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dizzyease
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Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it?
#14438650 - 05/12/11 04:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Im almost done a few pf tek cakes, and they're ready to be dunked then rolled. but what im wondering, would it be better to throw them out, and fruit new cakes, or let them flush for a second time?
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Alienscience



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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: dizzyease]
#14438651 - 05/12/11 04:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Most of the time you can get 3/4 of what you got from your first flush out of your 2nd flush. I'd suggest trying to harvest them again, I've gotten as many as 3 flushes out of a good cake.
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: dizzyease]
#14438661 - 05/12/11 04:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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dizzyease said: Im almost done a few pf tek cakes, and they're ready to be dunked then rolled. but what im wondering, would it be better to throw them out, and fruit new cakes, or let them flush for a second time?
I would say...go with a 2nd flush! O yeah! Just dunk,dont roll for the 2nd flush!
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dizzyease
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: Perun]
#14438664 - 05/12/11 04:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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shit, I rolled. anyways, then another question. what is the downside to leaving jars in consolidation for more than a week? lol another 12 jars are overlapping on these 2nd flush ones.
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: Alienscience]
#14438667 - 05/12/11 04:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Alienscience said: Most of the time you can get 3/4 of what you got from your first flush out of your 2nd flush. I'd suggest trying to harvest them again, I've gotten as many as 3 flushes out of a good cake.
I USUALLY get at least 4 respectable flushes from mine. Every once in a blue moon i may get 5 but usually the fifth one is a single fruit. But do what ya want. IMO 2nd flush is usually the best one.
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dizzyease
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Awesome. Well, i rolled them in verm, I dont imagine that is too bad. will i have to induce pinning? and is leaving consolidating jars for more than a week bad?
usually things are more spaced out, hence the questions,
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: dizzyease]
#14438708 - 05/12/11 05:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: Luger0815]
#14438723 - 05/12/11 05:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Edited by Luger0815 (07/04/11 11:09 AM)
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guywiththegun
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: Luger0815]
#14438748 - 05/12/11 05:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Totally. Just get two SGFCs or one that will hold 24 cakes, wal-mart sells one by sterilite with light green handles that is like 105qts or something, that's what I use and they work really good. When I was doing PF, I had two tubs going with 24 cakes in each tub going in a "sea of green" inspired grow, where I would put a new batch of cakes in every 10-12 days or so. It worked pretty well, you could probably do something similar with just one tub, you could even do just six pf jars at a time and have 4 strains going.
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: guywiththegun] 1
#14438758 - 05/12/11 05:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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dunk and and fruit them again. and while your waiting making up some more cakes.
how much yoiu got from your flush will be a rough guide to how much is left from the cake.
if your cake was covered in pins, and put out a massive 100g fresh flush there might not be much left. if it was the average 50g. you should still have plenty left to put out on the 2nd.
back in my last pf grows i would get 50g on first and 50g on the 2nd, then id didthc the cakes for new ones.
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: dizzyease]
#14438770 - 05/12/11 06:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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dizzyease said: Awesome. Well, i rolled them in verm, I dont imagine that is too bad. will i have to induce pinning? and is leaving consolidating jars for more than a week bad?
usually things are more spaced out, hence the questions, 
From:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10023106#10023106
Quote: "It's been explained dozens of times why not to roll between flushes. Contaminant spores are naturally going to land on the cake during a flush, where they sit harmlessly, unable to germinate on the fully colonized substrate. If you roll after a flush, the fresh layer of verm protects those contaminant spores and allows them to germinate, contaminating your cakes. As said several times above, only roll after the initial pre-first flush dunk. RR"
If you just rolled, I don't think it would do any harm to rise the verm off. I don't know, maybe someone else could chime in?
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: dizzyease]
#14438785 - 05/12/11 06:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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dizzyease said: shit, I rolled. anyways, then another question. what is the downside to leaving jars in consolidation for more than a week? lol another 12 jars are overlapping on these 2nd flush ones.
Leaving jars in consolidation for to long will cause them to pin and fruit in the jars.
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dizzyease
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: lsatrap]
#14440060 - 05/12/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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lsatrap said:
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dizzyease said: shit, I rolled. anyways, then another question. what is the downside to leaving jars in consolidation for more than a week? lol another 12 jars are overlapping on these 2nd flush ones.
Leaving jars in consolidation for to long will cause them to pin and fruit in the jars.
Perfect. and im rinsing off the verm now!
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: dizzyease]
#14440084 - 05/12/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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rolling a second time is more precautionary than anything else.
if everything else is perfect and youre getting contams after the second flush. then it could b a problem. but its usually not.
rinsing cakes however is almost always a good thing.
gets bacteria off. lots of evaporation happens when you put it back into FC
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dizzyease
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: k00laid]
#14440542 - 05/12/11 02:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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how would I get them to pin?
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k00laid
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Re: Is 2nd flush from pf tek worth it? [Re: dizzyease]
#14441657 - 05/12/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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you place a fully colonized substrate into fruiting conditions to initiate pinning.
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