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Extreme high end designer clothing.
#14436582 - 05/11/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Such an investment spending thousands of dollars on rags to gain the greed of others. This form of materialistic over-indulgence has no limits, but it sure does help boost those greedy bastard's egos. It makes people believe their socioeconomic status is what defines them as beings above everyone else.
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Re: Extreme high end designer clothing. [Re: TheCreampie]
#14436620 - 05/11/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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egotistical bastards force shame and self-hatred among those without enough money to afford to 'fit in' but when it comes to inner strength that is where the fabulous fall and hardy hearts rein tall
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Re: Extreme high end designer clothing. [Re: TheCreampie] 4
#14436829 - 05/11/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why does what someone does with their money concern you in any way?
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Re: Extreme high end designer clothing. [Re: Diploid]
#14436899 - 05/11/11 08:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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thats not the real thing that bothers me though, its the fact that they can not just go about their daily lives without making it harder on other people, like younger people for example that is where it (greed, popularity) starts and usually the one with more money always brags to other people. When they are older they still show off but it's more in their personality sometimes. I'm sure you've seen examples of this, its the cause of much hatred and ignorance around the world.
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InTiMiDaToRdInO said: thats not the real thing that bothers me though, its the fact that they can not just go about their daily lives without making it harder on other people, like younger people for example that is where it (greed, popularity) starts and usually the one with more money always brags to other people. When they are older they still show off but it's more in their personality sometimes. I'm sure you've seen examples of this, its the cause of much hatred and ignorance around the world.
So you are angered when people are truthful about their material possessions?
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thats not the real thing that bothers me though, its the fact that they can not just go about their daily lives without making it harder on other people
The isolated actions of one person cannot make things harder for a second person unless that second person cooperates. And in that case, who's making things hard for whom? The way I see it, it's the second person making THEIR OWN life hard.
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InTiMiDaToRdInO said: thats not the real thing that bothers me though, its the fact that they can not just go about their daily lives without making it harder on other people, like younger people for example that is where it (greed, popularity) starts and usually the one with more money always brags to other people. When they are older they still show off but it's more in their personality sometimes. I'm sure you've seen examples of this, its the cause of much hatred and ignorance around the world.
if someone has alot of money they should feel proud of themselves because they can support themselves and the people close to them in a world where little green paper rules. I don't have a problem with people having alot of money, a have a problem with people who have alot of money and flaunt themselves about and say 'hey look at me' instead of just living their life and going about the daily business like the rest of the world. You can not argue the fact that with money comes arrogance and with lack of comes humility(in most cases). I'm talking bout large amounts of money like rich people just to be clear.
But as for being truthful about possessions there is a difference between this. Steve: "Hey Bob I finally saved enough money to buy a new car, I like it, it's much better than my old one" Bob: "Sure Steve it'll fit right in with my couple cars and it even matches my truck's paint color, isn't that funny?"
Now tell me that isn't a little discouraging when Bob could easily of said "That's good to hear Steve, I'm glad you got something you like. Good for you *smile* "
***in reply to Diploid: well as that may be true, when it comes to some people with rough pasts that include money troubles and such when they get upset over a persons actions that include money or whatever here then it conjures up past emotions and sometimes even memories, but mostly emotions, of their past and it merely a connection that is made by simply seeing another person do something and that will upset or cause ill feelings within a person sometimes
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InTiMiDaToRdInO said: thats not the real thing that bothers me though, its the fact that they can not just go about their daily lives without making it harder on other people, like younger people for example that is where it (greed, popularity) starts and usually the one with more money always brags to other people. When they are older they still show off but it's more in their personality sometimes. I'm sure you've seen examples of this, its the cause of much hatred and ignorance around the world.
if someone has alot of money they should feel proud of themselves because they can support themselves and the people close to them in a world where little green paper rules. I don't have a problem with people having alot of money, a have a problem with people who have alot of money and flaunt themselves about and say 'hey look at me' instead of just living their life and going about the daily business like the rest of the world. You can not argue the fact that with money comes arrogance and with lack of comes humility(in most cases). I'm talking bout large amounts of money like rich people just to be clear.
But as for being truthful about possessions there is a difference between this. Steve: "Hey Bob I finally saved enough money to buy a new car, I like it, it's much better than my old one" Bob: "Sure Steve it'll fit right in with my couple cars and it even matches my truck's paint color, isn't that funny?"
Now tell me that isn't a little discouraging when Bob could easily of said "That's good to hear Steve, I'm glad you got something you like. Good for you *smile* "
You didn't address Diploid's argument. The rich person is doing no more than not concealing their material possessions, however "flashy" you may find them. It is you who is creating this situation that you perceive as negative.
As to your poorly constructed example, it is completely unrealistic. There is a difference between trying to belittle an apparent friend, and wearing expensive clothing.
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Re: Extreme high end designer clothing. [Re: 4896744]
#14437700 - 05/11/11 10:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I believe I got to Diploid fully.
and as for my example there is little difference between bragging and belittling. If you refer to my earlier post to which you replied Quote:
So you are angered when people are truthful about their material possessions?
in my post I stated the issue was the bragging, and to be "truthful about possessions" requires no bragging at all, thus no ill feelings towards those who do not brag. BUT we are talking about the people who DO brag and DO consider themselves better than other people merely because they have more little green paper
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I don't have a problem with people having alot of money, a have a problem with people who have alot of money and flaunt themselves
Well, then it's YOU who has the problem, no? You're giving another person control over your emotions by creating a problem for yourself where none existed.
The other guy has no problem at all. He couldn't care less about how other people get their panties in a bunch over his flaunting. It probably makes him laugh and enjoy the money all the more to see people rile themselves up over his private behavior.
Why in the world someone would give another person power over them that way is beyond me.
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Re: Extreme high end designer clothing. [Re: Diploid]
#14437803 - 05/11/11 11:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Arrogance: Offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride. Proud contempt of others. Contempt: The feeling or attitude of regarding someone or something as inferior. Flaunt: Show off. To display or obtrude oneself to public notice.
Now that we all have the same definition of these key words.
There is a difference between simply wearing expensive clothes and flaunting about in expensive clothes, is there not? One who is simply wearing expensive clothes has no ill intentions while the other obviously knows what will happen if they flaunt and thus they expect it and they welcome it which makes them arrogant.
IF someone gets upset at the first person then that is their own fault yes. BUT if it is because of the flaunting person then they most definitely had help becoming upset.
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There is a difference between simply wearing expensive clothes and flaunting about in expensive clothes, is there not?
No. That's a distinction you made up in order to justify your outrage at someone else's behavior you don't like.
Why do you give a shit what other people do anyway? Get over it. You'll live longer.
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Re: Extreme high end designer clothing. [Re: Diploid]
#14437929 - 05/11/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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honestly it doesnt really bother me that much but I can still argue from a point of some who it does bother and there is a difference between walking and flaunting while wearing expensive clothes the fact it upsets someone is now irrelevant. The definition of flaunting is clear and you must admit some people do flaunt and show off and that will cause ill feelings within some people. BUT simply walking and wearing any thing of any price should not cause harm among anyone. The argument in this thread is all about showing off WITH the addition of money. Nothing personal as well i enjoy arguements or debates as to gain a perspective on a side i may not know
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Re: Extreme high end designer clothing. [Re: TheCreampie]
#14438207 - 05/12/11 12:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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TheCreampie said: Such an investment spending thousands of dollars on rags to gain the greed of others. This form of materialistic over-indulgence has no limits, but it sure does help boost those greedy bastard's egos. It makes people believe their socioeconomic status is what defines them as beings above everyone else.
Sounds like someone is jealous of my $700 alligator boots. Too bad you cannot afford something like that!
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Re: Extreme high end designer clothing. [Re: Diploid]
#14438429 - 05/12/11 02:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diploid said: There is a difference between simply wearing expensive clothes and flaunting about in expensive clothes, is there not?
No. That's a distinction you made up in order to justify your outrage at someone else's behavior you don't like.
Um, what? There is definitely a difference between simply walking around with expensive clothes and walking around with expensive clothes while posing in ostentatious positions and popping your collar/flipping your fancy dress in a manner expressly designed to draw attention to it. I agree with you that one shouldn't let one's emotions be influenced by someone's vanity or desire to show off, but nonetheless there is a difference between someone showing off their clothes in an attempt to pridefully impress others and someone simply wearing their clothes.
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Re: Extreme high end designer clothing. [Re: deCypher] 1
#14438515 - 05/12/11 03:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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God-damned nature!
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InTiMiDaToRdInO said: honestly it doesnt really bother me that much but I can still argue from a point of some who it does bother and there is a difference between walking and flaunting while wearing expensive clothes the fact it upsets someone is now irrelevant. The definition of flaunting is clear and you must admit some people do flaunt and show off and that will cause ill feelings within some people. BUT simply walking and wearing any thing of any price should not cause harm among anyone. The argument in this thread is all about showing off WITH the addition of money. Nothing personal as well i enjoy arguements or debates as to gain a perspective on a side i may not know
So what if some people show off? You don't even have to be rich in order to show off, yet, you're only whining about rich people doing that. What does that tell you about your own perception and feelings on the matter? When I feel that someone's just showing off, the next thing I think about is why does that make me feel like that, and which of my own emotional inadequacies hide behind that. Do you also think that doctors are showing-off their medical knowledge through saving lives? Also, do you think that there's a possibility that some of your actions are bothering other people, without you even having the intention of offending anyone? Maybe they call you a show-off too.
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Re: Extreme high end designer clothing. [Re: MushroomTrip]
#14438727 - 05/12/11 05:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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a doctor does something benificial by saving lives, thats totally different than being arrogant come on now haha. We were only talking about people with money and clothes showing off n stuff which is why i've only said that has bothered me and plus it does indeed only bother me due to my past experiences with money trouble and my own mental and emotional inadiquicies BUT alot of the population has the same view about rich people and them showing off do they not?
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InTiMiDaToRdInO said: a doctor does something benificial by saving lives, thats totally different than being arrogant come on now haha. We were only talking about people with money and clothes showing off n stuff which is why i've only said that has bothered me and plus it does indeed only bother me due to my past experiences with money trouble and my own mental and emotional inadiquicies BUT alot of the population has the same view about rich people and them showing off do they not?
Why dont you give me an example of this "flaunting" that is apparently so irksome.
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Re: Extreme high end designer clothing. [Re: deCypher]
#14439193 - 05/12/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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There is definitely a difference between simply walking around with expensive clothes and walking around with expensive clothes while posing in ostentatious positions and popping your collar/flipping your fancy dress in a manner expressly designed to draw attention to it.
How do you determine that someone's intent is to "flaunt"? That's an internal state of mind that no one can discern in another. It's like accusing someone of "trying to make you angry".
They may in fact be doing that, or it may just be your erroneous projection of their state of mind. That happens in PS&P all the time where someone accuses another of nefarious motives for debating a topic.
Given that you can't know someone's state of mind, I don't think it makes any difference whether or not they're walking in in what you perceive as a "flaunting" manner.
It's the invention of a state of mind that is not evidenced in order to justify anger over someone's behavior. It's the equivalent to saying that gays hold hands in public in order to "flaunt" and piss off straight people.
Or maybe they're simply holding hands, period.
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