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Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid
#14440362 - 05/12/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sounds good and all but I don't think this helps his chance of actually getting elected.
If anything this is probably going to hurt his campaign which hes supposedly announcing on Friday.

http://nation.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/12/ron-paul-i-would-not-have-ordered-bin-laden-raid
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: skatealex2]
#14440384 - 05/12/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah, well ron paul sort of sucks when you really think about it
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: skatealex2]
#14440385 - 05/12/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Glad he wasn't president at the time.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: g00ru] 2
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and by that i mean...he's got some good ideas but...chief executive officer of the U.S.A? nah, some of his ideologies are just too hokey, although if more politicians were like him we'd have a better nation imo.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: skatealex2] 1
#14440394 - 05/12/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: 28064212]
#14440408 - 05/12/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: Glad he wasn't president at the time.
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guruu said: and by that i mean...he's got some good ideas but...chief executive officer of the U.S.A? nah, some of his ideologies are just too hokey, although if more politicians were like him we'd have a better nation imo.
Word. I don't think Ron Paul would be very good during war or on our defense.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: g00ru]
#14440431 - 05/12/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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guruu said: and by that i mean...he's got some good ideas but...chief executive officer of the U.S.A? nah, some of his ideologies are just too hokey, although if more politicians were like him we'd have a better nation imo.
So hes too "hokey" for you?
If you ask me our current presidents and officials are pretty fuckin "hokey". Why not try something new? "god" knows we need it.
And yet you say if more politicians were like him we would be better off??
So, What are you trying to say again?
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: DeadHearts]
#14440451 - 05/12/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I won't vote for him either, I like some of his ideas though. I'm hopenytized
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: PreparationH]
#14440497 - 05/12/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Paul said the United States should have gone after bin Laden the same way it went after Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, architect of the Sept. 11 attacks, by working with the Pakistan government.
"They arrested him, actually, and turned him over to us," Paul said, suggesting the same formula should have applied to bin Laden.
Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/12/ron-paul-i-would-not-have-ordered-bin-laden-raid#ixzz1MAliGbsU
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: citricacidx]
#14440530 - 05/12/11 02:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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FAUX NEWS THIS JUST IN: RON PAUL IS A TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER AND A COMMIE!
I think he puts too much hope in the intelligence of AmURRica and says whatever the fuck he wants.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: limestoneman]
#14440549 - 05/12/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Given the political realities today, I have no problem with the raid. If Paul or those that think like him ran things the last 40 years, we would not have been targeted by foreign terrorists in the first place though.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: limestoneman]
#14440556 - 05/12/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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limestoneman said: FAUX NEWS THIS JUST IN: RON PAUL IS A TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER AND A COMMIE!
I think he puts too much hope in the intelligence of AmURRica and says whatever the fuck he wants.
Your right. For me it's damn refreshing to see a politician that doesn't pander to the lowest common denominator though.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: MelloRed]
#14440569 - 05/12/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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limestoneman said: FAUX NEWS THIS JUST IN: RON PAUL IS A TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER AND A COMMIE!
I think he puts too much hope in the intelligence of AmURRica and says whatever the fuck he wants.
Your right. For me it's damn refreshing to see a politician that doesn't pander to the lowest common denominator though.
It is refreshing. There's not much hope for him, but I admire him. And plus, HE DON'T GIVE A FUCK.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: PreparationH]
#14440596 - 05/12/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: I won't vote for him either, I like some of his ideas though. I'm hopenytized

This is pretty much how Obama looks to me all the time after he not only killed bin Laden but made it into a political pageant immaculately calculated to slam the wind out of his opposition.
Fuckin' G bitch.
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I think the raid needed to happen. I dont think they needed to kill him till he was dead tho. 
There needed to be a trial.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Kada]
#14440635 - 05/12/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ron Paul dun GOOFED!
I'd still vote for him if I was American though.
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If Obama based his campaign on "hope and Change". Gets into office, and doesn't change a god damn thing. Maybe it will take someone kinda far out to make any real change.
If by some miracle Ron Paul got elected. I doubt many of his more radical ideas would get anywhere. So it would be in his best interest to work on some of his more sensible ones.
Electing RP would send a message that the people expect shit to change. Asking for more than you want is always a good way to bargain.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Kada]
#14440646 - 05/12/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kada said: I think the raid needed to happen. I dont think they needed to kill him till he was dead tho. 
There needed to be a trial.
Ideally, I agree. What would have happened though is that no one would have accepted keeping him in a jail in the states. So he'd be held in Gitmo. Republicans would go into rage mode about Obama not having the balls to kill him. Civil rights groups would start complaining about Gitmo (rightfully so) again. OBL would end up being tried via military tribunal. That would bring complaints from both sides and be viewed as a sham trial by those distrustful of the US.
None of that would happen quickly either. It would be a political burden that would have lasted to the 2012 election. It sucks, but I have to admit that if I was in Obama's position, I would have made sure the goal was to kill him.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Sticky Green]
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I think the real powers that be would bitch slap him and tell him what was and wasn't going to happen. Shut up and smile, read the TelePrompTer.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Kada]
#14440669 - 05/12/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Should have made him a gay porn star for the lulz
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Kada]
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: skatealex2]
#14440711 - 05/12/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Burn it with fire!!!!! 
After a trial of course. Were civilized after all right? Lolz
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: citricacidx] 1
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Paul said the United States should have gone after bin Laden the same way it went after Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, architect of the Sept. 11 attacks, by working with the Pakistan government.
"They arrested him, actually, and turned him over to us," Paul said, suggesting the same formula should have applied to bin Laden.
Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/12/ron-paul-i-would-not-have-ordered-bin-laden-raid#ixzz1MAliGbsU
Sooo basically thread title is misleading - its not that he wouldn't go after him at all (which is how people portray it) - its more that he would've gone about it differently.
Unfortunately its not how they'll play it off
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: DeadHearts]
#14440817 - 05/12/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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guruu said: and by that i mean...he's got some good ideas but...chief executive officer of the U.S.A? nah, some of his ideologies are just too hokey, although if more politicians were like him we'd have a better nation imo.
So hes too "hokey" for you?
If you ask me our current presidents and officials are pretty fuckin "hokey". Why not try something new? "god" knows we need it.
And yet you say if more politicians were like him we would be better off??
So, What are you trying to say again?
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: DeadHearts]
#14440835 - 05/12/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you realize that Republican party members don't get to vote on who gets nominated to run for President? "The people" will never decide if Ron Paul gets to run. And congressionally appointed delegates won't, because they're all neoconservatives who love the prison- and military-industrial complex.
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Tchan909 said: Do you realize that Republican party members don't get to vote on who gets nominated to run for President? "The people" will never decide if Ron Paul gets to run. And congressionally appointed delegates won't, because they're all neoconservatives.

Oh ok.
I love the "Lets just accept it because its business as usual. Nothing we can do" appoach.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#14440842 - 05/12/11 04:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Got any hot ideas, Mr. Revolutionary?
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Devlish2]
#14440849 - 05/12/11 04:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Really? I remember voting in a primary for Ron Paul pretty distinctly.... But by the same argument, we don't really vote for the president either...
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I love the "question authority? Ill mock you" approach 
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: twighead]
#14440859 - 05/12/11 04:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Paul said the United States should have gone after bin Laden the same way it went after Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, architect of the Sept. 11 attacks, by working with the Pakistan government.
"They arrested him, actually, and turned him over to us," Paul said, suggesting the same formula should have applied to bin Laden.
Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/12/ron-paul-i-would-not-have-ordered-bin-laden-raid#ixzz1MAliGbsU
Sooo basically thread title is misleading - its not that he wouldn't go after him at all (which is how people portray it) - its more that he would've gone about it differently.
Unfortunately its not how they'll play it off 
Yeah, I was like... did anyone actually read the article?
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#14440863 - 05/12/11 04:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's a pressing question - what do you or anyone get out of your questioning authority if you don't have any actual ideas for how to change things aside from aping the hollow populism of career politicians?
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Kada]
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You heard that they found Osama's "Diary"? If Osama Bin Laden was really a genius, in the middle of his I HATE AMERICAN rants in his diary, he should have written a page like:
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These questions you are asking are not the right questions.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: fall]
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fall said: Really? I remember voting in a primary for Ron Paul pretty distinctly.... But by the same argument, we don't really vote for the president either...
Pretty sure you remembered wrong. Candidates are nominated by delegates. It doesn't go up for popular vote with the Republican party, only with the Democratic party.
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Everybody should question authority and I question your sanity if you don't. It's kind of hard for one man like Deadhearts to actually do anything about the current sad state of the world but these lyrics are a great example of what must happen before anything changes:
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Devlish2]
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I just don't think that "questioning authority" and "aping the hollow populism of career politicians" are the same thing.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: cacharstar]
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Good rebuttal. I hadn't thought of that.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: cacharstar] 1
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id still rather vote and put all my effort into spreading Ron Pauls name because AT LEAST he is bringing up the right questions. If he wasnt on stage everything about the drug war, the economy and the middle east would be the SAME OL RHETORIC.
With Ron Paul up there he is forcing Drug War and Foreign policy into public debate, we now can at least question if our civil liberties are being violated and if people say they aren't, they at least have to give some sort of answer as to why
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: realfuzzhead] 2
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even though I don't agree with all of his positions the ones I mostly do are the ones that are getting the most resonance throughout the nation - all publicity he (and his ideas) gets is good for my ideals so I'll be happy to vote for him if it comes down to obama v paul even if I don't think he'll win.
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realfuzzhead said: id still rather vote and put all my effort into spreading Ron Pauls name because AT LEAST he is bringing up the right questions. If he wasnt on stage everything about the drug war, the economy and the middle east would be the SAME OL RHETORIC.
With Ron Paul up there he is forcing Drug War and Foreign policy into public debate, we now can at least question if our civil liberties are being violated and if people say they aren't, they at least have to give some sort of answer as to why

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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: realfuzzhead]
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realfuzzhead said: id still rather vote and put all my effort into spreading Ron Pauls name because AT LEAST he is bringing up the right questions. If he wasnt on stage everything about the drug war, the economy and the middle east would be the SAME OL RHETORIC.
With Ron Paul up there he is forcing Drug War and Foreign policy into public debate, we now can at least question if our civil liberties are being violated and if people say they aren't, they at least have to give some sort of answer as to why

It's nice for a fellow Republican to challenge their own status quo.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
#14440985 - 05/12/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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like, thats what our whole system is supposed to be about. Checks and Balances, how can people dislike Paul? At least he forces you to show that our foreign & domestic policies are worthwhile..
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14440997 - 05/12/11 04:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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realfuzzhead said: like, thats what our whole system is supposed to be about. Checks and Balances, how can people dislike Paul? At least he forces you to show that our foreign & domestic policies are worthwhile..
For real dude.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
#14440998 - 05/12/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Regardless it you like him or not and assuming that he will run under a Libertarian banner then it is possible that he will suck votes away from whoever runs against Obama therefore enshuring another term in office. Remember Ros Perot?
So yea it is a party fail but a party I'd attend...
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: cacharstar]
#14441011 - 05/12/11 04:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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He's running on the republican ticket.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: cacharstar]
#14441013 - 05/12/11 04:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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cacharstar said: Regardless it you like him or not and assuming that he will run under a Libertarian banner then it is possible that he will suck votes away from whoever runs against Obama therefore enshuring another term in office. Remember Ros Perot?
So yea it is a party fail but a party I'd attend...
He didn't run under the Libertarian ticket in 2008. That was Bob Barr, who was a fake Libertarian. What Ron Paul did was run for the Republican ticket and he didn't get it.
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realfuzzhead



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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: cacharstar]
#14441014 - 05/12/11 04:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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well if Paul doesnt win I wouldn't vote for any of the other Dbag GOP's anyways, I'll keep my Social Programs over expansionary foreign policy (albeit both parties support war i'd say dem's a little less, at least in voter base).
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fall said: Really? I remember voting in a primary for Ron Paul pretty distinctly.... But by the same argument, we don't really vote for the president either...
Pretty sure you remembered wrong. Candidates are nominated by delegates. It doesn't go up for popular vote with the Republican party, only with the Democratic party.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_Republican_primary,_2008
It definitely happened... but I won't argue that there isn't more than meets the eye going on there with a delegate system etc. It was my first election, so I was/am a noob
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: DeadHearts]
#14441088 - 05/12/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think your main problem is the medieval election system you still have in place. Like Al Gore got more votes but Bush was elected... You need to change that system if you ever want to have fair elections.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Kamek]
#14441089 - 05/12/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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They both sucked in their own ways but I shudder to think of what crazy shit Al Gore would've pushed to implement had he been elected
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: twighead]
#14441102 - 05/12/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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twighead said: They both sucked in their own ways but I shudder to think of what crazy shit Al Gore would've pushed to implement had he been elected 
Worse than Bush? Perhaps nothing would be different. Who knows?
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Devlish2]
#14441108 - 05/12/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Its hard to say.. I think things would be a whole lot different, worse in some ways better in others. I don't really prefer one over the other but if I had to choose - I'd take Gore because his policies don't seem to involve killing people.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: twighead]
#14441122 - 05/12/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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President Paul sounds dumb. I think that's enough of a reason for him to never become president. President Trump on the other hand......
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Kamek]
#14441130 - 05/12/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kamek said: President Paul sounds dumb. I think that's enough of a reason for him to never become president. President Trump on the other hand...... 
I don't follow your logic.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Devlish2] 1
#14441220 - 05/12/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kamek said: President Paul sounds dumb. I think that's enough of a reason for him to never become president. President Trump on the other hand...... 
I don't follow your logic.
Because it's stupid.
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: Kamek]
#14442194 - 05/12/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kamek said: President Paul sounds dumb. I think that's enough of a reason for him to never become president. President Trump on the other hand...... 
funny guy is troll
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Re: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14442220 - 05/12/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nah because,
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