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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14432434 - 05/10/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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It makes me laugh when I hear "they should be cheap here because they grow wild"
Shrooms in the wild could never keep up with domestic demand,just think of the thousands of people that trip everyday and how many pounds that would be I can't keep up with it and I'm just one of many many who cultivate



Well 90% of people who want mushrooms are usually young, stoned, and too lazy or paranoid to go out to the fields anyway, and the mushrooms are either picked by people who are ahead of the game or are not picked at all.  Just my theory

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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: iamnotadream]
    #14432513 - 05/10/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Your probally right on that count I agree but I still find it hard to believe wild growing shrooms could ever supply the demand


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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: the bizzle]
    #14437140 - 05/11/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: iamnotadream]
    #14437177 - 05/11/11 09:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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steelmonkey said:
It makes me laugh when I hear "they should be cheap here because they grow wild"
Shrooms in the wild could never keep up with domestic demand,just think of the thousands of people that trip everyday and how many pounds that would be I can't keep up with it and I'm just one of many many who cultivate



Well 90% of people who want mushrooms are usually young, stoned, and too lazy or paranoid to go out to the fields anyway, and the mushrooms are either picked by people who are ahead of the game or are not picked at all.  Just my theory



I wouldn't be so quick to make that judgement.  There is a supply and demand.  North Texas definitely has a demand that needs to be met. It needs to be cultivated to meet that demand.  Who does is is none of my business.


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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14438019 - 05/11/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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1.that's twice as much as what i would consider a rip-off




We go through this nonsense once a year here. A rip-off is either not delivering the goods or misrepresenting them as something else.

A mutually-agreed upon price does not fit the definition.


Which definition are you using?


A ripoff (or rip-off) is a bad financial transaction. Usually it refers to an incident in which a person overpays for something.

He seems to be using the term correctly, according to this definition. :shrug:


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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid] * 1
    #14438196 - 05/12/11 12:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

*sigh*

How can one OVERPAY when the price is mutually agreed upon?

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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14438224 - 05/12/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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*sigh*

How can one OVERPAY when the price is mutually agreed upon?

:facepalm:




http://www.thefreedictionary.com/overpay

"to pay (someone) at too high a rate"

Even if you agree to pay the price named it doesn't make that price fair or equal to what it is worth.  Paying over what something is worth constitutes overpaying to me.

Regardless of what a dictionary says language is simply a way to get a point across.  We all know that this person is talking about a deal in which they are paying more than they would in an ideal situation.  Arguing about whether he should have used one word or another is a giant waste of time when we understand the person(the purpose of language).

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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14438226 - 05/12/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Whether the price was mutually agreed upon or not is irrelevant..to overpay for something is to pay more than that something is worth. An example would be if I bought a beer at a liquor store, then found the same beer in a different liquor store but for half the price; in this scenario, the first store ripped me off (even though the price of the beer was mutually agreed upon), the beer I bought from it was a ripoff.


Please provide a source for to back up your definition of "rip-off".


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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Halsfield]
    #14438236 - 05/12/11 01:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Even if you agree to pay the price named it doesn't make that price fair or equal to what it is worth. 




Where is the objective list of fair prices and how do I find it?


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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid] * 2
    #14438245 - 05/12/11 01:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Whether the price was mutually agreed upon or not is irrelevant..to overpay for something is to pay more than that something is worth




Really? So you can buy a six pack of beer at a convenience store a block away or drive 10 miles and 'save' fifty cents. Perhaps if you fly to Manila, you can get a six pack for $1.50.

So you are truly defining a rip-off as a price > than the lowest price in the world or what?


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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid] * 2
    #14438248 - 05/12/11 01:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Is $10 million for a genuine Van Gogh a rip-off or not? Yes or no, please.


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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14438291 - 05/12/11 01:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Whether the price was mutually agreed upon or not is irrelevant..to overpay for something is to pay more than that something is worth




Really? So you can buy a six pack of beer at a convenience store a block away or drive 10 miles and 'save' fifty cents.


That wouldn't really be a ripoff IMO, a ripoff is something sold at a significantly higher price than it is worth.


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Perhaps if you fly to Manila, you can get a six pack for $1.50.


If I buy a six-pack at a liquor store in Manila for $1.50, then find another liquor store in town that sells the same six-pack for 75¢, then the six-pack I bought would be a ripoff.

If you can get a six-pack of beer for $1.50 in Manila, then beer in the US is a ripoff.


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So you are truly defining a rip-off as a price > than the lowest price in the world or what?


I would say it's a price > than the lowest price available.

Still waiting on the source for your definition.


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OrgoneConclusion said:
Is $10 million for a genuine Van Gogh a rip-off or not? Yes or no, please.


If it's worth that much (or more), then no, it's not a ripoff; if it's worth substantially less than that, then it is a ripoff.


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid] * 1
    #14438413 - 05/12/11 02:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Whether the price was mutually agreed upon or not is irrelevant..to overpay for something is to pay more than that something is worth.




If the price is mutually agreed upon, then isn't the buyer essentially saying that the product is worth whatever he's paying?


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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: deCypher] * 3
    #14438503 - 05/12/11 02:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Of course, but Parrot-head (and others) keeps pretending there is some objective value written down somewhere.


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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14438968 - 05/12/11 07:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You do know there is such a thing as an art appraiser? Guess what their job is? "Art appraisal is the process of evaluating the quality, condition, rarity, provenance and source of a particular piece of art in order to establish its value."

Let's also talk fair market value - "is an estimate of the market value of a property, based on what a knowledgeable, willing, and unpressured buyer would probably pay to a knowledgeable, willing, and unpressured seller"

There are values written down somewhere for some items. For all items there is an inherently fair value based on how much it cost to manufacture, how much it cost to bring it to the location it is being sold at, how much of the same item is being sold in the same area, and how much of a markup the seller is using to make a profit.  If someone paid $1million for a van gogh painting that was valued by art appraisers at $10million he would have gotten a deal.  If he paid $20million he would have paid over its stated value which is one of the definitions of a ripoff.  Of course these values change and can change fast based on the market, but they still have a value that can be stated if you know the above info(expenses, profit, etc).

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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
    #14439258 - 05/12/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I would say it's a price > than the lowest price available.

Still waiting on the source for your definition.




In this case, paying even $2 for them could be considered a rip-off, since one can find them for free in nature.
Everything in more than something and less than something else.
The fact that those people choose to pay the price, no matter how much that would be, implies the fact that they decided that, considering the circumstance, they made the choice that was most convenient to them. How can it be both most convenient and a rip-off? Care to explain this strange process? :strokebeard:


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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14439678 - 05/12/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Where is the objective list of fair prices and how do I find it?



Yeah, especially the one for illegal drugs. :lol:


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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #14440376 - 05/12/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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deCypher said:
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Poid said:
Whether the price was mutually agreed upon or not is irrelevant..to overpay for something is to pay more than that something is worth.




If the price is mutually agreed upon, then isn't the buyer essentially saying that the product is worth whatever he's paying?


Not necessarily..it's possible to knowingly pay for more than something is worth.


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Of course, but Parrot-head (and others) keeps pretending there is some objective value written down somewhere.


Nice  straw man, I never said that; you refuse to accept the definition I posted, and also refuse to provide a source for your own. :shrug:



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I would say it's a price > than the lowest price available.

Still waiting on the source for your definition.




In this case, paying even $2 for them could be considered a rip-off, since one can find them for free in nature.


I can find beer for free in nature? Where? :ooo:


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How can it be both most convenient and a rip-off? Care to explain this strange process? :strokebeard:


Say I am close to a liquor store that sells beer for twice as much as a liquor store 5 miles away sells it..I don't have a bike or a car, so the most convenient thing for me to do would be to buy the more expensive beer (which is a ripoff compared to the beer at the farther liquor store).


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
    #14440584 - 05/12/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I can find beer for free in nature? Where?

I don't know about beer for free.  I do know you can find fruit in nature for free, (or on your property).  Then you can buy sugar, lemons, and yeast on sale at the grocery store.  Then you can make a large batch of your own wine for as little as a nickel per glass.  You also avoid the sales tax on liquor. :cool:

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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: HippieChick8]
    #14440595 - 05/12/11 03:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You are such a rebel! :rebelride:


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