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Re: What should we do with illegal immigrants living in the US [Re: Orium]
    #14468320 - 05/17/11 02:57 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

Yep, I remember when Reagan did that and I was none too fucking happy. 

I am in the construction business.  It so happens that my primary trade, upscale framing carpentry, and location, NY metro area, generally does not encounter Hispanic illegal competition.  Almost all of the illegals I compete with are Eastern European, NOT Hispanic.  They are paid cash, they don't pay any income or payroll taxes at all.  Cash payments for labor are the norm for illegal invaders.  I want them out. 

Now what you got to say about that?  As far as English being the official language, we don't have one.  Too bad.  Previously people who came here wanted to be Americans and learned English.  Then the idiot politicians decided to require that documents and public notices be supplied in several languages, at great expense.  Now there is less incentive to learn English and assimilate and many of our cities are becoming Balkanized with enclaves of ethnicity that persist as a result of the enabling perpetrated by pandering political peckerheads.  Little Italy is just a quaint place name.  Germantown isn't even that.  Chinatown persists because many of them came after the great pandering of the 1960s.  But those people back then were legal immigrants.  Legal.  They came here to be Americans and live by American law.  The current infestation of criminal gate crashers, of whatever race, needs to be expelled.  None of them should be granted amnesty.  Reagan's justification for that abysmal idiocy was that there would be huge progressive fines for people who hired illegals after that.  Never happened. 

If you do not enforce the law you have no law.


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Re: What should we do with illegal immigrants living in the US [Re: dshow]
    #14468586 - 05/17/11 03:52 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

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Re: What should we do with illegal immigrants living in the US [Re: Orium]
    #14469047 - 05/17/11 05:36 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

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The Arizona SB 1070 is racist as it gets.  Undocumented workers are largely stereotyped as Latino.  Whens the last time you heard the words "illegal immigrant" and thought of a white person?





that's because the bulk of the illegals are coming in via our southern
border, yes there's a lot of white, yellow, the other brown and black
illegals in the US but they constitute about 10% of the total


I know a few white illegals and a black illegal, should they be deported, yes

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Re: What should we do with illegal immigrants living in the US [Re: Orium]
    #14469070 - 05/17/11 05:41 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

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Perhaps people have seen their neighborhoods turn to shit, had violent crime rates skyrocket, watched the schools become overrun with non English speaking vermin,




This is apart of the racism I am talking about.  First off, since when was English the official language of The United States?




what race are French people? what about the Russians or Bosnians? how is it racism

as for an official language, that's a state level issue

Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii,
Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Mississippi,
Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota,
South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wyoming,
Louisiana and Nebraska all have official language statutes yet are all
still required to print in english and spanish

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Re: What should we do with illegal immigrants living in the US [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #14469107 - 05/17/11 05:51 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

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Of course racism is involved, even though it does not account for every single individual's position. There is a reason why white conservatives respond by saying "systematically round them up & deport them" with % over-represented relative to national average. That being said, I don't even think it is a majority position among GOPers, though I believe it's a sizable minority.

If racism has nothing to do with it, then the relative %s holding these two positions (pathway to citizenship vs. deportation for those here to work) should be the same among the people (black & white alike) who participated as freedom riders, in the marches, sit-ins & so forth in the South during the civil rights era... usually being taunted, beaten, arrested, jailed, & in some cases murdered... the same as those who were doing the taunting, beating, arresting, & in some cases murdering. However, of course we would not find that to be the case.



Conservatives believe the law should be applied equally to all regardless of their skin color.  It is racist to do otherwise.  Liberals want to differentially enforce a law because there is a racial disparity in the makeup of the violators.  Do you think it is wrong to prosecute murder because the perpetrators are disproportionately of one race?

The marches were over 40 years ago.  The country is a different place.


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