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helix
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being nice to people who suck, is there any objective grounds for judgment?
#14438428 - 05/12/11 02:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Does anyone else have difficulty with this? I really want to be able to accept people as they are without judging, or more importantly, letting opinions flow but not let those judgments stop me from treating people equally but right now my roommate is letting a friend stay over who's just really rubs me the wrong way. She's 19 and pregnant, reads nothing but romance novels, eats mcdonalds every day and curses constantly, sometimes literally after every sentence. Her tone of voice is constantly critical or unhappy. Her and my roommate who invited her over regularly have these little arguments over stupid, insignificant things and when my roommate is out, she gets bitter
These are the people who i have difficulty being nice to:
Aren't there any objective grounds for judgment? For example, in my mind, i feel pretty justified in this judgment because she's hurting her kid's health by eating such unhealthy food every day, as well as supporting an unethical company like mcondalds who mistreats their employees and rapes the environment with their pollution. This isn't consistent with my recent desire to attain a "non-judging" attitude to all other people, but these arguments are had to deny for me
Edited by helix (05/12/11 02:31 AM)
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Re: being nice to people who suck, is there any objective grounds for judgment? [Re: helix]
#14438472 - 05/12/11 02:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah there are obvious fuck faces, but who are we to say who deserves judgement. I try not to pass judgement on people, because it's disrespectful and you've gotta let people live, but that doesn't mean that there's something wrong with me thinking what they're doing is wrong.
For example the stupid bitch eating shitty food while pregnant. Does she smoke too? Once I bummed a pregnant chick a cig and I felt really weird about it but it was like...she's gonna get it from somewhere 
I would never say anything to her but in my head I was like "wow...seriously?" 
we all do things that others would judge us for, that we think are completely normal. I smoke weed every day and a lot of people would judge me and label me something that I'm not, so I say fuck'em. And the people I judge would say fuck me so 
You don't have to be nice though
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Re: being nice to people who suck, is there any objective grounds for judgment? [Re: Anthony917] 1
#14438622 - 05/12/11 04:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think it's important to maintain a provisional form of judgment of others - IE be open to change. Evaluate people's personalities, but remember that people change over time, have hidden dimensions, and reasoning that you don't understand. Some people that I originally judged very harshly have turned out to be some of my most important friends.
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Re: being nice to people who suck, is there any objective grounds for judgment? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#14438790 - 05/12/11 06:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Judging people ain't that nice...I try not to do it, on the other hand it's not that smart to treat everybody nice, not to mention not emotionally healthy.
I just try to react to what people do and say...relationships are more natural this way...
And don't be a prick about the whole McD thing, it's not like she's washing tolbutaminde with vodka down while she is pregnant.
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helix
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Re: being nice to people who suck, is there any objective grounds for judgment? [Re: 13.step]
#14439707 - 05/12/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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13.step said: And don't be a prick about the whole McD thing, it's not like she's washing tolbutaminde with vodka down while she is pregnant.
Let me reiterate, she's eating THIS EVERY DAY:
According to the handout, McNuggets also contain several completely synthetic ingredients, quasiedible substances that ultimately come not from a corn or soybean field but form a petroleum refinery or chemical plant. These chemicals are what make modern processed food possible, by keeping the organic materials in them from going bad or looking strange after months in the freezer or on the road. Listed first are the "leavening agents": sodium aluminum phosphate, mono-calcium phosphate, sodium acid pyrophosphate, and calcium lactate. These are antioxidants added to keep the various animal and vegetable fats involved in a nugget from turning rancid. Then there are "anti-foaming agents" like dimethylpolysiloxene, added to the cooking oil to keep the starches from binding to air molecules, so as to produce foam during the fry. The problem is evidently grave enough to warrant adding a toxic chemical to the food: According to the Handbook of Food Additives, dimethylpolysiloxene is a suspected carcinogen and an established mutagen, tumorigen, and reproductive effector; it's also flammable.
But perhaps the most alarming ingredient in a Chicken McNugget is tertiary butylhydroquinone, or TBHQ, an antioxidant derived from petroleum that is either sprayed directly on the nugget or the inside of the box it comes in to "help preserve freshness." According to A Consumer's Dictionary of Food Additives, TBHQ is a form of butane (i.e. lighter fluid) the FDA allows processors to use sparingly in our food: It can comprise no more than 0.02 percent of the oil in a nugget. Which is probably just as well, considering that ingesting a single gram of TBHQ can cause "nausea, vomiting, ringing in the ears, delirium, a sense of suffocation, and collapse." Ingesting five grams of TBHQ can kill."
Although your "don't be a prick" advice is still a good point
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Re: being nice to people who suck, is there any objective grounds for judgment? [Re: helix]
#14439734 - 05/12/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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if she's being a cunt to you, let her know. but for the most part i think its important to just spread positive vibes and be kind to people.
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Re: being nice to people who suck, is there any objective grounds for judgment? [Re: s0nny]
#14439964 - 05/12/11 12:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i just try to reduce exposure to people that have nothing to offer while building relationships with people who i feel i can learn from or receive positive emotions.
for people who i must encounter repeatedly (work) that are total drains on intelligence, i barely manage giving directions due to more likely being more effective just doing the task yourself, rather then waiting for them to fuck it up. lots of
i would say the fact you are asking the question and are aware of your feelings probably means you are not being an active douche about it, despite your inner feelings.
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Re: being nice to people who suck, is there any objective grounds for judgment? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
#14439998 - 05/12/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You already passed judgment on her dont act like you didnt, tool.
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