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Grains in SGFC?
    #14434989 - 05/11/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Was planning on doing the PF tek with 24 cakes in 2 SGFC chambers, but I have a PC and I've been reading that grains colonize faster. Can I fruit them in my SGFCs?


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: smurf_master]
    #14435023 - 05/11/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yes, but you'll need to case them, which doesn't work as well for grains.

I'd keep the SGFC for BRF cakes & make up a couple of mono tubs for grains for spawning to bulk.

Check the AMU Q&A link in my signature. All of our teks are up on the first page. That'll give you a great idea on how to do bulk.

Also, you can use your PC for the PF tek instead of the boiling method.


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: smurf_master]
    #14435049 - 05/11/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Grain=>bulk sub
BRF/verm=>PF cake

Sure you can fruit in SGFC, but you will have to prep a sub.

As far as colonization time: I think that will depend largely on the method of inoculation/transfer, and genetics.


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: Carl Sagan]
    #14435064 - 05/11/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you cant fruit strate grain and get good results grain is spawn for bigger bulk subs such as coco coier and verm:2cents:


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: Carl Sagan]
    #14435068 - 05/11/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Sorry OP, forgot to address the colonization times.

MS inoculation of grains is 3-5 weeks + 2 weeks for bulk colonization & consolidation....That's around 6 weeks till introduced into fruitnig.

MS inoculation of BRF is 3-5 weeks...

If you want speed of colonization, you need to start doing isolations for that. You can clone a pin by taking your quickest/largest growing pin & picking it while it's still a pin & toss it on agar. Then iso from that.


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14435100 - 05/11/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Word, I guess I'll grow out the cakes and move on to bulk from there. Thanks for the great advice.


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: smurf_master]
    #14435109 - 05/11/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Word, I guess I'll grow out the cakes and move on to bulk from there. Thanks for the great advice.




:awethumb: I find it's easier to stretch a syringe w/ grains rather than w/ BRF. W/ Grains you can do G2G or GLCs both will extend the life of your syringe significantly, especially figuring you use 1 cc per quart jar & G2G that to 10...or 1 cc for a GLC & shoot that into a quart jar for 600mL of clean myc water solution.


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14435114 - 05/11/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

op start both if you got the scrilla then you have your cake and eat it too:tendshroom:

just click on my sig and read read read you got a pc so use it most noobs start with a pot and a stove you got a headstart


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14435155 - 05/11/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I find it's easier to stretch a syringe w/ grains rather than w/ BRF.




I was going to try and make each syringe stretch and do 12 .5 pint jars, is that pushing it?


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: smurf_master]
    #14435160 - 05/11/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I find it's easier to stretch a syringe w/ grains rather than w/ BRF.




I was going to try and make each syringe stretch and do 12 jars, is that pushing it?





assuming they r half pint brf no its not stretching it


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: punkrocker292004]
    #14435162 - 05/11/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Cool stuff, thanks


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: smurf_master]
    #14435192 - 05/11/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Cool stuff, thanks





no prob op let me know if you need any help i still recomend starting grain asap pf cakes dissapoint me on how much work they are to fruit and colonize and ect. buy a bag of bird seed and give it a go its a lil more tricky to get right but once you do its like riding a bike man easy peasy japanesy


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: punkrocker292004]
    #14435234 - 05/11/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Cool stuff, thanks





no prob op let me know if you need any help i still recomend starting grain asap pf cakes dissapoint me on how much work they are to fruit and colonize and ect. buy a bag of bird seed and give it a go its a lil more tricky to get right but once you do its like riding a bike man easy peasy japanesy




:whathesaid: I feel as though grains are a bit easier to get the moisture content right. Just follow RRs vid for grain prep for WBS or Rye, if using WBS, dump as soon as the water comes to a boil & continuously stir once the water is around 180.

However, per weight, BRF jars produce more mushrooms than bulk substrate. BRF is the more nutritious.


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Re: Grains in SGFC? [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14435514 - 05/11/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you could do half pint cakes and break those up if you want to attempt spawning to a bulk sub...check out damions 5050 coir tek for instructions on how to prepare a bulk sub except instead of spawning to a monotub use little ziploc tubs.



when i do cakes i always make a few extra to play around with.


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