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henik0
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cold snap myc growth
#14439281 - 05/12/11 09:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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so I have 12 1/2 pint regular mouth PF tek jars. during transport to my new home across country they were subjected to a cold snap of about 35 degrees at night in the U-Haul. This, combined with the fact that I think I over saturated the PF Tek Mix a tiny bit, has resulted in a stunted but VERY dense mycellium colonization at the bottom of the jars.
the tops of the jars don't look like they're colonizing so fast, but they do have this strange rope/branch structure all the way up the sides of the jar. As a result of this cold snap, myc growth pretty much stopped and I had to wrap the box in a black garbage bag and place in the sun for awhile to wake them back up, I started seeing very dense new growth after a few days of the heating. I also flipped the jars in an effort to help the myc along.
today I looked and one jar has contaminated near the top. There is a picture below. It looks like a giant mass of mycellium growing like a large button however it has a green-ish tint. Trich I believe. Anyways, I don't really have the room here to build a proper SGFC in my current housing arrangement. So I was thinking, what if I just crumbled all the cakes together in one of those black plastic planter's trays that people use to germinate seeds with some tin foil on top. then when they myc has healed and is ready to fruit put the clear plastic dome on the tray with a few holes and some micropore tape and set it up near a window or put a daylight bulb on it for a few hours? any thoughts? basically if I can't just dump the cakes when they're fully colonized I was going to try and break them up as they are (I'd say about 85% colonized, the inside of the cake looks as if though it's colonized on the infected one.) and mix them up in the tray, no bulk or anything, just whatever was in the jars. seems a bit more stealth to me than a 65QT sterlite tub with 4 inches of perlite on the bottom haha. don't get me wrong, I love a good SGFC.
sorry this is so long. I'm a bit faded 
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RogerRabbit
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Re: cold snap myc growth [Re: henik0]
#14439296 - 05/12/11 09:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
henik0 said:
Bacteria. Toss it out.
Many new growers mistake that linear bacteria growth for rhizomorphic mycelium, but it isn't. RR
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henik0
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seriously!? shit. the cold period that made the myc go dormant must have paved the way for the bacteria? because pretty much all my jars do that. perhaps a contaminated syringe?
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k00laid
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Re: cold snap myc growth [Re: henik0]
#14439324 - 05/12/11 09:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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too long. didnt read.
dont incubate your jars in a lunchbox.
the second picture you posted had an invitro fruitbody.
and if you are going to crumble cakes. spawn them to something.
dont just crumble them to change their shape cuz you think it kewl.
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henik0
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Registered: 11/18/10
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Re: cold snap myc growth [Re: henik0]
#14439342 - 05/12/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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well all these jars have that type of bacterial growth then. my inoculation techniques were some of the cleanest I've ever been. must have been a problem with the spore syringe, the growth halting provided food to bacteria present, or just plain bad luck.
Koolaid: that wasn't a lunch box lol, it's a suitcase that I just used to hold the jars. I'm still in the process of unpacking. I've never had an invitro fruit but I have seen pictures and none of them look green. and crumbling them into a tray was simply a matter of convenience, not because I think "it kewl."
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YHWH
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Re: cold snap myc growth [Re: henik0]
#14439361 - 05/12/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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If your cakes weren't contaminated crumbling them into a tray would be more inconvenient, IMO. I don't see how it is any more stealthy and you're damaging the mycelium then not giving it anything else to grow or feed on. You would get much better results fruiting them as cakes (assuming you do that part correct)
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k00laid
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Re: cold snap myc growth [Re: YHWH]
#14439372 - 05/12/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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how is ripping apart the mycelium in your cakes convenient?
if you are going to hurt them that bad at least spawn them to a larger substrate source or something.
i just dont see how changing the shape of the cake is convenient.
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YHWH
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Re: cold snap myc growth [Re: k00laid]
#14439403 - 05/12/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also, you probably shouldn't have flipped your jars. That and all the shifting the dry verm layer probably did during your move most likely helped introduce contamination into your jars. Don't fuck with them too much, that dry verm layer is your jars filter.
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