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OfflinePreparationH
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Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol * 4
    #14438933 - 05/12/11 07:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Good friend I've grown up with slipped into being a moron.  Does multiple perc 30's a day, blowing all his money, has stolen from people/family, and is generally just now scummy and a druggy.  For YEARS I've given him advice, tried to tell him what to do, get off the drugs and yadda yadda.

Last night we were sitting around and he starts smokin fuckin percs out of tinfoil in front of me so I toldem to step outside because I want to knock some sense into him.  We walk outside and each get off like 3 hits, my fuckin forehead is lumped up but his dumb fuck parents who barely speak english run out and grab and pull him away and he's crying yelling "I just need advice dawg I don't want to fight you."



Now, I've given him advice, EVERYONE'S given him advice.  What he needs his fuckin parents to put their foot in his ass but they don't, they enable him to be a junky loser and lay around high as a fuckin kite in their basement 24/7 and hand him money left and right.  I don't care if you think what I did was wrong, I'm worried my friend is about to end up in jail or dead.

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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: PreparationH]
    #14438941 - 05/12/11 07:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

haha yeah ive gotten beaten up by a friend before for acting like a shitard

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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: PreparationH]
    #14438944 - 05/12/11 07:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

best bet is to just let him hit rock bottom. He either stays there living on the street blowing people for 10 bucks to get some dope or rebounds back up. Hopefully no one else give him a couch to live on or something.


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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: PreparationH]
    #14438945 - 05/12/11 07:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You can't change people.
Either accept him or walk away.


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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: human being]
    #14438947 - 05/12/11 07:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

how old is this drip of a person?

dose him some iboga.

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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: argg]
    #14438955 - 05/12/11 07:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

can't you force him into some program?
How old is he?


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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: Doc_T]
    #14438958 - 05/12/11 07:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Doc_T said:
You can't change people.
Either accept him or walk away.




Truth.  No matter what anyone else says, its ultimately his decision what he wants to act like.  If he doesn't WANT TO change, he just won't.

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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: pouihi]
    #14438967 - 05/12/11 07:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

pouihi said:
can't you force him into some program?
How old is he?



that has a low success rate....either way,if he chooses to rot or be stagnant,we shouldn't have any say as much as it seems the right thing to do.

...sorry to hear about your friend...don't put too much more time into that one....lost too many friends by them not wanting to change.life got better when I moved on.


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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14438974 - 05/12/11 07:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

He's 21, known him since we were 14.


He just joined the national guard because he "needs structure," he has gone through meps and everything and apparently is scheduled for basic in August so he knows he has issues, he just enlisted trying to get that to fix his ass but WTF? He's still doing drugs getting ready to go away soon...He knows he is a drug addict, I just thought maybe physically putting my hands on him might make a difference because my oldest brother beat the fuck out of my other older brother and it set him on the right track so I was just trying to help my friend by doing the same but mommy and daddy don't want to see him get injured they want to just let him slowly waste away doing drugs and I think him fleeing to the army is the wrong move. 

I woke up this morning and laughed because I'm a fucking idiot too, I looked in the mirror and have his 2 knuckles indented on my forehead and got nothing accomplished from it all but a nice egg on my skull. :facepalm:

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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: PreparationH]
    #14438981 - 05/12/11 07:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Basic Training could change him, it's basically a brainwashing exercise.


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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: PreparationH]
    #14438988 - 05/12/11 07:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If your going to beat your friend up to teach him a lesson learn to fight first lol.


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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: Kada]
    #14439003 - 05/12/11 07:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Huh?

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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: PreparationH]
    #14439010 - 05/12/11 07:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Then you wouldn't have knuckle marks on your head man. lol


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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: Doc_T]
    #14439022 - 05/12/11 07:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Basic Training is NOTHING compared to what it used to be. But for him it will be VERY tough as he might start having withdrawals quick and with the DI's in his face 24/7 he might change, or he might ruin his life more by getting Dishonorable discharged. He needs to get off drugs, fleeing to the army will only make shit worse. I can relate to this story as a buddy of mine as well has gone down the shit can And I've known him since we were in 8th grade. The dude ended up moving out a perfectly good house with his family and went and moved into a crack house started robbing and boosting GPS, radios, loose change, and just about anything he could find in your car. He just recently got a girl Pregnant and now is facing 2-5 years in Prison for robbing a house and fighting/Biting the cops. I've stopped talking to him a year a go Because he just wouldn't listen to me or anybody else. they just have to learn for themselves eventually. :shrug:

And who knows I might run into your friend down at basic is he going to Jackson ?
I leave August 15th

Edited by XxT1AlphaxX (05/12/11 07:50 AM)

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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: Kada]
    #14439024 - 05/12/11 07:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I was trying to have it last a while not just knock him out lol, I wanted him to experience having to hit a good friend back and getting beat up to last so maybe he could process it and realize that we care about him enough to stand up and knock one another around.

You get hit back when you engage people without deadly force lol, can't dodge them all.

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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: PreparationH]
    #14439028 - 05/12/11 07:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Not me. :shrug:

I'm like a ninja mang.


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"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: Kada]
    #14439029 - 05/12/11 07:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

man those kind of situations always suck
luck to ya theres been a time or two iv almost laid hands on a freind
its a shitty feeling


but the army is going to fuck your freinds brain
hard
wrong move


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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: XxT1AlphaxX]
    #14439031 - 05/12/11 07:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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XxT1AlphaxX said:
Basic Training is NOTHING compared to what it used to be. But for him it will be VERY tough as he might start having withdrawals quick and with the DI's in his face 24/7 he might change, or he might ruin his life more by getting Dishonorable discharged. He needs to get off drugs, fleeing to the army will only make shit worse. I can relate to this story as a buddy of mine as well has gone down the shit can And I've known him since we were in 8th grade. The dude ended up moving out a perfectly good house with his family and went and moved into a crack house started robbing and boosting GPS, radios, loose change, and just about anything he could find in your car. He just recently got a girl Pregnant and now is facing 2-5 years in Prison for robbing a house and fighting/Biting the cops. I've stopped talking to him a year a go Because he just wouldn't listen to me or anybody else. they just have to learn for themselves eventually. :shrug:



Yea I think this guy will benefit with the Army because it is getting him away from this place but I feel like if he idn't do this, in 2 years he might be that guy robbing cars and shit just like our other buddy did.

I don't get it and never will, it's not logical which I understand is the problem.  The friend of ours who did heroin and started robbing homes to him was a "junky loser" and I tried saying that to his face last night, "Remember when you said J was a junky loser, that's where you're headed."

And his answer is "We're both idiots, I know"  WTF is that shit?  I know I am an idiot? COP OUT.  I want to go strangle him then resuscitate him and strangle him again because punching him made him turn the water works on and get his parents involved so he can go back inside and smoke more percocet :nonono:

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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: Kada]
    #14439036 - 05/12/11 07:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

oh shit, when i read the original post i thought you meant you took three hits of the smoked perc's :doublefacepalm:

you meant three hits to the body.

sounds like a fucked up situation. sorry to hear that your friend has fallen into the depths of addiction. addictions gotta be one of the ugliest things i've ever seen.


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Re: Tried tough love with a good friend, didn't work out lol [Re: PreparationH]
    #14439038 - 05/12/11 07:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Damn his parents are idiots. If my kids did that I would take them out back and beat them myself. They should have thanked you and jumped in on it too.


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"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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