deserve it, they could of simply told me to put the joint out). They ended up doing a full body search for needles and hard drugs, (i mean wtf, i was smoking a J, not dealing heroin to kids). They then arrested me and took me to the police van and wrote up a report for possession of under a gram of cannabis, then evicted me from the festival and taunted me on the way out saying im going to get schizophrenic and have mental issues because i smoke weed. It was fucking ridiculous.

Point is, it all depends on the nature of the police officer, sometimes you get lucky and they are reasonable, sometimes you get complete jackasses that will make your life a misery even if what you're doing won't affect society in a negative way.


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: tizjack]
    #14443387 - 05/13/11 01:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

But they are ignorant to the demise of our country. Or hypocrites.

All the time.


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: LightShedder]
    #14446515 - 05/13/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

There are decent people that end up in LE.  But, IN MY EXPERIENCE, those that gravitate towards swat team-style anti-drug units do tend to be ignorant power-tripping D-bags.  This isn't my hypothesis, but rather, something I have been able to determine empirically, that is, by direct observation and measurement.  Those kinds of cops ain't cool people.  And as has been mentioned, lying is par for the course in this branch of LE.

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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14448922 - 05/14/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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guywiththegun said:
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Doc_T said:
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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Humility said:
A bunch of individuals that have been TRAINED to lie said it, that's who.





I always thought that police are trained not to lie.


What makes you think that police training tells them to lie?




Cops are decent people, I don't care what any of the kids on this board say.

Are there bad cops? Sure.
Are all cops bad? No way.




Hear hear. I've met too many cops who are willing to look the other way on some dumb shit like weed, most of them would rather not bother with the paperwork. I think they're actually in the majority, and I think a lot of kids would get in less trouble if they just knew their rights, kept their mouths shut, and let a lawyer pick up the pieces, rather than spout off the whole time they're being arrested and make stupid kid remarks. Let 'em have their powertrip, then go have your day in court, end of story.

Hell, I've been pulled over so many times with active warrants and let go just because I was nice (and informed them that they were gonna find traffic warrants on me) that I truly believe 50% of "that pig tried to fuck me over" stories are just because of someone not being able to keep their mouth shut and be civil.





Lemme guess... You are not only white, but also live in a middle class or affluent area.  Way to live in the dream world that revolves around your personal experiences. 

Prove me wrong and the *might* be an inkling of legitimacy in your statement.  But only as it pertains to your uncharacteristic geography.


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: tizjack]
    #14448971 - 05/14/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I have come in contact with cops from complete opposite ends of the spectrum. Once i was surrounded by 12 18-20 year olds when i was 16 and had a knife put to my throat and my friend was servilely beaten, but before anything worse could happen, a cop car pulled up and pounced on the guy with the knife while the other cop chased the others in the car. So pretty much my life and my friends life was saved by them.

On the other hand, i was once smoking a joint at a festival and two police officers came over and threw me to the ground, ( i didnt do anything to deserve it, they could of simply told me to put the joint out). They ended up doing a full body search for needles and hard drugs, (i mean wtf, i was smoking a J, not dealing heroin to kids). They then arrested me and took me to the police van and wrote up a report for possession of under a gram of cannabis, then evicted me from the festival and taunted me on the way out saying im going to get schizophrenic and have mental issues because i smoke weed. It was fucking ridiculous.

Point is, it all depends on the nature of the police officer, sometimes you get lucky and they are reasonable, sometimes you get complete jackasses that will make your life a misery even if what you're doing won't affect society in a negative way.





You shouldn't thank the police for "saving" you in the first situation.  Police live for situations where they might get to draw their weapon.  They weren't there for you, they were there for themselves. 

You should be pissed that whoever called the police didn't arm themselves and get you out of there much sooner.  Could've had the situation resolved before the PoPo even got there.  AND those kids would never fuck around on that block again because they know crazy mutha with a big azz gun lives on that block. 

Thanking these fuckers for things we should be doing ourselves is pathetic.  What's even more pathetic is that we've traded our balls for a whip across the back if try to stand up for ourselves.


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: Joe Joe]
    #14450258 - 05/14/11 09:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Prove me wrong and the *might* be an inkling of legitimacy in your statement.  But only as it pertains to your uncharacteristic geography.



Most of the cops I know are Dallas, TX area, different precincts and divisions. I won't say which, as I don't wanna get anyone in trouble. One guy job was serving bench warrants around the Oak Cliff area, which has been featured on more than a few COPS episodes, as well as extensively on the TV show the First 48. I'm not saying this is where I lived, I'm saying it was close to me, and most of the LEO that shopped with me (I worked in guns and ammo sales) were involved with serving warrants/running traffic in the area.

Also, a close friend of mine (known for about 15 years or so) is a Dallas area LEO. I hear it direct from him, if you run your mouth, you're gonna piss someone off. Cops are only human, and while they should have that switch to turn off their tempers, cops are only human. He's actually looking to get out once his contract is over, he was in the military for 7 or 8 years and kinda wants to go back.

As for where I lived at the time, it was Aryan methville. I used to carry a pistol walking to my car and back to get a bookbag or groceries. I lived in shitty apartments with gangbangers occasionally hanging out in the courtyards. I never had any trouble, but I damn sure prepared for it.

I'm not making an excuse for cops who abuse power, they're pigs and they're assholes, and they deserve whatever karma pays them, just the same as anyone who abuses their power does. My experience with cops in high-crime and drug areas is that they'll dish out what you give them. Too many people think they have to sit there and make a scene about their rights and then they're gonna get let go. The truth is, your rights don't matter shit until he's got the cuffs on you, so you just play nice until you get in front of a judge. If a cop is going to arrest you, he's already made his mind up, you're not going to convince him otherwise. Having been arrested once, been in the back of a cop car a few times, and had more than my share of run-ins with the law due to teenage and adolescent transgressions, I've never had any cops give me more than a shitty attitude.

I was also assaulted by 3 teenagers at that same apartment complex I was just talking about, 3 friends of my sister who decided they wanted to hang around my moms house after she broke up with her boyfriend. That boyfriend and two of his punkass friends tried to stomp me, and succeeded for a while. Eventually, I pulled a knife, they dispersed, the cops showed up and took my report. Once he heard I'd pulled a knife, he immediately did everything he could to make sure this couldn't get turned around on me for assualt with a deadly, took official pictures of my wounds, etc etc.

That could have easily gone another way, but I grew up with a lawyer for a dad, and really he's more in the boat you guys are then I am: he thinks you just don't trust police, regardless. When that friend of 15 years joined the force, my dad told me write him off, don't talk to him because he's part of the "system" now. I was lucky to be raised instructed on how to deal with the police, because my dad realized that kids my age need to know how. That's where I learned to keep my mouth shut, if I'm going to be arrested, I'm going to be arrested. There's no point pissing off the guy with the gun and badge, because if he loses his temper, I'm fucked, and he's probably going to get away with it. But if I'm quiet, compliant, and I KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT about what I'm being accused of, my defense attorney is going to love me, and I'm more likely to get off scott free or cut a deal for probation.

Yeah, I'm white, and yeah, maybe now I live in what you'd call suburbia, but I don't speak from a place of inexperience with the police. I've been on both sides of a pig. If you piss anyone off, they're going to make things as hard for you as they can.

Remember:


1) Comply. Seriously, even if the pig is asking you to do some dumb shit, or being a dick. Just shut up, do what he says, don't give him any reasons to do anything stupid.

2) Keep your mouth shut (exercise your right to remain silent. You don't have to do anything but identify yourself by law, and provide proof of ownership and liability if you're driving. That is the extent of your dealings with the LEO, doing EXACTLY what he tells you while telling HIM nothing in return.)

3) Refuse to submit to a search. Never let LEOs search your vehicle without a warrant. They'll tell you "I'll just get a warrant if you don't let me," but the truth is they have to sit there and wait for approval from a magistrate. If it's late at night, they gotta get that guy out of bed sometimes, depending on the jurisdiction, so if it's 3AM and he's pulling you over for being "suspicious" and trying to get a search warrant, that magistrate is gonna get the phone call and say "fuck that" and go back to sleep. And you're free within 30 minutes or so, because he's not allowed to hold you indefinitely. The only thing you have to worry about is if they bring a K9 unit and have it sniff your car, but once again...only so many K9s, and so much jurisdiction. If they can't get the dogs in time, you're free to go. If they get a warrant/dog and search you despite you not giving consent, you still aren't screwed, because there's only so many places they can look, legally.

4) Don't speak to anyone but your attorney. Ever. Identify yourself, comply with the officers commands (refusal to is grounds for arrest) and if you get arrested, let your lawyer take care of it.

YOU DO NOT KNOW how to talk to the police unless you are a police officer yourself, I promise you. You think you have all the answers, you don't. Be civil, be compliant, and just shut the fuck up until your lawyer shows up. You wouldn't believe how many people go to jail over some stupid shit they said to a cop that they should have said to their lawyer. Remember, a lawyer is legally obliged to defend you, regardless of your guilt, so he's on your side.

Also, it's a good idea to have a lawyer on retainer, or at least a good lawyers card. The sooner you call him after an arrest, the better. If you can call him in jail, that's best, he'll come visit you and advise you on how best to proceed. This also keeps you from having to use a public defender, which can mean getting a lawyer that at worst is in the prosecutions pocket, at best is just indifferent to you. Having a lawyer who is financially vested in you is best.

I know we all want to be Johnny Rebel and stand against police violence, but the fact of the matter is that if the cops are going to swing a club on your skull, they're gonna do it. Best to have strong legal ground for when you swing back with your own club, to the tune of damages for lost wages, pain and suffering, and hospital bills. People win these cases against the police all the time, but they LISTEN TO THEIR ATTORNEYS.

Sorry for the rant...I just figured I'd make my position clear and provide some advice to those not in the know. Remember, you aren't a cop, you aren't trained in the law, and you don't have a gun. Your best weapon against police corruption is community involvement (so you can prevent the cops being called in the first place), knowing your rights and having a lawyer who is hired explicitl


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14450331 - 05/14/11 09:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)



This is a presentation by a local lawyer I saw at the Ignite conference here in town. She speaks truth, and you NEED to watch this or something like it to get an idea of how not to snitch yourself out, while remaining compliant and still respecting your rights.


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14451109 - 05/14/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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1) Comply. Seriously, even if the pig is asking you to do some dumb shit, or being a dick. Just shut up, do what he says, don't give him any reasons to do anything stupid.





You speak like a slave.

You disgust me.

Enjoy the last grains of freedom that remain in your hourglass.


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Re: Man busted for growing mushrooms...Shiitake mushrooms. [Re: Humility]
    #14451394 - 05/14/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Humility said:
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1) Comply. Seriously, even if the pig is asking you to do some dumb shit, or being a dick. Just shut up, do what he says, don't give him any reasons to do anything stupid.





You speak like a slave.

You disgust me.

Enjoy the last grains of freedom that remain in your hourglass.



:lol: You're right you should make things worse for yourself by throwing a tantrum.  That'll show em you're no slave.  Think very carefully whats worth it and what inst-"is that the hill i want to die on?"  Reminds me of a buddy of mine who cant keep his mouth shut, and more than once got taken in rather than just getting a ticket and going on his way.  If you're indeed innocent, being belligerent is not going to help your case.


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